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08-13-2020 , 12:10 PM
i like yang, but he tepidly endorsed biden when bernie got eliminated. he's a bit of an anti-establishmenet bro and joe doesn't owe him anything. im glad he got a spot because he's interesting, but he doesn't deserve it much more than say Joe Rogan would at the republican convention.
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08-13-2020 , 12:30 PM
haha maybe Tulsi can speak at the RNC.

Yeah that makes sense. It was pretty weak of him to raise a stink about it to begin with.

AOC I don't get, there are plenty of other more qualified freshmen that have actually made legislative ground that didn't get a single second, Lauren Underwood/Deb Haaland/Sharice Davids/Charles Booker are all young freshman with better records, with the latter imo deserving of a slot for almost beating McGrath despite all the obstacles.
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08-13-2020 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I think Yang is getting some time now. I'm all for giving AOC a minute for each bill she introduced (0) that made it to a hearing in her two years of office.
Everything’s coming up Yang!
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08-13-2020 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
haha maybe Tulsi can speak at the RNC.

Yeah that makes sense. It was pretty weak of him to raise a stink about it to begin with.

AOC I don't get, there are plenty of other more qualified freshmen that have actually made legislative ground that didn't get a single second, Lauren Underwood/Deb Haaland/Sharice Davids/Charles Booker are all young freshman with better records, with the latter imo deserving of a slot for almost beating McGrath despite all the obstacles.

Not having a bill passed doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not impactful in some ways(GND a great example of this)

Regardless of how you feel about AOC personally, she is immensely popular in certain demographics, has many millions of followers across social media (probably 10x everyone you listed combined), and very high name recognition/fundraising appeal. Even pragmatically, you should want her to be platformed at the DNC. It seems very disingenuous to want or approve of a John Kasich type to appeal to centrists and Republicans, but not want an AOC type to appeal to young people and progressives.

I’d have given Booker a slot as well, he’s very impressive and should be platformed as much as possible. He’s very likable and sharp.
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08-13-2020 , 03:24 PM
yang is a gigantic dumbass, and shitting on biden after getting played like a gigantic dumbass is one of the only good things he's ever done


but yeah giving loads more time to republicans like kasich & bloomberg than progressives kinda says it all really


but they get *clap* things *clap* done *clap*
(like closing down half the abortion clinics in ohio)
yassssssss kweeeeeeen!!!
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08-13-2020 , 03:28 PM
dems: yeah in case anyone didn't already figure it out, we're basically just another billionaire-owned republican party that won't do **** to help anyone

shitlibs: oh hell yeah, progressives so pwned lolol
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08-13-2020 , 03:53 PM
Trump is immensely popular. AOC isn’t even a Democrat, and isn’t going to speak on anything that has to do with getting Trump out of office.

Christ I was totally joking with my post this morning, but damn.



Tired of the alt-left using the party to push their right-wight agendas. Leftists can form their own party with hello somebody and **** all the way off.
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08-13-2020 , 04:05 PM
Where are these reports other than this twitter post? I don't see it and won't believe it until she is actually on the zoom call.


Looking at this twitter account deeper this is all bullshit. I guess a joke to get people like you to spread disinformation or misinformation.

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08-13-2020 , 04:12 PM
I don't believe it either, I was just joking earlier today and then saw that on Twitter.
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08-13-2020 , 04:24 PM
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JUST IN: Senate leaves until September without coronavirus relief deal

bffs with republicans so we can get *clap* things *clap* done *clap* like ... giving steve mnuchin $15T to play around with??


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In California, Mnuchin — now the Treasury secretary — acquired regional banks like OneWest with the federal government’s help; the banks got billions in subsidies as they foreclosed on 35,000 homeowners in the Golden State alone, Glantz reports. Harris did little to stop that bleeding — and later tried to suppress evidence of her inaction.

“Harris’ deputies recommended that their boss sue the bank,’’ Glantz said, citing the bank’s loss-share agreement with the FDIC, which stated that Mnuchin’s bank could only receive payments from the government if it followed proper foreclosure procedures. “If the state of California found OneWest violated those rules, the payments could stop – saving not only homeowners...but government coffers as well.’’

“[But] despite a strong recommendation from her staff,’’ Harris never legally pursued Mnuchin’s OneWest bank, he says. “As a result, no one at OneWest faced prosecution — and no one got their homes back.”
fun fact: harris was then the 1 dem senator that mnuchin donated to in 2016 or whatever

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08-13-2020 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Trump is immensely popular. AOC isn’t even a Democrat, and isn’t going to speak on anything that has to do with getting Trump out of office.
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Not sure what Trump being popular has to do with anything. If that’s meant to imply that being popular is somehow a negative inherently it’s not. Name recognition/popularity/high engagement etc are all positives when you are trying to expand the voting base, as you noted earlier as a goal.

Kasich is literally not a Democrat (AOC literally is on voting ballots) so that argument doesn’t even make sense using your interpretation.

As is, she’s going to speak for about 1 minute. She obviously despises Trump and wants him out of office. Neither of us are privy to what she’ll say (or would’ve said if given additional time) so i don’t know where you’re generating that assumption either.

I’m also unsure why the needs and wants of Republicans/swing voters are being catered to more than young progressives, even from a pragmatic point of view as many have ITT. Never Trump Republicans will just go back to voting R once the candidate isn’t a brain damaged fascist. Swing voters will have to be a tactical case by case basis depending on the nominees. Young progressives will be alive much longer and also almost always vote D if they do vote since many Republican policies are total non starters for them.
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08-13-2020 , 04:33 PM
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New: the USPS has been quietly removing mail sorting machines from distribution facilities, including ones that sort ballots. "I’m not sure you’re going to find an answer for why,” a union official told me, “because we haven’t figured that out either.”

dems: huh, that's weird ... our advice, is to vote!
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08-13-2020 , 04:50 PM
Young progressives aren't swing voters, we've already discussed this. Hell most of them aren't even voters. I don't like Kasich at the DNC to begin with and I'm okay with AOC being there, but complaining about 60 seconds while Beto and other more successful legislators did not, especially after saying the things she said about both parties on the ticket, even while one of them co-authored the goddamn GND with her and also co-authored the M4A bill... but she's a cop though and definitely not progressive though right?

Also nice republican oppo-piece 72o, you might want to include all the facts though.

I was going to write it out, but this thread explains it. I doubt you will read it, though.



Cliffs : charging Mnuchin would have resulted in an L and delayed the 25B that Californians got in settlement because state departments can't legally subpoena national banks.

You can take almost anything someone has done and twist it how you want.
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08-13-2020 , 05:10 PM
will the bros signal boost this with the glee they signal boost republican propaganda?

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08-13-2020 , 05:19 PM
I'm actually pretty sure 72o got that from the billionaire-funded stabled of truth known as The Intercept, you know, the ones who pushed the Tara Reade story out without vetting and then 72o came on here to whine when the NYT said there wasn't sufficient evidence to print anything.
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08-13-2020 , 06:44 PM
Still annoyed that 72o is going to take on of Harris' biggest accomplishments, one that saved the California and national housing market, and try to frame it something sinister.

Here's what really happened:



And for the historians, who did Kamala Harris task with running the negotiations? The same now congresswoman who got Redfield to ensure free Covid testing. Apparently she has an eye for talent as well.

Spoiler:

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08-13-2020 , 06:53 PM
can porter get kamala's seat?
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08-13-2020 , 07:28 PM
yes the only good & true thing in this world is democratic party talking points, and literally all criticism of them is russian fake news, got it


blue maga is hilarious
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08-13-2020 , 07:34 PM
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First Choice For 2024 Democratic Primary (Among Democrats):

Cuomo: 21%
Harris: 19%
Buttigieg: 16%
AOC: 9%
Yang: 8%
Klobuchar: 6%
Booker: 6%
O'Rourke: 6%
Abrams: 6%
Gillibrand: 3%

lol, incredible
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08-13-2020 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mullen
Not having a bill passed doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not impactful in some ways(GND a great example of this)

Regardless of how you feel about AOC personally, she is immensely popular in certain demographics, has many millions of followers across social media (probably 10x everyone you listed combined), and very high name recognition/fundraising appeal. Even pragmatically, you should want her to be platformed at the DNC. It seems very disingenuous to want or approve of a John Kasich type to appeal to centrists and Republicans, but not want an AOC type to appeal to young people and progressives.

I’d have given Booker a slot as well, he’s very impressive and should be platformed as much as possible. He’s very likable and sharp.
just as the entire ideology of the right is pissing off the libs, the entire ideology of the demE is pissing off the left. they literally have no principles or policy goals. AOC is the enemy and its their whole desire to destroy her and then gloat about it afterwards.
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08-13-2020 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
dems: yeah in case anyone didn't already figure it out, we're basically just another billionaire-owned republican party that won't do **** to help anyone

shitlibs: oh hell yeah, progressives so pwned lolol
ya this is a better way to put it.
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08-13-2020 , 07:58 PM
lol they're straight up just removing mailboxes in blue areas now, and apparently there's nothing to be done about that

and as if they won't also just destroy ballots etc


Just Politics, baby!
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08-13-2020 , 08:44 PM
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can porter get kamala's seat?
Newsome avoided the question when asked today, but she seems to be the sexy pick. There are a lot of names that people who know way more than me have suggested ahead of her though.

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yes the only good & true thing in this world is democratic party talking points, and literally all criticism of them is russian fake news, got it

blue maga is hilarious
No, it's about taking ten minutes to see if there is an explanation for what you've read, or if there is more to the story. You're entire MO ITT is to get hard over anything negative about shitlibs, and angrily post it without so much as a fact-check to see if what you're writing holds water.

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just as the entire ideology of the right is pissing off the libs, the entire ideology of the demE is pissing off the left. they literally have no principles or policy goals. AOC is the enemy and its their whole desire to destroy her and then gloat about it afterwards.
You can't be this dense Victor, I literally named two other justice democrats as people who should be speaking over AOC. It has nothing to do with her policy goals, which surprise surprise are nearly identical to the woman you've called a republican cop.
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08-13-2020 , 08:53 PM
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President Trump says he's 'putting New York in play' against Biden, hoping to be first Republican since Reagan to win the state

In 2016 Hillary beat him by 22 points. But citing crime and taxes, he says, 'Who would not vote for me?'

anyway i can't wait for fredo to "win" all 50 states by like a 70/30 min split or something, only for shitlibs to cry nooooo, it was rigged!!


oh you and your crazy conspiracy theories lolol
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08-14-2020 , 10:55 AM
the saddest thing about protest votes is that they go to the dumbest ****ing *******s on the planet

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