As the resident Taibbi enthusiast, this seems like my job.

Flathead, the original and probably best of his Friedman pieces.

Flat N All That, the followup.

More Taibbi on Friedman:

No Kidding: The Most Incoherent Tom Friedman Column Ever

Thomas Friedman Takes on ISIS

Late Is Enough: On Thomas Friedman's New Book

Thomas Friedman Goes To The Wall

And his Friedman competitions:

Come Up With the Ultimate Thomas Friedman Porn Title and the results.

The Official Thomas Friedman 'Make a Meaningless Graph' Contest and the results

Enjoy!

OK, you are all aboard the scientific consensus on climate change. What is the right and proper position for which to advocate politically, instead of what the libtards want?

to Chris

I suppose that's the real question now isn't it? I don't think the libtards methods and tactics are working. Do you?


As stated earlier, I'm a big fan of tax credits to influence change. Tax credits do not negatively affect every other part of the economy the way other political spendings and policies do. I also think companies do not pay their fair share of global destruction fwiw.


But my main lefty criticism is about the way they go about their persuasions, not really the particular policy.

Do you disagree with their goals, or only methods?

Definitely not with their "theoretical goals", definitely their methods, but I guess it's a little bit more nuanced and I question the actual end results and effects of the policies passed by their goals.

Well, I am glad you consulted with a climate change denier to enlighten us on the proper way to effect policy to combat climate change, policies about which you apparently have no better ideas for what might work any better.

What you don't understand is that the latter part actually does make these people's lives better. They are literally happier because other people are mad, sad, and hurt. So while he hasn't enacted policies that make them better off from your point of view this is making them better off in their own minds. And at the end of the day how well off you are is just a measure of happiness and everyone has their own unique combination of inputs that determines how happy they are.

While you might think things like money, job opportunities, healthcare, better educations for your children etc. are the best way to measure this someone else might have a completely different set of inputs.

Well, I guess I apologize, and encourage you and all the other mainstream centrist-Dem slappies to continue doing their thing. I'm sure it will work out great.

It's sort of like how I'm happier when the Denver Broncos lose painfully. This brings me tangible positive utility in the form of schadenfreude.

So THAY3R, if I'm understanding this correctly, you don't actually have a position?

A- I believe in MMCC and understand the seriousness of the issue

B- If A you obviously must support Kyoto, Cap and trade and any other fix anyone else comes up with, No Matter The Cost, And No Matter What That Cost Achieves! (Especially If It Pleases The Base And Is Therefor Good Politics For My Team)

If A but no B you're a stupid drumpkin racist and must be killed

OK, same question to you. What is the correct policy, then?

Lovely

No idea, which is about my confidence level in Obama, or Gore, or The World (kyoto) coming up with the right solution. no, none, zero. The more cash graby it looks, the lower my confidence. The more that the environmentalist's (you know, the people that now HATE big wind and big solar, and have always hated nuclear. these level headed folks that clearly aren't just dirty hippie ******s to be dirty hippie ******s) like it, the lower my confidence.

Well, heaven forbid one should think that there is anyone who knows more about climate change than you do. Anyone purporting such is obviously a faker.

Who's cucking who here

What? I thought starting the post with "no idea" made it pretty clear I didn't fancy myself an expert. Of course you're a high level expert on the subject, how could you not be..

There's just something mesmerizing about woke_bros shouting, "Wake up, sheeple, this environment stuff is a big cash grab!" while the Sec of State does the bidding of an oil monolith on their tax dollar.

Yes, and apparently, you also conclude that everyone else has no idea, despite, and perhaps because of, the fact you have none.

Yup. Obviously it's the liberals in the pocket of BIG whatever, while oil companies are on the side of pure logic and sound policy.

When you have "no idea" about something who ya gonna listen to?

Virtually everyone intelligent/informed who has closely studied the issue or Bret Stephens?

Which side of the ledger is more persuasive? Let's even grant that many of these informed people might have an agenda.

I wish these woke bros were alive in the 50s to defend big tobacco

I would imagine Obama knows more about the issue than me, therefore whatever he says goes.

Trump knows more about business regulations than you,


see, see it, DO YOU SEE IT?