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03-05-2016 , 03:00 PM
Hey everybody lets elect a ****head because CHECKS AND BALANCES.
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03-05-2016 , 03:01 PM
Congress will keep us sane. Got it.
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03-05-2016 , 03:09 PM
None of them Ted Cruz, maybe Congress isn't that bad?
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03-05-2016 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ludacris
Sure disko, you're the only one that took 9th grade government.
U seem slow
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03-05-2016 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Larry hasn't said a single unreasonable thing. But he gets back articles about Hitler from 100 years ago. It's embarrassing.
article is definitely relevant to the trump cult's reassurances that trump's intentions are good despite his rhetoric being abhorrent
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03-05-2016 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
Beyond this being a horrible argument generally:



As the Trumpites are furious about re: Obama, the Department of Homeland Security is part of the executive branch and the President can unilaterally implement significant changes in immigration policy without Congressional approval.
I don't think there is a single Trump voter itt who wouldn't snap vote Obama. You think the Trump voters itt are the same morons going to his rally's. Nobody here is some rapid Obama hating republican idiot. Keep ignoring everything people post amd arguing against stuff youre making up. just coming off like a dunce to be frank. Like a real little man. Maybe even a liar.
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03-05-2016 , 03:28 PM
Executive orders are a thing. They stretch the bounds of what is allowed especially with a Supreme Court unwilling to rein in the growing power of the Federal Government and they're becoming increasingly popular tools by Presidents. Bush used them a bunch and Obama went even further. Does anyone seriously believe Trump (or Hillary for that matter) won't continue the trend and implement more executive orders than Bush and Obama combined?
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03-05-2016 , 03:29 PM
I wish Obama would use more executive orders. A lot more. Not only are they usually great but they also get moron republicans furious.

Again, if the Ikes style establishment Republicans are furious about something, you can essentially guarantee that that's a great thing. Thus, TRUMP.
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03-05-2016 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
I wish Obama would use more executive orders. A lot more. Not only are they usually great but they also get moron republicans furious.

Again, if the Ikes style establishment Republicans are furious about something, you can essentially guarantee that that's a great thing. Thus, TRUMP.
They're not furious about his racism. Hope that helps
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03-05-2016 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Palo
Executive orders are a thing. They stretch the bounds of what is allowed especially with a Supreme Court unwilling to rein in the growing power of the Federal Government and they're becoming increasingly popular tools by Presidents. Bush used them a bunch and Obama went even further. Does anyone seriously believe Trump (or Hillary for that matter) won't continue the trend and implement more executive orders than Bush and Obama combined?
Obama didn't go further in his use of executive orders. Republicans just made a bigger stink about it.
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03-05-2016 , 03:35 PM
So the current Trumptards argument is that Trump is lying to everyone and won't do anything he says he's gonna do? Really?
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03-05-2016 , 03:36 PM
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[quote name="Wooders0n" post=49519308]I wish Obama would use more executive orders. A lot more. Not only are they usually great but they also get moron republicans furious.<br />
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Again, if the Ikes style establishment Republicans are furious about something, you can essentially guarantee that that's a great thing. Thus, TRUMP.
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They're not furious about his racism. Hope that helps[/QUOTE]


Well they're pretending to be. I suppose that the theorem needs to be amended to include that.
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03-05-2016 , 03:39 PM
Thayer, Larry,

Can we get some apologetics about how Trump running a scam operation in Trump University is somehow not disqualifying?
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03-05-2016 , 03:41 PM
Establishment Republicans are only pissed that somebody might take their power. They don't care what that somebody would do with it.

People itt are laughing at you because of what you think that someone will do with it.

But hey, mouth breathing tea party profounds creaming their pants over a racist who wants to disband the department of education, that just must not be as guaranteed of a crappy thing as establishment getting upset is a guaranteed good thing.
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03-05-2016 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Omar Comin
So the current Trumptards argument is that Trump is lying to everyone and won't do anything he says he's gonna do? Really?
Yeah. I guess the corollary is that they believe that all the good things Hillary says she'll do are also lies, and she'll actually do the opposite of all of them.
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03-05-2016 , 03:43 PM
Checks and balances is a way better argument for zero ability to cut waste (or anything else he wants to do when 100% of the other 2 branches oppose him because he is him) than it is for a racist President spreading racism. Symbolic leadership, how does it work
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03-05-2016 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Omar Comin
So the current Trumptards argument is that Trump is lying to everyone and won't do anything he says he's gonna do? Really?
Maybe. I don't think there are any Trumptards itt so it's hard to say. Not a single person here has Trump as their first choice. Most would be voting for a lot of people over him.

I don't think he's lying about much. Maybe exaggerating his stance on some things. He has some pretty awful views and will likely try to act on those.

There are two main reasons I'm voting for Trump as of right now.

1. Hillary is even worse.

2. Trump has a wide range of outcomes. The good outcomes are good though somewhat unlikely (but still very possible). The bad outcomes are bad (and whatever worse adjectives you want to use would be fair), but I believe the massive shock to the system will still lead to long-term good that would be literally 0.00% impossible with 8 years of Hillary.
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03-05-2016 , 03:46 PM
I mean, you have to be a really desperate idealogue to follow Trump. That or exactly the kind of people who show up to his rallies. Who, somehow, in no way represent him.
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03-05-2016 , 03:47 PM
I feel like a huge % of the paid education system is a scam. There are countless people running marketing systems around the US about house flipping and similar that are basically only making money off their system.

There are executive leadership courses that cost significant amounts of money and exist purely for the networking.

I don't doubt Trump U was a cash grab scheme and pretty much equal to any type of "let me teach you how to get rich by getting rich teaching you" scam.

Clinton Foundation tho. ez game
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03-05-2016 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
Establishment Republicans are only pissed that somebody might take their power. They don't care what that somebody would do with it.

People itt are laughing at you because of what you think that someone will do with it.

But hey, mouth breathing tea party profounds creaming their pants over a racist who wants to disband the department of education, that just must not be as guaranteed of a crappy thing as establishment getting upset is a guaranteed good thing.

The pretend-normal but really as racist and horrible as all the rest Republicans losing power is such a good thing that I can't believe anyone could argue otherwise.

Putting up with a bunch of loud idiots who will be easy to shut down later is such a small price to pay for accomplishing the previously impossible seeming task of completely dismantling the GOP power. Added bonus for a middle finger to Hillary.

Tbh even if trump loses he's already done so much good for the world by exposing the GOP as the frauds we knew they are. People like ikes might literally vote for Hillary Clinton over the Republican.

Like, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are still literally arguing in favor of letting people die in the street. And people are still voting for them. This needs to get worse still before it gets better.
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03-05-2016 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
I feel like a huge % of the paid education system is a scam. There are countless people running marketing systems around the US about house flipping and similar that are basically only making money off their system.

There are executive leadership courses that cost significant amounts of money and exist purely for the networking.

I don't doubt Trump U was a cash grab scheme and pretty much equal to any type of "let me teach you how to get rich by getting rich teaching you" scam.

Clinton Foundation tho. ez game
"Clinton Foundation tho" is the best you got? Man, that is just pathetic.
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03-05-2016 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
I don't think there is a single Trump voter itt who wouldn't snap vote Obama. You think the Trump voters itt are the same morons going to his rally's. Nobody here is some rapid Obama hating republican idiot. Keep ignoring everything people post amd arguing against stuff youre making up. just coming off like a dunce to be frank. Like a real little man. Maybe even a liar.
No, my description regarding hatred of Obama applies to 90+% of Trumpites, probably more, regardless of the exact reason percentage this is the genesis and driving force behind the Trump movement. That a small percentage have chosen to associate with this despicable lot based on an underpants gnome theory doesn't make me a liar. Sorry.

Probably a good time to repost this.

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trump has become a moral choice, not a political one

he is unequivocally bad, and we're beginning to see his cult mimic him
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03-05-2016 , 03:55 PM
Maybe Clinton won't be as bad as I think. I can hope.

It isn't like this matters anyway, Trump isn't becoming the president vs Hillary.

His road to win is still very long, and the GOP will probably throw it to Hillary over Trump if it comes to it.
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03-05-2016 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Maybe Clinton won't be as bad as I think. I can hope.

It isn't like this matters anyway, Trump isn't becoming the president vs Hillary.

His road to win is still very long, and the GOP will probably throw it to Hillary over Trump if it comes to it.
Yeah. Like, I'm voting for Trump it comes to it and I like arguing about it online and trolling a bit but it's not going to affect most of the people here one way or another. I've still never voted so I don't know if I'll even be bothered to when the time comes. I'll hope Hillary does good. But really well have to just hope some younger Bernie or not as horrible Trump comes along and it'll be 8 more years before anything fixed.
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03-05-2016 , 03:59 PM
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"Clinton Foundation tho" is the best you got? Man, that is just pathetic.
Are you expecting me to defend Trump U?

What are you asking, seriously? Because I would vote for Trump over Hillary I supposedly share 100% of his views?

I think the Clinton Foundation, Hillary's absolute disregard for protocols and security, handling of important issues as Sec of State, and overall life's work is a worse resume than I do Trump.

You can keep going "Hey Larry, omg Donald Trump ordered prostitute twins and had a threesome! Please defend paid incest!"

But you are only impressing yourself, if that.
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