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05-08-2017 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
GOP have already backtracked and said he was just being complimentary of Turnbull and what may work in Australia and everywhere else on Earth may not work in the US bla bla bla
The spin I heard is that he praised AUS because anything is better than Obamacare.
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05-08-2017 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
IDK about you, but if I spent 25 years or whatever doing what Bernie does, I'd need to have a sense of humor about it.
If he chuckled and rolled his eyes or used it as an opportunity for a one liner that would be one thing.

But dude was guffawing and knee-slapping. It's not like this is an unexpected thing for Trump to say, this is his m.o.
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05-08-2017 , 02:32 AM
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"Victory for Macron, for France, the EU, & the world. Defeat to those interfering w/democracy. (But the media says I can't talk about that)," Clinton said on Twitter
She's going to be the 2020 Democratic Nominee
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05-08-2017 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
She's going to be the 2020 Democratic Nominee
0% chance. Even if she did run (she won't) she would lose the primary. There is no recovering from losing to Donald ****ing Trump.
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05-08-2017 , 04:13 AM
She's going to continue to build the case that she would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that pesky Comey, Russians, and apparently now the media.
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05-08-2017 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
0% chance. Even if she did run (she won't) she would lose the primary. There is no recovering from losing to Donald ****ing Trump.
If I had any faith in the competence of the Democratic party, or if I had any faith that Hillary would do the right thing here (GTFO of politics forever), I would agree with you.

Because I don't believe either of these things to be true, the chance is something above 0%.
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05-08-2017 , 08:52 AM
Could see her running again, she's like a cockroach.
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05-08-2017 , 09:07 AM
Kanye or bust
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05-08-2017 , 09:38 AM
the unfortunate truth for D's is that the #1 reason Hillary lost was...Obama. His handling of the Comey info doomed her. it's only bc of Obama that he dropped bombshells so late in the game

but no, no chance she runs again.
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05-08-2017 , 09:49 AM
lolwat
That's not true at all. To expand - she and the rest of her campaign team had no idea how to appeal to the working class and had terrible assumptions that she'd win states that she ended up losing, spending their dollars accordingly.

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05-08-2017 , 09:56 AM
Seems like an easy fix for next time, though.
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05-08-2017 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
lolwat
That's not true at all. To expand - she and the rest of her campaign team had no idea how to appeal to the working class and had terrible assumptions that she'd win states that she ended up losing, spending their dollars accordingly.
of course her campaign was filled with mistakes. but Donald Trump admitted to being a sexual predator on tape, it's not like she was outfoxed by some uber politician who did everything right. they were both terrible candidates.

even with all her errors, if Comey doesn't drop his bomb a week before the election, she wins. that's not excuse making, that's just what happened and it's supported by all data.

imagine Team A lining up to kick a 30 yard field goal to win the game on the last play of the game. it get's blocked bc Team B used a cheerleader manuever and threw a guy 30 feet into the air who blocked the kick - but the refs somehow miss this and they get away with it. Team B wins.

you could sit here and argue about Team A's playcalling in the 3rd quarter or whatever and say they lost the game bc of that, but obviously what happens at the end is most important.
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05-08-2017 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
even with all her errors, if Comey doesn't drop his bomb a week before the election, she wins. that's not excuse making, that's just what happened and it's supported by all data.
What data?
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05-08-2017 , 10:21 AM
#1 reason Hillary lost is because she is a terrible person and ran a terrible campaign.

The field goal example doesn't work because it implies no fault on the kicker. It would be more like if the kicker was using an illegal shoe the entire season and it got revealed right before a game winning kick attempt in the super bowl.

Hillary sucks
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05-08-2017 , 10:33 AM
The next person to mention Hillary gets a kick in the balls

She sucks

She lost

It's over

The current situation warrants, like, attention and stuff
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05-08-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
0% chance. Even if she did run (she won't) she would lose the primary. There is no recovering from losing to Donald ****ing Trump.
Who do you think she'll lose the primary to? What if no one else runs?
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05-08-2017 , 10:37 AM
Actually I've been hoping for a good kick to the nuts for a while now...
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05-08-2017 , 10:38 AM
NTTAWWT
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05-08-2017 , 10:42 AM
I will be underwhelmed if it's anyone other than Kanye tbh
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05-08-2017 , 10:48 AM
Would pay good money to see Kanye doing a "and imma let you finish..." interruption of Trump in a debate...
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05-08-2017 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
The next person to mention Hillary gets a kick in the balls

She sucks

She lost

It's over

The current situation warrants, like, attention and stuff
Meh, there's always a good bit of soul-searching and rearview-mirror-watching after an event like that, and I think that is (mostly) a good thing. Lessons Learned should be part of the closeout process of any worthwhile undertaking.

That said...yeah I agree with your sentiment, especially the last bit.
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05-08-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
The next person to mention Hillary gets a kick in the balls

She sucks

She lost

It's over

The current situation warrants, like, attention and stuff
Tell her that
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05-08-2017 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
What data?
I assume he's referring to the inordinate amount of media attention paid to EMAILS, I could link you but you'd get a more complete picture if you just visited Nate Silver's twitter feed.
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05-08-2017 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
What data?
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/...n-overwhelming

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-the-election/


granted, nate cohn just put out a piece today arguing against the comey effect

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/08/u...=top-news&_r=0


i dont really care and will let the nerds figure it out
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05-08-2017 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Who do you think she'll lose the primary to? What if no one else runs?
538 did a piece this morning. There are going to be a ton of people running, Trump is likely to be a very vulnerable candidate and people want to be President.

my dark horse guess is Zuckerberg
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