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06-24-2016 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
We need a Greear presidency
he carries a big stick
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06-24-2016 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
My mother suddenly started having political emails relegated to Spam too. From the Australian Greens.

lol shane, in other words.
I'd reply but this post seems to have been censored with the approval of the Australian government.
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06-24-2016 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
I think really what the gun thing boils down to liberals tend to look at things as a collective and gun rights come down to the individual.
I think there's also an issue with how you view freedom: That is to say, is freedom merely "freedom to" do/have things, or is it also "freedom from" certain things? Like, to me, the freedom to own an assault weapon does not outrank the freedom to not have to worry about being killed by one.

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Drumpf not planning to meet with foreign leaders is the cutest headline ever like a single foreign leader would give him the time of day
I dunno, what about the guys who praise him to troll America, like Putin and Kim Jong-Un?

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Originally Posted by shane88888
God bless you Baids. Always wrong but never in doubt.
Wonders never cease.

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Originally Posted by Biesterfield
What's a good over/under to set for the Libertarian's popular vote? 5.0%?
Gary Johnson was polling at 10% not long ago, so I suspect it'll be slightly higher than your guess. I think what the Republicans actually do matters a lot: His numbers will go down if they dump Trump and pick one of those Purity of Serious Conservatism doorknobs that run the party now.

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Originally Posted by SirOsis
Don't forget Grant. As far as I can tell from historical accounts his days in the White House consisted of world-class drinking ... and that's it, there's no more to that sentence.
As I understand it, that impression of Grant is largely the product of Southern propaganda.
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06-24-2016 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
I think there's also an issue with how you view freedom: That is to say, is freedom merely "freedom to" do/have things, or is it also "freedom from" certain things? Like, to me, the freedom to own an assault weapon does not outrank the freedom to not have to worry about being killed by one.
but ...
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06-24-2016 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by shane88888
I've watched Brit Parliament on CSPAN since college. Blair was a wizard on the counterattack.

Such a cucky country yet they conduct governmental business talking the finest trash known to exist outside of New Jersey.
It's a country of paradoxes. Every Brit we think of is cucky, but they slammed their big dick into anything that moved, for centuries

Maybe 0.04% of cuckolds just become cuckolds once they're bored with literally every kind of rapey domination
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06-24-2016 , 09:06 PM
Lol at Shane saying Google is putting Trump's emails in spam on purpose to censor him
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06-24-2016 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Lol at Shane saying Google is putting Trump's emails in spam on purpose to censor him
Trump supporters are a paranoid bunch.
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06-24-2016 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
but ...
But what? I'm not going to guess your counterargument or make it for you.
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Lol at Shane saying Google is putting Trump's emails in spam on purpose to censor him
Hey, if the Netflix customer service guy can read our thoughts, anything is possible.
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06-24-2016 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Lol at Shane saying Google is putting Trump's emails in spam on purpose to censor him
That's way down the list of things to lol @him for the past few months
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06-24-2016 , 09:27 PM
Like when he says "false song" that isn't a typical phrase or am I crazy. Like with no quarrel about the idea, I'm just interested in the word choice here

He and Sando have been using some vocab lately that almost has me curious enough to Google and see who they've been reading these days
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06-24-2016 , 09:28 PM
Nath,

Freedom from death will eventually be an Amendment, but the science just isn't there yet.
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06-24-2016 , 09:33 PM
What do we think the next amendment will be, and o/u time length till it happens

Or will there be no more amendments before the Constitution is moot
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06-24-2016 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
But what? I'm not going to guess your counterargument or make it for you.
3 things off the top of my head:

1) It's pie in the sky. It's a fait accompli that there will be some guns around. Meaning there will be some of basically every kind of gun. So there is always going to be a non-zero chance of you being killed by it.

Ergo, you will never have the freedom you want.

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Originally Posted by nath
I think there's also an issue with how you view freedom: That is to say, is freedom merely "freedom to" do/have things, or is it also "freedom from" certain things? Like, to me, the freedom to own an assault weapon does not outrank the freedom to not have to worry about being killed by one.
You don't currently have the freedom to not worry about a plane falling on you.

2) Because of that, it's the other side of the same coin you're talking about. A different tact. They have paranoia of things happening to them and so they want theirs.

3) Even if you acknowledge that it's not readily pragmatic but can envision a day after you're gone or you're best days are far behind you. I mean guns aren't going away anytime soon (remember you're countering me talking about overall gun ownership - not exclusively assault rifles) so you'd be mainly worried about mankind in general. The future. The collective.
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06-24-2016 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
Like when he says "false song" that isn't a typical phrase or am I crazy. Like with no quarrel about the idea, I'm just interested in the word choice here

He and Sando have been using some vocab lately that almost has me curious enough to Google and see who they've been reading these days
False song of globalism is one of the many high water marks of recent Trump speeches.

Definitely don't watch that one.
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06-24-2016 , 09:44 PM
Also don't look up (assualt murder automatic machine weapon) rifle homicide stats.

They're triggering.
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06-24-2016 , 09:46 PM
I stopped reading his speeches because it's too easy to debunk them line by line

But maybe I should start again; globalism is at least a concept capable of being nebulous enough that he could say things you can't prove or disprove
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06-24-2016 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by shane88888
Also don't look up (assualt murder automatic machine weapon) rifle homicide stats.

They're triggering.
I'm not sure which way they're supposed to be triggering, to be honest

Not sure what I've said about gun control, and definitely know I've never said triggering with a straight face, so I'm going to have to guess you're addressing the thread

Even still, I'm not sure what we are supposed to conclude: are you talking about things people would (mistakenly! And you couldn't possibly capture their meaning when writing a law) call assault rifles, or are you thinking people don't understand how overwhelming it is that rifles (in the most general possible sense of the word rifle) are used for display, then far below that hunting, before anything else?
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06-24-2016 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
What do we think the next amendment will be, and o/u time length till it happens

Or will there be no more amendments before the Constitution is moot
Marriage to service animals
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06-24-2016 , 09:59 PM
Dammit Thayer you gotta put a trigger warning at the top of that poast
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06-24-2016 , 10:13 PM
seems like assault weapons aren't really the problem - just an easy target because you need one to really commit a massacre (super rare overall and drop in the ocean of gun deaths relatively). doesn't seem like banning them will make much of a dent in the overall issue of gun-related homicides?

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06-24-2016 , 10:13 PM
Probably getting rid of the second amendment or term limits. Can't think of anything actually close.
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06-24-2016 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
I'm not sure which way they're supposed to be triggering, to be honest

Not sure what I've said about gun control, and definitely know I've never said triggering with a straight face, so I'm going to have to guess you're addressing the thread

Even still, I'm not sure what we are supposed to conclude: are you talking about things people would (mistakenly! And you couldn't possibly capture their meaning when writing a law) call assault rifles, or are you thinking people don't understand how overwhelming it is that rifles (in the most general possible sense of the word rifle) are used for display, then far below that hunting, before anything else?
Rifles are used in an amazingly low number of homicides. Generously, 300 to 500 per year.

Hammers/clubs are more frequently used in murders than rifles. Bare hands are used about twice as often as rifles.

Yet there are millions of AR-15s in circulation.

"Gun deaths" are mostly suicides. Then most of the rest are ghetto drug/gang handgun violence. Then there's the thin slices of the pie chart.
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06-24-2016 , 10:16 PM
Well, you used to could cause a massacre with explosives, but there's no National TNT Association and for whatever reason you can't just get explosives by breaking the law
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06-24-2016 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shane88888
Rifles are used in an amazingly low number of homicides. Generously, 300 to 500 per year.

Hammers/clubs are more frequently used in murders than rifles. Bare hands are used about twice as often as rifles.

Yet there are millions of AR-15s in circulation.

"Gun deaths" are mostly suicides. Then most of the rest are ghetto drug/gang handgun violence. Then there's the thin slices of the pie chart.
I mean, I know that and have intimated as such in this thread unless I'm crazy

I think most people itt know and understand well everything in your poast here
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06-24-2016 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Lol at Shane saying Google is putting Trump's emails in spam on purpose to censor him
I have no arguments against Twitter suppressing tags, Facebook manipulating feeds, or Google tweaking autocomplete but LOL conspiracy theory.

I'm sure nobody at Google noticed that 60% of Trump email was going to spam. Google definitely has shown that political impartiality is the hallmark of "Don't Be Evil."
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