the whole notion seems ridiculous to me. a team that won't even pay a superstar above 120k is somehow ruining it. the increase in wages is a top down process. players use other players as yardsticks to measure what they think they are worth. whoever raises the bar the highest has the biggest impact. the fact that arsenal has some overpaid squad players does little to affect the overall market imo.

The fact that we can't find people to buy Denilson or Bendtner would seem clear evidence that teams aren't interested in buying our overpaid players (unless they are City).

i find it amazing that you TSC really give a **** and i find it hard to take that seriously, you pay no money towards the running of your club (apart from maybe a replica top). if someone like Hoopie (season ticket holder - long time investor in his club) held your views i could understand better.

your mock rage internet Michele Platini act does my head in tbh.

i'm almost certain your views would be wildly different if you were a Chelsea or City fan.

billionaires are dime a dozen, even Newcastle have one ffs.

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MW, yes it's City's turn now to have an effect on the cost of wages/transfers, but to say it is all their fault is wrong because lots of other clubs have pushed the boat out before them and lots will do it after them.

Good to know that in order to have an opinion on this matter one must be a season ticket holder. You one at Liverpool btw?

wat you talking about?

i happen to agree mostly with what Oski posted and what does it matter if i don't have Liverpool season ticket, i'm not the one who gives a **** what they do with the £££££££.

because i don't spend money on any club then i have no right to criticise how they want to spend their money, same applies for everyone imo.

marty i think your view that you can't criticize if you don't contribute some basically meaningless amount of money to the club is really ****ing stupid.

Oski spends little to nothing on the team as well, yet has a strong opinion on how the team spends money.

You want this both ways and its pretty hilarious.

usual TSC, ignore everything then change the subject.

Are you seriously unaware of what you did?

You post a long diabtribe from Oski about how its okay for City to spend what they want and how terrible Arsenals spending is.

We argue back and forth (mostly me loling at you)

Then you claim only season ticket holders, or those who spend a lot on the team, should be allowed to have strong opinions.

Its pointed out Oski spends little on the team, yet you think his opinion is important (BECAUSE YOU AGREE WITH IT, SHOCKING).

You then claim I change the subject.

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ok how does it effect you what the club does with it's money if you do not contribute?

i happen to think both your's and TSC's view that what City/Chelsea spends really matter to yourselves is really ****ing stupid.

just jealously, and like TSC your view would be different if you were a Chelsea/City fan.

you can have a vested interest in something even if it isn't monetary marty. wtf is the point of being a fan of anything at all for you? you make less than no sense sometimes.

and i haven't said anything about city really. just about you saying tsc isn't entitled to have even a thought.

yep you changed the subject onto whether Oski's opinion is relevant, when i thought we were gonna talk about City spending money and why you don't like it so much. silly me i guess expecting anything more from you.

tsc your opinion is clouded be jealously of City/Chelsea wealth, nothing more nothing less.

i'm sympathetic to the complaints but I dont really understand how the system can change to make it less "fair" short of some sort of NFL type revenue sharing
...I certainly don't blame clubs for spending money they have, i would be far more pissed as a fan of that club if they didn't spend that money


Its kind of similar to baseball in that small market teams like my royals have tiny 2-3 year windows to do anything then another 10 years of irrelevance, but I certainly dont blame the big market teams for spending money

You said my opinion doesn't matter and the entire discussion began with you posting someone else opinion who's financial impact on the team is the same as mine.

:facepalm:

well one thing is for sure, the solution is not easy and it would take some time since the sporting landscape in europe is completely different than in the US. You can't have one league instituting a salary cap and the other leagues not following along, that won't work.

But I think we all can look at the steps US sports leagues have made to improve parity and the business model for the league. Sports is big business, but its not capitalism. Teams need competition.

why care about the money when we can do nothing to affect what happens *with the money?

point of being a fan = to enjoy watching the football on the pitch, not to give a **** about other peoples money. (maybe i'm weird like this or just brought up differently but other peoples money has never really been a concern of mine - I DON'T CARE AND CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY ANYONE ELSE WOULD)

we're all entitled to our opinion (i admit that) and i've been told that my opinion basically supports the downfall of football (total bollocks from someone that hasn't a clue, yet he ignores and deflects rather than give a straight answer) because i like what City are doing.

i'll say it again, restrictions like FFP lead to no more Blackburn's, no more City's and no more Chelsea's winning/competing for titles.

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Well there we go, Bendtnah and eboue are shortly on their way out. Interesting quotes from Wenger about Nasri though. I had thought we would sell Cesc and keep Nasri, but maybe the opposite happens. One can't help but think Wenger has been playing Nasri in the center during the preseason to see if it would really work (it hasn't).

I'd be fine with this if we bought a CB and/or Mata. But even just a CB for Nasri would be fine for me.

you really are an ignoramous. yep i thought we were talking about City spending (again) yet you want to talk about Oski's opinion and why it is relevant.

ignore and deflect, good tactic TSC.

so it doesn't make sense to hope your club sign players you like and highly rate then i guess? cuz it doesn't matter what you hope for after all. and there is no point in wanting them to win, cuz you don't have any impact on the game being played.

caring about how the money is being spent is not the same as caring how the team does.

get this, i imagine the first thing Andy Carroll (£35m lol) was told when he joined Liverpool is to forget all about the transfer fee because that will not determine how successful he will be, same for every signing at every club the money is secondary (unless you are Arsenal).

Marty why are you Loling the Carroll price. Makes no sense.

I worry about how Liverpool spend their money, each penny spent is one less penny we cant spend somewhere else.

Successfully fried my head.

this quite simply cannot be real

I CANT UNDERSTAND YOUR CRAZYNESS.