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11-19-2016 , 02:31 PM

#22851

Larry Legend

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An overly optimistic take would be that he used the things from years ago to rise to prominence and now that he is a VP he's no longer required to do whatever it takes to get himself known.

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11-19-2016 , 02:47 PM

#22852

vhawk01

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

One challenge I do see with the MillennialGOAT generation is an overly "It's all relative" viewpoint that is theoretically attractive but does deny certain truths in an effort to not invalidate the views of others.

It's one of their few redeeming qualities. Are you suggesting what the world needs is more absolutism?

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11-19-2016 , 02:59 PM

#22853

cannabusto

Pooh-Bah

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2 things.

1. As people move to cities more and more, the left will continue to win the culture wars going forward. More people knowing people who aren't exactly like them is a true driver of change on cultural and social issues.

2. Yes, pot is not a primary issue. But it isn't simply "lol I wanna get stoned legally, lol." It's also about civil liberties and rejecting the overbearing authoritarianism that has plauged a lot of American politics for decades.

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11-19-2016 , 03:23 PM

#22854

Montecore

RPElf = +EV

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82,384

Guys, as an Indiana resident and someone that's lived through PEAK PENCE:

He believes it. It's not an act. He really is this dumb.

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11-19-2016 , 03:28 PM

#22855

heh

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,270

https://www.wired.com/2016/11/facebo...just-fake-news

Guess it's not super surprising for anyone, but still a good little read.

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11-19-2016 , 03:32 PM

#22856

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Read "The Closing of the American Mind" by Allan Bloom. Covers this exact problem.

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11-19-2016 , 03:41 PM

#22857

schu_22

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Glad to see everyone still applying ******ed broad strokes to #millenials

That's the good discourse

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11-19-2016 , 03:53 PM

#22858

diskoteque

Joey Local

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 30,420

Consistent with the rampant disgusting ageism itt

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11-19-2016 , 04:28 PM

#22859

heh

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No idea whether this is impactful or not, but I enjoyed reading it.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-moscow-214283

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11-19-2016 , 04:46 PM

#22860

ClarkNasty

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Originally Posted by vhawk01

It's one of their few redeeming qualities. Are you suggesting what the world needs is more absolutism?

Unconditional relativism denies reality

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11-19-2016 , 04:48 PM

#22861

PocketChads

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Unconditional relativism denies reality

Is that an absolute?

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11-19-2016 , 05:35 PM

#22862

vhawk01

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Unconditional relativism denies reality

That's one weird ass adjective in that sentence. Elaborate.

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11-19-2016 , 05:38 PM

#22863

vhawk01

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Read "The Closing of the American Mind" by Allan Bloom. Covers this exact problem.

I haven't read it but I will say that the moral relativism that Clark is worried about isn't really relativism at all. It's moral absolutism where the only moral absolute is freedom. It seems like relativism because as long as we aim towards freedom all is permitted but there is no space for the questioning of the absolute value of freedom.

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11-19-2016 , 05:49 PM

#22864

sportsjefe

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Read "The Closing of the American Mind" by Allan Bloom. Covers this exact problem.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for everything."

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11-19-2016 , 05:51 PM

#22865

Heroball

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Unconditional relativism denies reality

It's part and parcel of the everyone gets a trophy conceit and the notion that no opinion is any better or worse than any other opinion despite the evidence or support for said opinion.

Moral absolutism and relativism both generally do more harm than good, and both suffer from the limited introspection possible when there's only one right answer to every question or no wrong answer to any question. Both positions are patently unscientific.

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11-19-2016 , 05:57 PM

#22866

ClarkNasty

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Let me give an example:

Someone once argued to the hilt that if someone claimed racism didn't exist in the world they weren't wrong and couldn't be wrong.

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11-19-2016 , 05:58 PM

#22867

ClarkNasty

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To be clear, this person is a super lefty activist.

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11-19-2016 , 06:47 PM

#22868

sportsjefe

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Originally Posted by PocketChads

This happened?

CNN exit poll, Whites 18-29 go to Trump, 48-43.

http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls

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11-19-2016 , 07:26 PM

#22869

PocketChads

guaranteed 42-10 finish

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Originally Posted by sportsjefe

CNN exit poll, Whites 18-29 go to Trump, 48-43.

http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls

Jesus

Optimism circling the drain

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11-19-2016 , 07:55 PM

#22870

SirOsis

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LOL Canada has dumb stuff going on in their government too

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11-19-2016 , 08:01 PM

#22871

DodgerIrish

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,241

Wow was that a generational back and forth.

"Are you serious? Like seriously Mr Speaker?"

She is one stiff actress too.

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11-19-2016 , 08:04 PM

#22872

El Rata

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F-A-R-T

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11-19-2016 , 08:08 PM

#22873

SirOsis

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DECORUM IS IMPORTANT AND I REMIND THOSE WHO ARE HECKLING ME

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11-19-2016 , 08:20 PM

#22874

HUstylez

RIP HUNL Champ

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 13,806

surprised fart bypasses the forum swearing filter tbh

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11-19-2016 , 11:16 PM

#22875

Namath12

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Originally Posted by da_fume

Lol what risk, now the news cycle is that some people booed and not the fraud settlement.

yup

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