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11-27-2007 , 01:52 PM
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its sad how little wrong a black man has to do to be considered some sort of thug/gangster, etc. dude was from a middle class family and his dad is a police chief. he had one run in with someone who he thought had stolen his property and so many people are quick to think he must have brought it upon himself when he's gunned down in his own house
so friggin true. The ESPN column about Taylor "turning his life around" is a complete joke/insult.
I think there's a lot to this, but what of all of his teammates who talk a lot about how he had matured so much in the last few months? Wilbon made some comments in his chat yesterday that made it sound like he found this relatively unsurprising, and I think he's probably unlikely to write off misbehaving black athletes as thugs. It seems like trying to infer much of anything of his life from what the media says is difficult and unlikely to be correct.
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11-27-2007 , 01:53 PM
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also he spits on people!
disgusting behavior. Shame on you. No matter how you want to explain this line, you have to take into consideration the time and place to even make the comment.


I don't want to belabor this, but the "place" is the damn internet. To the best of my knowledge Taylor's family is not reading 2p2. To the best of my knowledge most everybody here only knows him from watching football. If you are reading the internet expecting nice and sensitive, you are painfully misguided.
Dids,

I think everyones point here was "hey, instead of saying something incredibly moronic, why not just like, not say something incredibly moronic?"
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11-27-2007 , 01:54 PM
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This makes me sick.

I have never really gotten upset about a 2+2 post before, but Dids you are so far out of line here its unbelievable. I think you should be permabanned for that comment.
Am I the only one who understands what Dids was trying to say here?
No.
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11-27-2007 , 01:56 PM
awful
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11-27-2007 , 01:57 PM
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also he spits on people!
disgusting behavior. Shame on you. No matter how you want to explain this line, you have to take into consideration the time and place to even make the comment.


I don't want to belabor this, but the "place" is the damn internet. To the best of my knowledge Taylor's family is not reading 2p2. To the best of my knowledge most everybody here only knows him from watching football. If you are reading the internet expecting nice and sensitive, you are painfully misguided.
Dids,

I think everyones point here was "hey, instead of saying something incredibly moronic, why not just like, not say something incredibly moronic?"
You'd be asking too much of him. The very justification of his action points to a complex that gets created when you live in an internet world where you get to apply "rules". This is his "world", and he's never wrong here. If he bans you he's right. If he deletes your post he's right. And then when he says something incredibly idiotic, he's right. Because it's just the internet, and he's got a mod cap on.
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11-27-2007 , 01:58 PM
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I wonder if Brian Mooreman was relieved or saddened when he heard this news. I expect a little of both.
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Of coarse he isn't actually relieved... but part of Taylor's legacy is going to be that he was one of the most feared defenders in the league. As a fan, that is how I will remember him and that is what I will miss. The thought of someone who was on the unfortunate end of one of his hits being a little relieved, in the back of their head, that it won't happen again makes me smile.
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11-27-2007 , 01:58 PM
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also he spits on people!
disgusting behavior. Shame on you. No matter how you want to explain this line, you have to take into consideration the time and place to even make the comment.


I don't want to belabor this, but the "place" is the damn internet. To the best of my knowledge Taylor's family is not reading 2p2. To the best of my knowledge most everybody here only knows him from watching football. If you are reading the internet expecting nice and sensitive, you are painfully misguided.
Dids,

I think everyones point here was "hey, instead of saying something incredibly moronic, why not just like, not say something incredibly moronic?"
You of all people should understand, the internet is no place to hold back one's inner moron.
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11-27-2007 , 01:59 PM
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also he spits on people!
disgusting behavior. Shame on you. No matter how you want to explain this line, you have to take into consideration the time and place to even make the comment.


I don't want to belabor this, but the "place" is the damn internet. To the best of my knowledge Taylor's family is not reading 2p2. To the best of my knowledge most everybody here only knows him from watching football. If you are reading the internet expecting nice and sensitive, you are painfully misguided.
Dids,

I think everyones point here was "hey, instead of saying something incredibly moronic, why not just like, not say something incredibly moronic?"
You of all people should understand, the internet is no place to hold back one's inner moron.
Oh don't worry, that's one thing we'll never accuse you of doing...
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11-27-2007 , 02:02 PM
hey everyone,

i started slamming dids in the bbv4l sean taylor thread, perhaps it should be moved there
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11-27-2007 , 02:09 PM
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hey everyone,

i started slamming dids in the bbv4l sean taylor thread, perhaps it should be moved there
I think your posts are being deleted. Which if course is no surprise. What happened to the internet being a place for one's inner moron ? Oh right that only applies when a mod wants to say something ridiculous. Got it.
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11-27-2007 , 02:14 PM
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also he spits on people!
disgusting behavior. Shame on you. No matter how you want to explain this line, you have to take into consideration the time and place to even make the comment.


I don't want to belabor this, but the "place" is the damn internet. To the best of my knowledge Taylor's family is not reading 2p2. To the best of my knowledge most everybody here only knows him from watching football. If you are reading the internet expecting nice and sensitive, you are painfully misguided.
Dids,

I think everyones point here was "hey, instead of saying something incredibly moronic, why not just like, not say something incredibly moronic?"
You'd be asking too much of him. The very justification of his action points to a complex that gets created when you live in an internet world where you get to apply "rules". This is his "world", and he's never wrong here. If he bans you he's right. If he deletes your post he's right. And then when he says something incredibly idiotic, he's right. Because it's just the internet, and he's got a mod cap on.
Rafiki: More ridiculous than Dids!
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11-27-2007 , 02:17 PM
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its sad how little wrong a black man has to do to be considered some sort of thug/gangster, etc. dude was from a middle class family and his dad is a police chief. he had one run in with someone who he thought had stolen his property and so many people are quick to think he must have brought it upon himself when he's gunned down in his own house



so friggin true. The ESPN column about Taylor "turning his life around" is a complete joke/insult.

I think any athlete, rather white or black, is going to get this treatment after being fined multiple times and having run ins with people with loaded weapons, DUIs, and the like.

His own (black) teammates talked about how he had "grown up" while he was in surgery which implies he had some growing up to do.

Sean Taylor clearly did not have a sparkling reputation, regardless of where he came from.

Playing the race card is pretty weak.

It sucks that he died though, I don't think anyone is arguing with that.
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11-27-2007 , 02:18 PM
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just terrible and tragic

RIP, Redskins fans will always <3 you
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11-27-2007 , 02:19 PM
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hey everyone,

i started slamming dids in the bbv4l sean taylor thread, perhaps it should be moved there
I think your posts are being deleted. Which if course is no surprise. What happened to the internet being a place for one's inner moron ? Oh right that only applies when a mod wants to say something ridiculous. Got it.
Dude,

I don't mod sports, and I'm pretty sure the folks that do would have no problem deleting my posts if they thought they were delete worthy. The fact that I'm a mod has nothing to do with my posts in this thread. If I wasn't a mod, I would have behaved the same, and would have been shocked if I was banned. I know it makes your inner Mrs. Reverand Lovejoy cry when you see a mod post mean things, but you should let this aspect of the argument go.

FWIW- I haven't touched anything in BBV4L.
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11-27-2007 , 02:22 PM
RIP 21
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11-27-2007 , 02:26 PM
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This makes me sick.

I have never really gotten upset about a 2+2 post before, but Dids you are so far out of line here its unbelievable. I think you should be permabanned for that comment.
Am I the only one who understands what Dids was trying to say here?
No.
You guys are making way too much of this. Dids isn't helping his own case very well - who cares if it's the Internet, that's the lamest way to contextualize something - but he was right - Sean Taylor did a little people-spitting in his time. Should be a completely throwaway observation but for the man dying shortly after Dids made it. Just unfortunate timing. If people were a little less reactionary, or Dids was a little less proud, it wouldn't be anything.
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11-27-2007 , 02:27 PM
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hey everyone,

i started slamming dids in the bbv4l sean taylor thread, perhaps it should be moved there
I think your posts are being deleted. Which if course is no surprise. What happened to the internet being a place for one's inner moron ? Oh right that only applies when a mod wants to say something ridiculous. Got it.
If I wasn't a mod, I would have behaved the same
On this I think we're both perfectly clear. Your clear lack of class clearly stems from events that predate 2p2. But yes I'm prepared to forget this, I've said all I want to say on this matter.
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11-27-2007 , 02:36 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that almost all 21 year olds have some growing up to do...
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11-27-2007 , 02:38 PM
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11-27-2007 , 02:38 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that almost all 21 year olds have some growing up to do...
Wow I am a heartless bastard, this is a sick joke setup.

Disclaimer: you guys can make all the jokes about me you want when I'm dead, I'm positive I wont care.
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11-27-2007 , 02:40 PM
Seriously just when I thought the Redskins couldn't run any worse. Taylor was my 2nd fav player in the NFL (<3 Chris Cooley) and was the heart of the Skins defense. Crushing blow to the organization. Dude was a top 3 safety and was 24, definitely could have ended his career as the greatest safety ever. RIP, I will be wearing my jersey proudly today despite it being a Tuesday.
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11-27-2007 , 02:48 PM
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Seriously just when I thought the Redskins couldn't run any worse.
Huh?
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11-27-2007 , 03:17 PM
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or Dids was a little less proud, it wouldn't be anything.
I mean the thing here is its just this cycle of dids doing something moronic, a bunch of people say its moronic, then he calls ALL of those people stupid/whatever else he feels like using in an attempt to completely deflect the blame. Then he goes "oh man, remember that time you did something moronic? that totally precludes you from calling the moronic thing i just said exactly what it is". The fact that he acts like this every single time he does something stupid is just like "ugh i give up, jesus christ get some [censored] self awareness".
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11-27-2007 , 03:17 PM
Does every thread on 2p2 have to be derailed by complete and total idiocy?
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11-27-2007 , 03:23 PM
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or Dids was a little less proud, it wouldn't be anything.
I mean the thing here is its just this cycle of dids doing something moronic, a bunch of people say its moronic, then he calls ALL of those people stupid/whatever else he feels like using in an attempt to completely deflect the blame. Then he goes "oh man, remember that time you did something moronic? that totally precludes you from calling the moronic thing i just said exactly what it is". The fact that he acts like this every single time he does something stupid is just like "ugh i give up, jesus christ get some [censored] self awareness".
RJ,

What specifically do you think was "stupid". I can see why people thought what I said was insenstivie, but there's hardly anything stupid about it. It wasn't like I was shocked by the reaction I got or anything.

You should consider what words actually mean before you use them.
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