The whole political process (trying to score one-liners in debates, personal attacks in ads, god knows what else behind the scenes etc) has always seemed pretty dumb to me considering how powerful some of these people end up being.

I don't know, if Donald Trump can bully Jeb Bush into killing himself before the primaries, just imagine what he'll be able to do as president.

Jeb bush is the hilary of GOP. Bought establishment and completely pathetic. Christie also.

I had hopes for Rubio but he might be going down that path also.

The person who most resembles Bernie in terms of seems to believe what hes saying and record backs it up is cruz. But jus happens to be bat****. I really don't mind tea party politics on a lot of economic and foreign affairs issues but holy god the things they say and believe in regard to basic humanity. Altho i have doubts that anyone but bernie cares a lick about americans. Cruz just says it a lot.

I sometimes wonder how we would view trump in four years if he was president. If I had to guess it would be a disaster but I also wonder if we would even consider him conservative or liberal anymore. I think he would make so many wacky decisions that would be considered liberal politics one day and conservative the next. he would isolate all possible party support probably, not that he really has any now

Rubio seems like one of the worst actual people running. Not only is he totally bought, but he's enough of a scumbag/sociopath to really push his purchased agendas with conviction. Jeb seems like too good of human being to do that, which is why he's drawing dead.

I think Rubio is towards, if not #1 at the top of the list of candidates who would most negatively impact the lives of the American people.

I still think Bernie can pull it off, but I've come around to gambling on Trump over anyone else. At least if Trump crashes and burns it could yield future positive change. Someone like Rubio or Hilary would just brutalize the country without any upside.

maybe you have trouble understanding things, but what he "knew" was wrong which is not a good thing. Its kinda like when Bush "knew" about all those WMDs. Being wrong about simple facts like this is not a good thing. You shouldn't have "no idea" or "never [have] any conversation" about these things. The fact that they never even conversed about it seems bad considering they missed some key facts.

If you are the President and you don't get important information or the information you get is wrong then that is a major issue.

CDL, you're wanting so hard right now.

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/in...gn_we_did.html

But some local campaign organizer not being informed about another conference occurring in the same building. Clearly this leads to a similar situation as GWB and WMDs.

I would vote CDL for prez in a heartbeat

a ****ed chicken in every pot

CDL4PREZ

I don't want your endorsement

Isn't this much more descriptive of HC than anyone else?

This is a woman who used 9/11 to deflect/defend Wall Street ties and is almost unabashedly tied at the tip to leaders at Morgan Stanley, Goldman Saches, and JPMorgan Chase, who call her a 'problem solver'.

I'm aware that everyone places different importance and priority on different issues and for some, Clinton is simply good enough because of her social platform.

However, there's a distinct chance that Hilary not only doesn't prevent, but enables the big banks who not even a decade ago almost completely tanked the US economy and cost millions of people jobs and their entire life savings. Just watch The Big Short and then realize the 'bad guys' are the ones making sure Hilary has more to spend on a presidential campaign than maybe anyone ever.

Could just be totally devastating.

I think Hillary is just about as bad as them. The only reason I'd prefer her over Rubio/Cruz is that being completely owned by big banks isn't as bad as being in the pocket of horrifying religious fanatics and racists.

Basically hillary might accidentally do some good things even if they're for the wrong reasons but Rubio and Cruz would be incapable of that.

cruz's wife is a vice president at goldman sachs

I dislike Cruz as much as the next person, but trotting this out there like it is some high powered job is about as dishonest as anything people say in this election. There are over 10,000 Vice Presidents at GS. All you are saying by conveying that is that someone has either worked 4-6 years in finance or 2+ years post-MBA in finance and now works at (one of) the most prestigious and well respected bank. If we want to discount everyone who has family members working in finance that seems a little overboard.

lol

can't imagine why such an efficient outfit would ever need bailing out

that's worse than Teldar Paper ffs

Yeah I think I'm a VP at my company and I'm not even sure. It's kind of a running joke in this industry.

you clearly have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a VP does or is. It is pretty junior level and is usually obtained 4-6 years into a career.

In finance titles are generally analyst-->associate-->VP-->senior VP/Principal (sometimes firms have both)-->MD-->Partner-->Regional Head of whatever (usually still a Partner/MD title with this conveying specific role and may have some MDs/Partners reporting to them)-->Global Head of whatever-->C-Suite

At smaller firms some or many of these titles may not exist, but the fact of the matter is that a VP usually has 4-12 years experience. If you have more than that you probably aren't great at your job or moving up ever. If you have less experience than that then you've probably moved up quickly and/or work in a small firm.

Yea, aren't like 90% of finance employees VPs?

Being a VP at GS is like being an engineer at Google. It is cool and all, but if Google started doing some super evil thing in some random corner of the company, you aren't going to blame the engineers you know that work there.

NYDN just killing it with their recent covers

I still can't imagine myself voting based on something other than

1. Can't allow any Republican candidate to nominate the 1-4 Supreme Court justices that will come up during this next term

2. I want veto power over republicans and even if I don't like the democratic candidate's policy most won't ever get through congress anyways. AKA gridlock >>>> tea party stuff

Literally zero other issues matter to me in reality because those two overwhelm anything else.

you have a solid point there

Why?

I know people make a lot of jokes about banks and how many Vice Presidents they have, but I kind of wish the executive branch worked the same way. Imagine how awesome the State of the Union would be if Obama had an army of serious looking white guys behind him staring at the camera.

B Vice President at Goldman is a low level position

Edit Sorry just realized everyone pointed this already