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12-15-2017 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
My phone gets insanely fast internet at home that I can use as a hotspot. Why would it be so hard for a company to come along and offer affordable "fair internet" or w.e?
It wouldn't be that hard. It's because the incumbents have already rigged the game and they're going to even more. It's textbook definition of rent-seeking behavior.

The status quo isn't ok. Service is already expensive and terrible by first world standards. The oligopolies are going to crush newcomers (or rather prevent anyone from even thinking about starting in this space), reduce investment, degrade already laughably awful customer service and do things we haven't even thought of yet.
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12-15-2017 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Can any of the lawyers around here give a sports related analogy for how unqualified this guy is?

Prospective federal judge not knowing what "motion in limine" is = Prospective MLB ump/NBA ref/etc. not knowing....?
Not a lawyer, but per another site:

"If this were baseball, a motion in limine would be similar to "what is a grand slam?" Daubert would be similar to the infield fly rule. Abstention question would be similar to whether there is a designated hitter in the world series when the game is played in an American league park"
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12-15-2017 , 01:27 PM
Yeah just cant get worked up over this. Dont think being able to stream Netflix in 4khd for 10 dollars a month is a natural right.


Itll be ok.
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12-15-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
How many yards must an onside kick travel before recovery by the kicking team?
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
It’s like a NFL ref not knowing what a challenge flag is.
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"If this were baseball, a motion in limine would be similar to "what is a grand slam?"
Is it seriously this ****ing basic? Like, could my mom (who is a big Law & Order fan) have answered that question?
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12-15-2017 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
generally it doesn't, large majority of people have at least two ISPs to chose from
Roughly 50 million Americans only have access to one high-speed ISP, fwiw.
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12-15-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by heh
Roughly 50 million Americans only have access to one high-speed ISP, fwiw.
Would love to see this on a map.
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12-15-2017 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Yeah just cant get worked up over this. Dont think being able to stream Netflix in 4khd for 10 dollars a month is a natural right.


Itll be ok.
While it's true that it's not a "God given right," I can't see why that means Comcast, Verizon, et al should be able to take it away while offering nothing in return.
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12-15-2017 , 02:01 PM
Found it

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12-15-2017 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Would love to see this on a map.
No map, but data here: https://arstechnica.com/information-...r-none-at-all/
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12-15-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
While it's true that it's not a "God given right," I can't see why that means Comcast, Verizon, et al should be able to take it away while offering nothing in return.
Not sure what youre saying. No one is forcing you to have internet/cable.
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12-15-2017 , 02:06 PM
Amazing how much yellow there is. Lol South.
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12-15-2017 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Not sure what youre saying. No one is forcing you to have internet/cable.
As in the change will enrich companies like Verizon or Comcast without requiring them to provide a new or better service to consumers. The point of allowing entities like these to exist is so that they can provide a service to the public, not enrich their stockholders at the public's expense.
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12-15-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Not sure what youre saying. No one is forcing you to have internet/cable.
A very cdlbot argument. I guess no one is forced to have electricity either.
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12-15-2017 , 02:50 PM
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A very cdlbot argument. I guess no one is forced to have electricity either.
Lol at comparing electricity to being able to stream Fuller House.
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12-15-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
As in the change will enrich companies like Verizon or Comcast without requiring them to provide a new or better service to consumers. The point of allowing entities like these to exist is so that they can provide a service to the public, not enrich their stockholders at the public's expense.
But the consumer has the ability/power to not consume.
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12-15-2017 , 02:53 PM
The bigger issue isn't anything to do with Netflix, imo, it's more about particular providers being able to entirely block certain sources of news, info, etc.
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12-15-2017 , 02:58 PM
That would be quite a big PR mistake. Id be much more worried about the government doing that, which they could do with or without net neutrality.
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12-15-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
That would be quite a big PR mistake.
Reminder that these are the CABLE COMPANIES we're talking about
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12-15-2017 , 03:08 PM
BIG CABLE being our ISPs is a problem whether or not net neutrality laws existed. At least now there will be real incentive to solve that problem.

Lol Obama and all his ineffective band-aid measures.
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12-15-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Water costs more the more you use too. Why should I be charged more per gallon for gallons 10,000+ than I am for the first 100 gallons in a month? It’s just more of the same thing.
Huh? I see the water bill for my company every month, we use 2+ million gallons per month and our unit rate is the same as my house water bill
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12-15-2017 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
BIG CABLE being our ISPs is a problem whether or not net neutrality laws existed. At least now there will be real incentive to solve that problem.

Lol Obama and all his ineffective band-aid measures.
What real incentive is there (now) to add more ISPs?

Not like the incentive hasn't always been there. It's just way too expensive to start putting fiber in the ground and there is no political will to force infrastructure owners to rent out said infrastructure at market rates (which is how most of Europe solved the issue of ISP monopolies)
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12-15-2017 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Is it seriously this ****ing basic? Like, could my mom (who is a big Law & Order fan) have answered that question?
Your mom, or anyone that hasn’t taken evidence, would almost certainly not be able to articulate Daubert.

Your mom, or anyone that hasn’t litigated jury trials, would very likely not be able to articulate what a Motion in limine constitutes.

Abstention, she (or a random non-lawyer) possibly could logic it out. But very doubtful.

The analogies are pretty awful (many highly competent lawyers who could very well make good judges practice in highly selective areas that don’t touch on litigation matters hardly ever), but that guy clearly doesn’t have anything like the requisite background to be a federal judge. And, judging by his lack of preparedness to face the Senate Judiciary Committee, likely lacks the necessary intellect to get by with that lack of experience.

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12-15-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by heh
What real incentive is there (now) to add more ISPs?

Not like the incentive hasn't always been there. It's just way too expensive to start putting fiber in the ground and there is no political will to force infrastructure owners to rent out said infrastructure at market rates (which is how most of Europe solved the issue of ISP monopolies)
Why do you need stuff in the ground? How is it that my cellphone has super fast internet anywhere I go?
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12-15-2017 , 03:51 PM
Lol lawyers
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12-15-2017 , 03:57 PM
Is there any problem with the long term streaming service model (or is it possible just inefficient)? How would it compare to just torrenting anything?

Not that knowledgeable on this so hopefully someone can parse my questions.
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