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Old 05-11-2011, 11:57 PM   #10951
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how many posts does assani spend talking about how he thinks about basketball vs posts where he actually discusses basketball? i don't read tz much so maybe i'm wrong but it seems like the ratio is pretty crazy these days.
It seems like everyone has respect for Keith's opinion. Heres what he had to say:

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All said, Assani by himself has probably contributed more to this forum (and other 2+2 forums) than every non-maintenance modding action combined in the history of the internet.
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I became real-life friends with Assani in the first place 100% because of his posting on here, and the same is true with Bobbo.

Adding the FBG draft template might seem like an obvious negligible contribution now, but nobody else had done it, and I don't see who else would have. The scale of the exercises and the volume and thoroughness of debate they spawned is unrivaled across the entirety of 2+2 afaict, including spreading to multiple other forums, some of which have even banned Assani (or at least had for a time....I don't keep that up-to-date on these things) because they are run by morons.

To sum up his contributions as the FBG draft, biased football analysis (as if any of the rest of the self-aware lot here are above this), and a thread about Denver is silliness, and you're better than that. There is nobody on here, Bobbo excluded, who is willing to explore the depths of an argument anywhere near the level Assani will. That he is sometimes (or often, as happens when you post a lot) wrong is so completely irrelevant that I don't know what else to say. The fact that these aspects are so often seen as a negative on here is simply disappointing. Maybe the forum would be better if instead of worrying about modding meme overuse, our good veteran posters wouldn't stoke the flames with dismissive accusations of "bobbotarding" or "assanitrolling" when these guys go out of their way to post what comprises almost all of what's left of interesting, thought-provoking content in TZ these days.

His artful trolling is just icing.
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I think I estimate people's perception of them quite well, which is why I'm disappointed. If Boiling Oat Runner is causing someone to dismiss Assani's NBA posting, then I'm disappointed in them. If one thinks he or Bobbo are trolling when they post controversial statements that they may or may not believe, but think might be worth discussing in order to solidify their own understanding of a topic, same thing.

His words, not mine...take them for whatever you think they're worth. I personally don't think I'm particularly "good" at evaluating basketball; I think I'm good at being humble(yes I realize the irony in saying this) and objective and constantly questioning my own perceptions.


edit: LOL, swear I wrote that before I even saw your "humble" post above. But yeah I'm definitely arrogant in that I think I'm right a lot and I think my methodology is close to being 100% optimal, but I only feel comfortable doing that because I think that I start off with a very humble approach and don't think I can tell anything from "watching the games" or I'll instantly ask why I'm wrong when trusted authorities(such as Vegas pointspreads) disagree with me. I'm sure people think I say all these things because I'm an attention whore, and tbh that may be somewhat true. But I mainly say them because I really do think others would improve their own basketball evaluations if they took a similar approach. I swear I'm sincere in saying this.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:59 PM   #10952
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:02 AM   #10953
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Kevin love debate was one of the best discussions in tz, even though I didn't agree with either Bobbo or assani.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:10 AM   #10954
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It seems like everyone has respect for Keith's opinion. Heres what he had to say:

His words, not mine...take them for whatever you think they're worth. I personally don't think I'm particularly "good" at evaluating basketball; I think I'm good at being humble(yes I realize the irony in saying this) and objective and constantly questioning my own perceptions.


edit: LOL, swear I wrote that before I even saw your "humble" post above. But yeah I'm definitely arrogant in that I think I'm right a lot and I think my methodology is close to being 100% optimal, but I only feel comfortable doing that because I think that I start off with a very humble approach and don't think I can tell anything from "watching the games" or I'll instantly ask why I'm wrong when trusted authorities(such as Vegas pointspreads) disagree with me. I'm sure people think I say all these things because I'm an attention whore, and tbh that may be somewhat true. But I mainly say them because I really do think others would improve their own basketball evaluations if they took a similar approach. I swear I'm sincere in saying this.
sorry i don't read tz much so i dunno how good you are at thinking about basketball but i must say you have impressed me with your thinking about thinking about basketball skills itt
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:16 AM   #10955
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Kevin love debate was one of the best discussions in tz, even though I didn't agree with either Bobbo or assani.
agreed, i definitely enjoyed it. If someone wants to do a point-counterpoint debate on the issue, I'd be up for it. We could agree to be perfectly civil and willing to listen to each other beforehand. I'd probably use it for our site when we're done, but we could do it right on here so that everyone can read it here. First though we need to define our positions, as I constantly feel like people like Thayer misrepresent mine.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:24 AM   #10956
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Presented without comment: The Great Kevin Love Debate™
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:57 AM   #10957
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In case anyone here wants to LOL Oregon, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MUYjvCpWcQ

Then read this http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/in...rker_conf.html
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:59 AM   #10958
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In case anyone here wants to LOL Oregon State, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MUYjvCpWcQ

Then read this http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/in...rker_conf.html
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:00 AM   #10959
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I think the best part of that thread is nozecandy getting so tilted about me calling his team soft that he drafts Kim Jong-Il and Daniel Day Lewis
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:03 AM   #10960
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:04 AM   #10961
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I think the best part of that thread is nozecandy getting so tilted about me calling his team soft that he drafts Kim Jong-Il and Daniel Day Lewis
It's stuff like this that makes him an elite poster
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:22 AM   #10962
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Presented without comment: The Great Kevin Love Debate™
not knowing very much about the nba, i tried to read this argument, but i gave up because of the constant derails about whether or not various posters are trolling
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:32 AM   #10963
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I never read the debate in the draft thread, only the one in tz.
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:55 AM   #10964
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sorry i don't read tz much so i dunno how good you are at thinking about basketball but i must say you have impressed me with your thinking about thinking about basketball skills itt
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:54 AM   #10965
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I'm gonna clarify this as:

"Yes, we take history and will be a bit more quick to enforce trolling rules against long-term problem children than against posters with a much cleaner record. There will be judgment calls - no way around it, but we're gonna stop avoiding it and do a better job of trying to ensure there's at least some minimum standards, which we have let slide lately. Apologies in advance if you think it's unfair that history is taken into account, but that's the way it is. Hugs, Tu.q."
Understood. You might want to change the OP then for anyone who hasn't been keeping up with the recent drama...

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Too much time being wasted on all of the mods behalf on this nonsense, so it's now zero tolerance so there's no ambiguity and everyone gets treated the same. You've all been warned.
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:21 AM   #10966
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:13 AM   #10967
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I think the best part of that thread is nozecandy getting so tilted about me calling his team soft that he drafts Kim Jong-Il and Daniel Day Lewis
Yeah that's totally what happened. It wasn't me admitting I mailed the draft in and had a terrible team then started messing around. Not at all!
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:18 AM   #10968
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It took me a long time since he used to complain about us AFC East posters but I finally have realized that Tuq is the best mod, AINEC.
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:26 AM   #10969
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New rule

10. All complaining about mod actions must be confined to the FAQ. Whining about mod actions in regular threads detracts from everyone's enjoyment and isn't productive. Violation = temp ban at whatever level the poster is at.

I also deleted the Jetto Rule.
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:37 AM   #10970
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Understood. You might want to change the OP then for anyone who hasn't been keeping up with the recent drama...
Just.Stop.

Also, you bolded the wrong part imo. The "everyone gets treated the same" isn't true for the more vague trolling/leveling/sucking bans. Well, they're treated the same if they have the same history, but different with different history.
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:37 AM   #10971
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New rule

10. All complaining about mod actions must be confined to the FAQ. Whining about mod actions in regular threads detracts from everyone's enjoyment and isn't productive. Violation = temp ban at whatever level the poster is at.

I also deleted the Jetto Rule.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:10 PM   #10972
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Removing the Jetto rule shows promise for a better future from our forum posters.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:14 PM   #10973
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I also deleted the Jetto Rule.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:56 PM   #10974
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what was the jetto rule?
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:07 PM   #10975
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what was the jetto rule?
paraphrasing: "Say something obvious, get banned."
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