They are number one sponsors when you just count direct ties. Hezbollah, Hamas, and Shiite militias in Syria and Iraq. Hezbollah has been major part of the equation that has destroyed Lebanon. You probably already know about Hamas and Israel. The brutalness of the Shiite militias is what caused caused many Sunnis to be sympathetic to ISIS. Even today, when the West helps takes over an ISIS stronghold, at the first chance Iranian sponsored Shiite militias will come in town and kill lots of civilians for being "ISIS sympathizers." As you can imagine, puts Sunnis in a hellish lose-lose situation.

Al Qaeda and the Taliban are Sunni so do not ally with Iran. However, there is evidence that they have worked with them when there was a "common interest." Those would be the indirect ties.

they have an utter cancer govt. and it was bc of the usa. that cia orchestrated coup totally messed that country up.

now citizens get arrested for dancing or drinking.

I'm really not doubting Iran's involvement in the sponsorship of terrorism. I am just curious where the evidence of Eddy's statement is, if the claim is that Iran's government have been very smart about not being directly tied to terrorism.

Edit: I think Condoleeza Rice had a report done on Iran and state sponsored terrorism, but can't remember what its conclusions were. I should, at this stage, probably just google.

Edit 2: Just to clarify, I wasn't trying to imply that Iran isn't sponsoring terrorism, just legit curious how it was proven if Eddy's statement was correct.

50 to 50 on DeVos

Hopefully Pence doing Yes just now will get some of the 90% GOP voters to start realizing they've been conned

Why is the VP allowed to break a tie? They should have to vote again. And if it is still a tie, then that person can't be placed into the position. **** Pence.

Why would Pence voting the same way as 95% of the other Republicans change any voter's opinion of anything?

Because even lifelong Republican voters hate DeVos.

Because the headline is that Pence confirms her.

Because he literally had the power to say no.

No this is one of those times where he is wrong. Obama's deal with Iran was done in tandem with allies and was hardly well received by republicans plus there was no suspicion that Iran was personally blackmailing him and/or staff that had obvious huge conflicts of interest business there.

idk but it's literally in the Constitution

huh?

why would he possibly vote no, that would be really really weird

Don't be obtuse

The point is that we need to chip away at the 90% approval rating, and so far this has the most upside there of all the appalling things the administration has done, because it's about American children instead of immigrants, and because loyal Republican voters have been calling their Senators daily, desperately trying to get DeVos denied.

I think you've leveled yourself.

Yeah, there is some hope here. Both sides tend to hate open corruption, and Betsy is a pretty clear example of a bought and paid for appointment. The fact that this has nothing to do with Brown folks makes it easier for some less entrenched Reds to say "no thanks"

I think you don't understand the contemporary political game. There is nobody who is enough of a political junkie to understand Pence's vote was standard who doesn't already oppose Trump.

The grassroots organizing I've done since the inauguration indicates some significant amount of loyal GOP voters who, for the first time this term, feel like the administration and their Senators have let them down.

It's good that people feel that way. We've been desperately trying to find out how we would get them to feel this way.

it would still be incredibly awkward for the VP to vote against one of the president's candidates

i mean, it would have definitely been hilarious, but how would those convos go

No ****, sherlock

I don't think that's the point that's being argued here. The Pence "yes" can be used as political ammunition because the Devos appointment is not popular amongst a lot of Republicans.

let's just all be thankful that today we still have Trump as president

not the president we deserve but the president we need

america for americans

Pence probably wanted this appointment as much or more than Trump so obviously he wasn't stepping out of line. However, if he hypothetically did vote against one of Trump's appointments I think Trump would probably try to fire him and then be super mad when he's told he can't.

"so-called vice president"

Yes. Pence and DeVos both want the government out of education. Christian* schools only, that's the objective. The end goal is a Christian* state that will war against any state not allied with the Christian* cause.

*The right kind of Christian. Obviously, most Christians aren't real Christians to these people.

(Please try to read this in a non-condescending tone. Like more of a puzzled one)

So these people think, "I'm disappointed this administration did not stop this administration's terrible nominee in a Senate confirmation."? In a way that would not have been there had it gone 51-49? Am I a political junkie because I know they could have withdrawn the nomination at any time rather than wait until the end of the up/down vote to vote her down? Really?

Wonder what justification Swamp Drainers will use to justify being ok with Betsy's appointment.

Yep

Along with believing that people up to and including Pence would stand up to Trump on the "really bad stuff"

The VP used to be determined differently. The loser got it at first I think, then it was a separate race. Someone can correct me on specifics but the Pres and VP weren't a package deal.

Phone posting or I would've researched.