I'm willing to forgive a lot, like if people were cheerleaders for the Iraq War but then issued a mea culpa and appeared to actually change their worldview as a result of it, then OK, welcome aboard Team Good Guys. But McCain lived through the Vietnam War, from which experience he... became a cheerleader for Iraq, after which, well into Iraq being a disaster, he was dancing around singing "Bomb Iran" and being a huge cheerleader for same.

So while it's true that he sometimes did things which helped out Team Good Guys, on balance **** him.

Really tough to admire someone whose only whiff of empathy relates to bad **** they personally have experienced.

Oh, he's def not on the good team. By any means. Just saying that, like most humans, he does have SOME admirable qualities. I think compared to others here, I see him more as a guy who often tried to do what he thought was right, but was just totally misguided and/or stupid. Also, thirsty for war.

well that explains that

Republicans in a nutshell

He gets way too much credit for remaining a pow. He was following the proper rules and procedure of usa military. If he had accepted removal it would have been an offense as an officer.

Also, regardless of that, it was not some act of complete charity. He absolutely intended to pursue a career in politics and he knew how important such a perceived act it was. I am cynical enough to say it was completely self-serving given how useful it was to his career.

What the hell? She's ugly because she takes after him too much and not enough from her mom. She got Bill's nose which by itself was enough to doom her appearance.

To be clear, what he said was: “Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father.”. It was a joke he told at a 1998 fundraising dinner.

I vaguely remember that now. I'd forgotten and the comment just strikes me as super bizarre since she takes after Bill so much. Awful joke.

I hate that guy's writing style, but there is some good stuff in the post.

Before I form an opinion on the madden tourney shooting, I need to know which players knelt during the anthem

Fine. I'm still leaving you there though.

Victor, you really think McCain was thinking "This will look great on my resume!" while all this was happening?

he didnt have the option to leave then. what he did during that time was attempt suicide and agree to sign documents arranged by the n. vietnamese (ie cave to torture).

once they found out he was the son of a super high ranking general, they fixed him up.

I was reading what Vic said as...so many POWs that got the hell beat out of them but McCain was smart enough to Parlay that into getting into Congress like just being a POW gives you lots of cred with others who have "served" and being able to leverage that into votes...seems fairly standard card to play when running for office.

That said the waxing poetic on McCain on all the networks shouldnt be a surprise. Its not like we're gonna get someone to say "yeah well you know he voted for every tax cut known to man, elite war monger, and outside of Drumpf took more money from the NRA then any other politician in the the history of United States" while this giant circle jerk is going on. I mean come on this is the "thoughts and prayers" party.

Also anyone in TX PLEASE vote for this dude and not the ****ing betacuck Ted Cruz....this was awesome...BETO

mccain haters...how do you feel about the flag fiasco today?

I don't care one way or the other, but it is somewhat interesting how petty and spineless Trump is.

This tweet sums up how I feel:

lol flaggate, who gives a ****

spineless is him relenting and finally releasing the statement (that he obv had no part in writing) praising McCain etc

what a cuck

Feels like we'll see Beto on the national political stage in coming years regardless of the outcome of this election.

The number of politicians who even know enough history to give that answer spontaneously is disgustingly small. The number who could deliver that answer that well is in the single digits.

imagine worshiping that ^

what a bloated sack of garbage

Yeah that Beto guy looks an absolute dream future president from what little I've seen of him. No doubt the GOP propaganda machine will either dig up or create a series of scandals and render him unelectable.

Most politicians suck **** ass. Who wants to be a politician? Think of all the most engaging, perspicacious, capable people you have known in your life - how many of them ever indicated even the most remote interest in pursuing politics? I'm sure most of us have been around at least some impressive people in academia or industry; I don't remember any of the ones I've encountered seriously considering throwing it all away in that **** pool.

not even worshipping tho, imagine being merely impressed by him

imagine listening to him speak for 5 mins and coming away thinking yes i'd be happy for this chap to run my country

everything about him is fraudulent. even his appearance is fraudulent. shouldn't even have to start talking for you to figure it out