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07-16-2012 , 12:50 PM

#30851

Krayz

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Spoiler:

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07-16-2012 , 12:52 PM

#30852

Karak

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Spoiler:

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07-16-2012 , 12:54 PM

#30853

Krayz

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karak confirmed ghey positive

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07-16-2012 , 12:55 PM

#30854

Karak

ELIte

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i like

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07-16-2012 , 12:57 PM

#30855

Dids

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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich

what the ****.

Which part are you WTF-ing?

It's hard to get into my issues with the books without going way spoiler heavy.

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07-16-2012 , 12:58 PM

#30856

Krayz

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Dids, do you not like Martin's nipple fetish?

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07-16-2012 , 01:01 PM

#30857

KDebo

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen

paid $45 to watch the dark knight trilogy in imax thursday night

i am not ashamed of my decision

That's cool. Do they give you breaks in between each movie for bathroom and such? I figure they should, because they probably would make more money selling food and drink. Does it end so TDKR starts at midnight for you?

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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed

Will be seeing TDKR on Thursday as well. Early feedback from pre-screenings has me expecting three hours of the greatest thing ever.

Same here

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07-16-2012 , 01:03 PM

#30858

Shark Sandwich

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Originally Posted by Dids

Which part are you WTF-ing?

It's hard to get into my issues with the books without going way spoiler heavy.

Mainly the part about the show being better than the books and the books not being very good in general, not really sure how you can defend that without resorting to contrarian hipster tryhardism

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07-16-2012 , 01:12 PM

#30859

Dids

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Please, it's snobby elitism.

The shortest, least spoilery answer possible is that the books needed more editing badly- and the show has made a lot of those edits. Broadly the books sprawl and lack direction and focus. Specifically Martin is an overly and unnecessarily descriptive writer with the maturity and restraint of a 13 year old. (the first book is very good, but around 4-5 it's a damn mess).

Again, very entertaining, but also very flawed, especially the later books.

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07-16-2012 , 01:20 PM

#30860

sethypooh21

Make or Miss League

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ITT Dids attempts to mask his aesthetic judgments as technical critiques

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07-16-2012 , 01:23 PM

#30861

Shark Sandwich

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Originally Posted by Dids

Please, it's snobby elitism.

The shortest, least spoilery answer possible is that the books needed more editing badly- and the show has made a lot of those edits. Broadly the books sprawl and lack direction and focus. Specifically Martin is an overly and unnecessarily descriptive writer with the maturity and restraint of a 13 year old. (the first book is very good, but around 4-5 it's a damn mess).

Again, very entertaining, but also very flawed, especially the later books.

Green is probably true (though I liked 4-5 more than most), red is completely false and suggests to me that you don't like reading. His descriptions are great for building the world from the ground up, developing the characters, and creating a sense of pacing. Without that you're left with nonstop action and plotting, and a much less fulfilling experience overall. In other words, you're left with the show.

Last edited by Shark Sandwich; 07-16-2012 at 01:27 PM. Reason: still a very good show though

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07-16-2012 , 01:28 PM

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Dids

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I like reading fine- but there's nothing about getting into the specifics of every piece of somebody's armor that moves the story forward. I agree he's good at world building and character development, but he also gets lost in unnecessary details. When the plot just stops so somebody can describe everybody's outfit down to the armor nipples, that's not (to me) good storytelling.

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07-16-2012 , 01:38 PM

#30863

Karak

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Originally Posted by Dids

You've just described Melville and, more specifically, some of the chapters in Moby Dick.

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07-16-2012 , 02:05 PM

#30864

chim17

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Dids is just mad people have sex.

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07-16-2012 , 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Karak

You've just described Melville and, more specifically, some of the chapters in Moby Dick.

And Moby Dick, while a fantastic novel, is also famously dull at points.

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07-16-2012 , 02:07 PM

#30866

Karak

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Right.

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07-16-2012 , 02:13 PM

#30867

Phildo

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the books do get pretty crappy later in the series. hopefully the show can cut out a bunch of the filler but dids is acting like he's already seen seasons 3-5 and knows that they are significant improvements on the source material.

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07-16-2012 , 02:15 PM

#30868

Loretta8

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take it to the OOTV thread ladies

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07-16-2012 , 02:22 PM

#30869

Dids

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Originally Posted by Phildo

No, I think there have already been big improvements (the added emphasis on Tywin for instance, and a lot of the stuff they trimmed out) already. If you wanted to go back through the threads in OOTV you could find plenty of examples where I've pointed those out.

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07-16-2012 , 02:25 PM

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Noze

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Yeah the Tywin/Arya stuff was so, so good.

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07-16-2012 , 02:40 PM

#30871

Phildo

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Originally Posted by Loretta8

take it to the OOTV thread ladies

i find discussing super popular shows in ootv slightly less fun than slamming my dick in a car door.

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07-16-2012 , 02:47 PM

#30872

Anarchist

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why have you ever done that

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07-16-2012 , 03:07 PM

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Krayz

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I disagree about the books getting worse. They def get slower.

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07-16-2012 , 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Krayz

I disagree about the books getting worse. They def get slower.

When not going slow is one of the major things going for the series, that's a problem.

I thought book 1 was pretty good, books 2 and 3 were really enjoyable, and find 4 and 5 almost completely forgettable. Martin sure seems to be suffering from a bad case of Robert Jordan-itis in terms of the direction the series is going.