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05-04-2016 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jcohen
with 6 people and 13 teams, can i be in for $50 and get 1 team while you all get 2?
you'd never win bc teams will accrue points just for staying in the game so anyone with neither team eliminated early will have a big edge on you.
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05-04-2016 , 02:40 PM
That's fine with me. Anyone object?

450/200 payouts. Same scoring as last season unless someone is motivated to do something better.

Edit: Ah good point cdl
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05-04-2016 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
you'd never win bc teams will accrue points just for staying in the game so anyone with neither team eliminated early will have a big edge on you.
oh i was just assuming it was whoever wins. nevermind then
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05-04-2016 , 02:44 PM
eltbro or someone who didn't just start watching the CHALLENGE in the past few years, can you group these teams into 2 tiers? top 6 and bottom 6? Leave out BANANAS and he will go to whoever is eliminated tonight.
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05-04-2016 , 02:44 PM
I'll do whatever I did last season in terms of the score if y'all want. Only took like 3 minutes a week.

If you guys want something that would actually require effort, probably should find someone else.

I can also do the rand today the same way as last time, or any other way y'all want.
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05-04-2016 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I googled mtv challenge betting or something like that and came up with the following. Again, I don't care if we just do winner take all with whoever wins the final or use this scoring and do winner take all (most points in this format) or winner and runner-up paid out.

The point system is:

First place in challenge= 25 Points
Last place in challenge= -5 Points
Winning a Dome= 10 Points
Losing a Dome= -10 Points
Surviving an episode= 5 Points
Leave the show for anything other than losing a Dome. This includes giving up in the finals= -25 Points
First place in finals= 100 Points
2nd Place in finals= 50 Points (Must cross finish line)
3rd Place in finals= 15 Points (Must cross finish line)

http://www.theclemreport.com/your-fa...of-the-exes-2/

EDIT: this is probably too much work to ask someone to do.
this is the scoring from last season. Should probably just stick with this.
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05-04-2016 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
I'll do whatever I did last season in terms of the score if y'all want. Only took like 3 minutes a week.

If you guys want something that would actually require effort, probably should find someone else.

I can also do the rand today the same way as last time, or any other way y'all want.
this works for me. Just need 2 tiers of teams so we get a tier 1 and tier 2 team for everyone.
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05-04-2016 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
eltbro or someone who didn't just start watching the CHALLENGE in the past few years, can you group these teams into 2 tiers? top 6 and bottom 6? Leave out BANANAS and he will go to whoever is eliminated tonight.
problem with not seeding bananas is a team will probably have 2 top 6 teams after the show tonight. Not sure that randomness is any worse than the other options though.
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05-04-2016 , 02:53 PM
I'd rank the teams...

Bananas & Sarah

Wes & Nany
Jamie & KellyAnne
Leroy & Averey
Vince & Jenna
Cory & Ashley
Johnny & Jessica

Dario & Nicole
Tony & Camila
Devin & Cheyenne
Thomas & Simone
Brandon & Briana
Nate & Christina

The gap is if you wanted to do the 2 tiers that way, not because I think that's where the gap is. I think bottom 3 in tier 1 & top 3 in tier 2 could go either way.
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05-04-2016 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Caldarooni
problem with not seeding bananas is a team will probably have 2 top 6 teams after the show tonight. Not sure that randomness is any worse than the other options though.
they'd be down on points though from their team getting eliminated.

I'm also fine with seeding the top 6 and then leaving an extra bottom tier team that doesnt get randed to one of us and just award them to whoever loses a team tonight. Doesn't matter to me and am cool with jmurder doing the rand either way when he feels comfortable.

I'm here to sweat the draw.
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05-04-2016 , 03:04 PM
I am okay with same scoring as last season, leaving off a random team or bananas team, and having jmurder do the scoring/ be the judge if there is some kind of twist we don't see coming.
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05-04-2016 , 03:08 PM
Looking at the lineup, it looks like another season where Wes is going to have to try to rally the rookies against Bananas' alliance.
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05-04-2016 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
I'd rank the teams...

Bananas & Sarah

Wes & Nany
Jamie & KellyAnne
Leroy & Averey
Vince & Jenna
Cory & Ashley
Johnny & Jessica

Dario & Nicole
Tony & Camila
Devin & Cheyenne
Thomas & Simone
Brandon & Briana
Nate & Christina

The gap is if you wanted to do the 2 tiers that way, not because I think that's where the gap is. I think bottom 3 in tier 1 & top 3 in tier 2 could go either way.
As a long time and impartial challenge watcher, I agree with this.
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05-04-2016 , 03:14 PM
I think the fairest solution is 6 teams in Tier I, 7 teams in Tier II, but completely up to y'all.

The Bananas sweat might trump absolute equality.
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05-04-2016 , 03:22 PM
cald, eltbro, anyone else want to weigh in?
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05-04-2016 , 03:23 PM
I'm fine with whatever. Its all random in the end.

Payouts will be 4/2
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05-04-2016 , 03:26 PM
The gap in girls is bigger than guys in these things. I would put Camilla/Tony over Johnny/Jessica. Jessica sucks and Camilla is a proven competitor.

Also, let's just seed Bananas/Sarah no? Yeah they're the team to beat but it isn't like it is CT and Emily. Bananas and his cousin were by far the favs last year and they didn't even make the final. Will they? Probably if there are no swerves since Sarah is a puzzle person but I think we gotta just let whoever gets him, get him.
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05-04-2016 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
I'd rank the teams...

Bananas & Sarah

Wes & Nany
Jamie & KellyAnne
Leroy & Averey
Vince & Jenna
Cory & Ashley
Johnny & Jessica

Dario & Nicole
Tony & Camila
Devin & Cheyenne
Thomas & Simone
Brandon & Briana
Nate & Christina
I was prepared for a disagreement! But this is actually real solid, nice list. Maybe a Dario-Nicole/Johnny-Jessica swap, but that's a toss up.


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Originally Posted by JMurder3
Looking at the lineup, it looks like another season where Wes is going to have to try to rally the rookies against Bananas' alliance.
Before watching anything, there seems to be a built-in Day 1 alliance of Johnny-Sarah/Leroy-Ave/Vince-Jenna. Pretty decent foundation.

Cory-Ashley and Jamie-KellyA could go in the Wes direction, and it seems as if its gonna be Johnny's alliance vs. all. I just think people have seen too much of Johnny and his double talk, and that Wes getting others on his side should be pretty easy.
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05-04-2016 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
The gap in girls is bigger than guys in these things. I would put Camilla/Tony over Johnny/Jessica. Jessica sucks and Camilla is a proven competitor.

Also, let's just seed Bananas/Sarah no? Yeah they're the team to beat but it isn't like it is CT and Emily. Bananas and his cousin were by far the favs last year and they didn't even make the final. Will they? Probably if there are no swerves since Sarah is a puzzle person but I think we gotta just let whoever gets him, get him.
It's a moot point if Bananas & Sarah are ranked Tier I since Johnny & Jessica would drop to Tier II. Camila is past her prime & Tony is an eggshell apparently. Like I said, those 6 in the middle are all close to me, though & I don't feel strongly about it.
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05-04-2016 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad22
I was prepared for a disagreement! But this is actually real solid, nice list. Maybe a Dario-Nicole/Johnny-Jessica swap, but that's a toss up.




Before watching anything, there seems to be a built-in Day 1 alliance of Johnny-Sarah/Leroy-Ave/Vince-Jenna. Pretty decent foundation.

Cory-Ashley and Jamie-KellyA could go in the Wes direction, and it seems as if its gonna be Johnny's alliance vs. all. I just think people have seen too much of Johnny and his double talk, and that Wes getting others on his side should be pretty easy.
Agree that Wes will obviously pick up all the new people. I do wonder if Nany gets Wes and Bananas to just come to an agreement they won't go after one another. No need for any MAD scenarios early in the game.

Bananas is also tight with Kellyanne, Camilla and Johnny R though. Just seems like a nice season for him but we will see.

@JM Why is the Camillanator past her prime? I don't get the Camilla hate, she is known as an upper-echelon girl on these things.
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05-04-2016 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtuna
As a long time and impartial challenge watcher, I agree with this.
Thx!

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I was prepared for a disagreement! But this is actually real solid, nice list. Maybe a Dario-Nicole/Johnny-Jessica swap, but that's a toss up.
Thx! Sorry for lack of major disagreement. I was tempted, but Dario proved to be such a divisive knucklehead last season I couldn't see pulling the trigger on that.

I think the tiers actually end up working out nicely as :

TIER 1:
Bananas & Sarah
Wes & Nany
Jamie & KellyAnne
Leroy & Averey
Vince & Jenna
Cory & Ashley

TIER 2:
Johnny & Jessica
Dario & Nicole
Tony & Camila
Devin & Cheyenne
Thomas & Simone
Brandon & Briana
Nate & Christina

& am ready to rand when I get the go ahead to do that (or the decree to leave out Bananas/Sarah & do the tiers the other way).
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05-04-2016 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3
I think the tiers actually end up working out nicely as :

TIER 1:
Bananas & Sarah
Wes & Nany
Jamie & KellyAnne
Leroy & Averey
Vince & Jenna
Cory & Ashley

TIER 2:
Johnny & Jessica
Dario & Nicole
Tony & Camila
Devin & Cheyenne
Thomas & Simone
Brandon & Briana
Nate & Christina

& am ready to rand when I get the go ahead to do that (or the decree to leave out Bananas/Sarah & do the tiers the other way).
Looks good to me.
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05-04-2016 , 04:03 PM
I assume any points that the 13th team gets the 1st week don't count for the person who gets them?
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05-04-2016 , 04:04 PM
Yes.
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05-04-2016 , 04:05 PM
None of the AYTO teams seem any good.

Watched an interview where the Brandon guy said that he is a huge fan of the show and always wanted to be on, knows the castmembers more than he thinks. That is an interesting dynamic potentially.
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