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07-08-2016 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
That's true for basically anything that has a super high demand. Nor is it especially relevant to how the INTERWEBS make it suddenly worse. Sounds like the pro-UIGEA nonsense really to me.
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07-08-2016 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
That's true for basically anything that has a super high demand. Nor is it especially relevant to how the INTERWEBS make it suddenly worse. Sounds like the pro-UIGEA nonsense really to me.
In what world was I advocating an Internet ban or even saying the internet makes getting guns easy
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07-08-2016 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
In what world was I advocating an Internet ban or even saying the internet makes getting guns easy
Well... that is the discussion that's been going on here PC. It's kind of weird to jump in just to say something as obvious as 'if people want something in demand they'll be able to get it'
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07-08-2016 , 10:31 PM
Who cares about the Internet or Amazon like?

You can go to any gun show and people in line will sell you a gun unless you look like a terrorist in their eyes

So if you are a foreigner that looks like a terrorist, maybe it's not so simple

But otherwise it's extremely simple to buy guns at gun shows as a foreigner or felon or anyone else that wants one and gets by the "guy in line's gut feeling about me" background check
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07-08-2016 , 10:33 PM
I should have put it in quotes, I guess.

There's a disconnect between "lol good luck you're not going to get a gun" and "people will get what they want regardless of legality"
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07-08-2016 , 10:39 PM
Trump made a video response to the killings, not sure how to link it except by linking r/the_donald

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...ca_safe_again/
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07-08-2016 , 10:44 PM
looks like hes dbling down on star of david stuff

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07-09-2016 , 12:43 AM
Donald Trump is gonna make a lot of money selling self-help books and doomsday prep kits
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07-09-2016 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
All lives don't matter until black lives matter, so if you answer "black lives matter!" with "all lives matter!" you don't actually think black lives matter.


don't mind me, just here to LOL at this post.
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07-09-2016 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
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Gun nuts often respond by suggesting that if more people had guns then they could be used against shooters, yet in this case the shooter was actively targeting people who had guns on them and had to be taken out by a robot
Had to be taken out by a robot? He was taken out by the guys with the guns. It's not like all their guns were totally ineffective and he just kept killing people until Johnny number five swooped in and saved the day. Guys with guns prevented this from being a worse tragedy. It wasn't civilians with guns so maybe just stock with that.
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07-09-2016 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
I should have put it in quotes, I guess.

There's a disconnect between "lol good luck you're not going to get a gun" and "people will get what they want regardless of legality"
You'll find me saying precisely not what you quoted. I said it wouldn't be easy and the Internet didn't make it easy
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07-09-2016 , 08:49 AM
Ikes just ignoring how easy It is to buy guns in the line to get into a gun show

The only background check being the seller's "gut feeling about you and your accent" is not a hard barrier to cross, especially when there are lots of sellers in the line and lots of gun shows each week

Swing by Bass Pro Shops for a new wardrobe ahead of time and the "background check" gets even easier to pass
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07-09-2016 , 09:07 AM
Can there ever be an actual moderate politician anymore? Can we ever get to the point again where "hey, i want x and you want y, but we can agree on z, which gives us both something"?

Can there ever be a win-win situation again in politics? Or have we gone too far down the rabbit hole, and there must always be a winner and a loser?

Just really sad right now.
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07-09-2016 , 09:13 AM
chillary is extremely moderate and centrist. she gets the left and right wings equally rustled, that's quite the accomplishment!
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07-09-2016 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Ikes just ignoring how easy It is to buy guns in the line to get into a gun show

The only background check being the seller's "gut feeling about you and your accent" is not a hard barrier to cross, especially when there are lots of sellers in the line and lots of gun shows each week

Swing by Bass Pro Shops for a new wardrobe ahead of time and the "background check" gets even easier to pass
What exactly is the point here though? I could probably buy weed in that line too. And I could probably fairly easily find a "line" somewhere where I could buy crack, or kiddie porn, or whatever. Is your thought that we need to crack down on these gun shows....so that the "line" goes somewhere else? Or are you just saying "prohibition is super sweet guys not sure why we've never tried it before, if you dont like something, just make it illegal!"

Won't there ALWAYS be an "easiest place" for foreigners to buy guns (lol also not sure why the **** we care about foreigners buying guns)? That it might currently be gun shows seems hardly any argument at all against gun shows.
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07-09-2016 , 11:42 AM
To be fair, the people peddling crack and kiddie porn don't usually get to advertise on the local radio station for weeks which Knights of Columbus hall they rented out next Saturday so you can get your fix.
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07-09-2016 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
To be fair, the people peddling crack and kiddie porn don't usually get to advertise on the local radio station for weeks which Knights of Columbus hall they rented out next Saturday so you can get your fix.
Good point, if we just outlawed those radio commercials....
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07-09-2016 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
Good point, if we just outlawed those radio commercials....

Yeah, that was obviously the point.

Clearly eliminating the gun show loopholes would in act make it harder to obtain guns. Not impossible no, but impossible is a stupid standard. I mean, "people will just always get crack, why don't they just sell it at Walgreens next to the foot powder" is not really a clever argument, notwithstanding that it would be hilarious to see someone try to get high on Tinactin.
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07-09-2016 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bowens
Can there ever be an actual moderate politician anymore? Can we ever get to the point again where "hey, i want x and you want y, but we can agree on z, which gives us both something"?

Can there ever be a win-win situation again in politics? Or have we gone too far down the rabbit hole, and there must always be a winner and a loser?

Just really sad right now.
elected democrats are extremely moderate (Sanders aside) rn in the grand scheme of things. The Rs have just swung so far right it doesn't seem that way.
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07-09-2016 , 12:48 PM
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07-09-2016 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
Yeah, that was obviously the point.

Clearly eliminating the gun show loopholes would in act make it harder to obtain guns. Not impossible no, but impossible is a stupid standard. I mean, "people will just always get crack, why don't they just sell it at Walgreens next to the foot powder" is not really a clever argument, notwithstanding that it would be hilarious to see someone try to get high on Tinactin.
Gun shows don't contribute to crime in any significant way
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07-09-2016 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
Had to be taken out by a robot? He was taken out by the guys with the guns. It's not like all their guns were totally ineffective and he just kept killing people until Johnny number five swooped in and saved the day. Guys with guns prevented this from being a worse tragedy. It wasn't civilians with guns so maybe just stock with that.
And they gave the exploding robot a ride there!
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07-09-2016 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
rofl,

24+ hours since a nartional tragedy wooooo USA
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07-09-2016 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
What exactly is the point here though? I could probably buy weed in that line too. And I could probably fairly easily find a "line" somewhere where I could buy crack, or kiddie porn, or whatever. Is your thought that we need to crack down on these gun shows....so that the "line" goes somewhere else? Or are you just saying "prohibition is super sweet guys not sure why we've never tried it before, if you dont like something, just make it illegal!"

Won't there ALWAYS be an "easiest place" for foreigners to buy guns (lol also not sure why the **** we care about foreigners buying guns)? That it might currently be gun shows seems hardly any argument at all against gun shows.

My point is that someone asks about foreigners getting guns and someone else said it's easy at gun shows and Ikes posted that it wasn't

My point is that it is

That's all; I'm not taking about cracking down or anything other than his inaccurate post
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07-09-2016 , 02:11 PM
Typical gun crazy response:

Suggest any type of change whatsoever, no matter how mild ----> get accused of wanting to take all guns and make them illegal to possess.
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