Republicans win before the debate even starts by framing doors as layabout scammers in the minds of suburbanites.

Most poor people work, usually multiple jobs. Their lives are really tough.

its like 180 a month. these ppl are just lying bc they heard some crap of fox news and it made them mad.

this. poor ppl work more hours and more physically demanding work than middle class and rich. its really not close.

and there are other aspects of being poor that amount to work except they dont get paid. like when their car breaks down and they cat fix it, then it takes 2-3 hours to get work for a few days while they save the money to fix it or get the time to fix it themselves.

theres the time spent with social services to actually get their food stamp cards activated.

they get taxed in many other ways too. like without a debit card or bank account then they gotta go to a check cashing place and spend 2-5%. they gotta buy a phone card and pay the 5$ fee bc they cant pay with a debit card. same with electric and water.

shopping takes much longer bc they need to go to the stores with the cheapest items and those are often different places and different days. so its costco for toilet paper and meat during a sale. its the cheap fresh market across time for veggies on another day.

its just blatantly obv that the poor haters on this board are totally lying about their understanding of how the poor live. they are all lying about being poor are spending time with poors.

and most importantly they have absolutely no understanding of the ability for a person to get ahead by working. in the workplace, for poor ppl, the deck is stacked against them to keep them at the absolute lowest pay possible. working hard and smart will never get a raise. the best is that it will allow the worker to keep his job so that he can continue being exploited.

I assume all of these people who are upset about lazy people getting handouts are REALLY mad about the proposed elimination of the estate tax.

trading food stamps for cash makes someone a total LOWLIFE

but

ayn rand bootstrap billionaires scamming the government out of billions in tax revenue is JUST BUSINESS

weebay_whoa.gif. good post.

you need to go to bfi to start to understand them. its a bit of a cycle. see, poor ppl are poor bc they are stupid and lazy and thus they dont deserve money. rich ppl are rich bc they are smart and hardworking so they deserve all the money.

in that view, the estate tax is absolutely just.

We all get a good chuckle out of the “they both get money they don’t deserve” between estate tax and welfare, but a family deciding who gets the money earned within the family is a bit different than what’s effectively a huge group of strangers subsidizing a smaller group of strangers.

Like, I’m much more comfortable giving $100 or w/e to my sister than a hobo.

Collectivist government thieves. That's all you need to know about the estate tax.

Estate tax threshold is pretty high.

But secondly it is about receiving income. The double taxation argument doesn't really hold that much water when held under a light.

Sure, and I agree.

The equivalence between estate tax and welfare is kinda dumb is my point

I wish I had more time here, but I just wanted to say that I've actually started a foundation to help out anyone who can't afford to open up a bank account. I don't want them to have to pay 2% to get their checks cashed anymore due to the atrocity of how much cash they would need to save to get their own debit card.

My grandfather always said that it is expensive to be poor. Truer than ever.

ya there are also plenty of times where a great deal comes along but a poor cant take advantage of it bc they dont have enough money.

and then when they are in need of something desperately, they must spend more than they otherwise would have.

there are just so many examples. unless you have actually been through it and spent an extended period of time poor and struggling, then you really would have no idea.

Get a job, you lazy bum. Then get 30 percent in house financing on a clunker so you can go to work. And so on and so forth.

Are we talking about military veterans and their undeserved benefits? Because 10% sounds low.

Agree with this but a lot of poor people are life fish pure and simple and from an early age.

I've read the first part several times as a head-scratcher. Upon consideration, I believe there is a typo and this:

should have gone like this:

Because, otherwise it just makes no sense. Why would they need cash when they're putting it all on a credit card? I presume the idea is they'll stiff the card company or declare bankruptcy to actually cover the cost of the Disneyworld trip or something? Also, I thought the play was "selling food stamps for booze or cigarettes or lotto tickets" or something.

Now, don't get me wrong, perhaps this dude just isn't making sense and it's not a typo. But that just seems like such a terribly incredibly weird and specific example. I mean, I 100% more dislike the self-entitled asswipes who were booking fake-handicap trips to Disney so they could skip the lines and ****--so all I'm thinking about these welfare-disney-queens is "They're not the worst though; because of those disabled-faker-****heads".

And, guarantee you they're republicans, btw.

Sure you have pal

Bump

Yeah, I mean VMF is still blabbering on about Seth Rich...

Pretty hard to reach stuff like this tbh

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...porters-215800

People feel how they feel and believe what they believe and no evidence will change that. At least people are leaving places like that for cities. Can only help.

Pretty sure that was supposed to be a sick burn on irresponsible poors.

Xn,

What do you do that varies between 25k and 100k between two consecutive years?

Actually curious unless you’re actually a gambler of some sort.

Can I be on team 'cut out all the scam artists?'