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07-14-2011 , 03:15 PM

#4051

Langerdang

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Originally Posted by ChopSueyyy

unlike spurs, am i right?

Depends, are you talking about the first sentence or the second?

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07-14-2011 , 03:18 PM

#4052

ChopSueyyy

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well i quoted both

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07-14-2011 , 03:22 PM

#4053

Langerdang

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Well the first is exactly like Spurs, the second not so much.

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07-14-2011 , 03:29 PM

#4054

Franchise 60

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Nobody bit on Falcao for 30 million so I don't understand how is value is raised by raising the release clause.

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07-14-2011 , 03:36 PM

#4055

Langerdang

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How hard is it to understand that the minimum amount they can lose him for against their will has increased by 50% ?

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07-14-2011 , 03:40 PM

#4056

pablito_21

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fwiw Courtois definitely played great the whole season for Genk and basically won them the league with a couple of miraculous saves in the last 15 minutes of the last game of the season, a direct confrontation between Genk and Standard that determined the league winner.

I think it could well prove to be a great deal for Chelsea.

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07-14-2011 , 03:51 PM

#4057

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Originally Posted by Langerdang

How hard is it to understand that the minimum amount they can lose him for against their will has increased by 50% ?

his point is that at some point it becomes meaningless. for instance, hulk has an absurd buyout clause. i don't remember what it is exactly, but if they were to resign and raise it to 200m, it wouldn't mean a damn thing.

i think porto would still accept close to 30m for falcao now.

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07-14-2011 , 04:10 PM

#4058

silentbob

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<------ took Falcao in the last round of the 2p2 dynasty draft a year ago.

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07-14-2011 , 04:11 PM

#4059

cashy

we have welbeck

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Originally Posted by mw828

30 to 50mil is not meaningless tho

if falcao has an even better season this year some teams may be willing to offer 40-45mil for him
this is basically an insurance that falcao wont be able to be easily purchased under marketvalue

you would have a point if porto raised it from 70mil to 150mil or sth like that

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07-14-2011 , 04:21 PM

#4060

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Originally Posted by cashy

while this seems pretty reasonable, i don't really agree still. the main issue is, how can falcao really have a better year than last year? he ****ed **** up. also, he is at the point in age where value will be peaking and the extra year in age won't help his value any. i find the 40-45m price you mentioned to be a bit ridiculous. how many players from second rate leagues go for that much? would none be about right? that is ridic money and i don't think anyone would pay it for someone in the portuguese league.

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07-14-2011 , 04:30 PM

#4061

cashy

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carrol went for 35mil.
40mil for falcao isnt really that ridiculous in todays market

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07-14-2011 , 04:31 PM

#4062

Franchise 60

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Liverpool don't need anymore strikers though.

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07-14-2011 , 04:59 PM

#4063

ashley12

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Originally Posted by Franchise 60

Liverpool don't need anymore strikers though.

I would have said the same thing about Liverpool and midfielders when they bought Henderson.

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07-14-2011 , 05:44 PM

#4064

Blue Celery

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Originally Posted by Franchise 60

Liverpool don't need anymore strikers though.

too soon.

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07-14-2011 , 06:04 PM

#4065

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Originally Posted by mw828

i think porto would still accept close to 30m for falcao now.

Not a chance in hell. Porto sell high.

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07-14-2011 , 06:26 PM

#4066

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Originally Posted by mw828

i think porto would still accept close to 30m for falcao now.

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07-14-2011 , 06:31 PM

#4067

kevin21

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Apparently Villa have bid £10m for N'Zogbia. Waiting to hear back from Dave Whelan, I bet he talks to SSN first.

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07-14-2011 , 06:46 PM

#4068

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idk why you guys think a club like porto would definitely turn down 30m+ bids. obviously nobody has bid that so its pretty tough to know for sure, but apparently 30m is pocket change now and won't buy you ****. sure that would be like top 20 all time transfer value but its like PENNIES.

if i were them i might consider selling hulk if they could get a good price. i don't rate him as highly as falcao but past inquiries and reports have suggested that he is priced higher. could buy like 1000 prospects and hope to get a couple more falcao/hulks.

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07-14-2011 , 06:49 PM

#4069

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Originally Posted by mw828

the only way it would be considered at this point is if the release clause is met. who signs a new contract and leaves in the same summer besides homeless guys?

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07-14-2011 , 06:58 PM

#4070

mw828

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obviously its not like i think he is going to leave. this probably means that chelsea weren't interested and that he isn't interested in coming to a club like us or comparable. might as well take the pay rise if you are falcao.

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07-14-2011 , 07:08 PM

#4071

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Originally Posted by Langerdang

How hard is it to understand that the minimum amount they can lose him for against their will has increased by 50% ?

do you think that Porto will get someone to buy for 50M if he throws a hissy fit, publicly complains to the press, hands in a written transfer request, and makes a huge stink about only going to one club in particular?

I'd hardly say that a release clause is the "minimum" they would get for him. If he wants to leave, it will be hard to stop him from leaving. See Modric, Luka.

Edit: obviously I realize Modric doesn't have a release clause but I'm pretty sure Chelsea would still be stumping these 22M and 27M offers even if he did.

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07-14-2011 , 07:08 PM

#4072

mike4583

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Originally Posted by mw828

could buy like 1000 prospects and hope to get a couple more falcao/hulks.

0.2% yield on the investment, i like it, please tell me more.

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07-14-2011 , 07:17 PM

#4073

cashy

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Originally Posted by philipsaurus

portos bargaining power def got strengthened a lot by this tho
not only in regards to dealing with other clubs but also with falcao too

he now cant really make a huge stink, "you just signed a new improved deal dude with an included release clause of 50mil, if someone is willing to offer that for you we let you leave, if not stay and STFU"

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07-14-2011 , 07:26 PM

#4074

Badminton

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Arsene Wenger has hired a photoshop expert to change Bendtner's passport to English in order to sell him to Liverpool for £20 million.

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07-14-2011 , 07:45 PM

#4075

philipsaurus

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Originally Posted by cashy

good point wrt to shutting up Falcao, but these days, the players have too much power and I"m still not convinced that that line of reasoning will work if Falcao turns on Porto.

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