Not exactly sure how Cory loses there. I imagine Wes/Nany probably get at least 3 flags in the challenge if they don't go first. Really needed them to win to make this season somewhat interesting. While his "I wouldn't even give Dario a meeting" line was pretty awful, he is right that he would be Sarah's only friend if she wasn't on Johnny Bannans team.

Say Cory/Ashley did beat Nate/Christina in the previous elimination, and Devin/Cheyenne were losers in the ep's challenge. Do Bannans/Sarah send in Dario or Cory along with Wes? I wish this would have happened and they send in Dario just to see him look like an idiot.

This is nice.

i wouldnt even give him a meeting is a great line

Hey sarah could you please shut the **** up?

This season is incredibly frustrating

Updated pool standings:

			TOTAL
bahbahmickey	Jamie	17.50	20.00
	KellyAnne	17.50
	Devin	-2.50
	Cheyenne	-2.50
	Thomas	-5.00
	Simone	-5.00
Caldarooni	Cory	32.50	70.00
	Ashley	32.50
	Tony	2.50
	Camila	2.50
Onlydo2days	Wes	35.00	80.00
	Nany	35.00
	Johnny	5.00
	Jessica	5.00
CDL	Bananas	65.00	195.00
	Sarah	65.00
	Nate	32.50
	Christina	32.50
Zimmer	Leroy	-10.00	25.00
	Averey	-10.00
	Brandon	-5.00
	Briana	-5.00
	Nelson	10.00
	Amanda	10.00
	Devin	17.50
	Cheyenne	17.50
Teej	Vince	40.00	160.00
	Jenna	40.00
	Dario	40.00
	Nicole	40.00

SPREADSHEET

With Cory/Ashley being knocked out, Caldarooni becomes the 2nd player with no teams left, & is basically eliminated.

So standings with a bit of extra info:

Rank	Poster	Points	Players Left
1	CDL	195	Bannan/Sara
2	TEEJ	160	Vince/Jenna & Dario/Nicole
3	Onlydo2days	80	West/Nany
4	Caldarooni	70	NONE
5	Zimmer	25	Devin/Cheyenne
6	bahbahmickey	20	NONE

She's so ****ing annoying and thinks she's some genius code cracker regarding anything and everything in life.

Wes/Nany basically have to ship next week and I believe they will. Vince is such an unbearable human being.

Can anyone explain why Christina/Nate sent Wes/Nany first? And don't say an alliance with Bananas because they are simply pawns. Wait did they even send themselves last? What a bunch of idiots.

Chart done by CHALLENGE team:

	Team	Points	Owner	Still Alive?
1	Bananas/Sarah	130	CDL	Y
2	Vince/Jenna	80	TEEJ	Y
2	Dario/Nicole	80	TEEJ	Y
4	Wes/Nany	70	Onlydo2days	Y
5	Cory/Ashley	65	Caldarooni	N
5	Nate/Christina	65	CDL	N
7	Jamie/KellyAnne	35	bahbahmickey	N
7	Devin/Cheyenne 2	35	Zimmer	Y
9	Nelson/Amanda	20	Zimmer	N
10	Johnny/Jessica	10	Onlydo2days	N
11	Tony/Camila	5	Caldarooni	N
12	Devin/Cheyenne 1	-5	bahbahmickey	N
13	Thomas/Simone	-10	bahbahmickey	N
13	Brandon/Brianna	-10	Zimmer	N
15	Leroy/Averey	-20	Zimmer	N

I have noticed its fairly common when picking order to put your team 2nd to last. This has been done on many previous seasons as well. Nate and Christina went 2nd to last.

Why they choose wes to go first and not bananas?
Its likely that they are just dumb and thought wes was low man on the totem pole pole. Not realizing the best scenario for them (outside of winning themselves) was wes or devin winning and bananas,jenna,dario losing. Then wes/devin throwing in the other 2 teams. With bananas or jenna winning that challenge, their only scenario where they don't go in, is if dario(who went last) or bananas or Jenna lost. I'm not even convinced Dario wouldn't of put them in if he had won it. Just a terrible play.

Only reason its a good play (that I can think of). Is if they know they are losing and would rather face elimination against wes or devin, instead of bananas or Jenna.

It was terrible play. But hey Nate is in love tho.

In the trivia questions Nate made it clear that he thought they were working with Bananas (although Christina obviously did not share that sentiment & that was a big part of why they got whooped), so I guess he just went with that. Just glad he's gone. Finally.

maybe I missed it, but I didn't understand the first elimination. what was the point of the person running around the rope circle thing

Yeah, I think Bananas/Sarah have told Christina/Nate they won't put them in so they put Wes last. Dumb move but herd mentality since Wes/Nany dont have much power right now

John Bannans throws Cory in. He said the agreement with Cory was null and void after he foundout Cory was working with West.

TJ once again snubbed for best reality competition host emmy #nojustice

They were tightening the cables holding up the opposing team's player.

Yea I didn't figure this out until it was over. Hated that elimination and can't really figure out how they lost it tbh, doesn't add up

Yeah, it took me a little while to figure that out too, they did a bad job explaining it.

A couple of friends and I each made a list of 10 guys/10 girls we would want in a challenge season. Get the players in their prime. Can be any mix of athletic ability/who you like/best for drama. We made the lists in like 10-15 min so admittedly forgot about some:

My list
Guys: Bananas/CT/Abram/Evan/Kenny/Landon/Darrell/Alton/Derrick/Wes
Honorable mentions: Mark (#11 and could replace Evan), Brad (v close), Timmy, Leeroy, Theo, Cyrus the virus.
I completely forgot about The Miz in my list.

Girls: Rachel/Veronica/Ev/Laurel/Coral/Susie/Jenna/Emily (crossfit)/Paula/Cooke
HM: Sarah, Jodi

Friend #1
Guys: Wes/Bananas/CT/Leeroy/Derrick/Miz/Mark/Alton/Brad/Jordan
Girls: Emily/Sarah/Jenna/Laurel/Ev/Coral/Rachel/Veronica/Paula/Katie

Friend #2
Guys: Leeroy/CT/Landon/Kenny/Ace/Johnny/Abe/Miz/Frank/Dave(RW Seattle)
Girls: Emily/Laurel/Jenna/Paula/Trichelle/Avery/Kelly Anne/Svetlana/Cameron/Coral

He got chastised for leaving Ev off the list.

Who would your guys 10 be?

your list is easily better even though u forgot Miz

Going purely to build the best season from a viewer standpoint

Abram/Dad Bod Thomas/Bananas/Kenny/Wes/CT/Miz/Derrick/Tony/Brad

Veronica/Katie/Camila/Beth/Coral/Laurel/Ev/Jenna/Kelly-Anne/Cara Maria

This was much tougher than I thought. I had to effectively waste a male spot on Dad Bod Thomas but the abram/Thomas/Cara triangle makes this easily worth it IMO.

I omitted Evan since I didn't want him bananas and Kenny to be super dominant and I think from a viewers perspective he brings the least to the table.

For the girls I have a combo of eye candy for pussy hound Tony to go after, great competitors, and mentally unstable lunatics to cause mayhem. I thought about subbing in like a peak Tina for Jenna but went against it in the end. Did this in about 5 minutes and give myself a B+ grade here, room for improvement but would be a great season.

the lack of camila in those first three lists is a big mistake

I got Camila in there as a top 3 draft pick easily.

I really like the construction of this cast, my two changes would be Landon over Brad (I think Landon offers more from a competitive perspective and I don't think he swings the power in the house in any real shape or form) and Emily over Beth. Beth is strong enough to beat a bunch of the crappy girls and that's kind of a problem from a storyline perspective because the first 5 weeks of the season is just going to be a rehash of "everyone hates Beth!" over and over, which dragged down a bunch of her seasons. Plus having Emily offers an extra girl to take a crack at Laurel-Ev is so much smaller and no one else really has the same physicality to stand up to her.

Emily over Beth is probably a good play. My logic was using Beth as an instigator there but you make good points.

Not sure about Landon over Brad. Landon is one of the best competitors in challenge history but his personality is a little bland. Peak Brad especially when drunk used to go nuts. Remember the wedgie incident? If you wanted to ramp up the competitive aspect Landon is an upgrade though for sure.

+1 to Sarah being unbearably annoying.

FRANKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK is missing from way too many of these lists.