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Old 03-13-2011, 12:36 AM   #3651
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

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Old 03-13-2011, 12:48 AM   #3652
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

i hate both so much, but i think i hate Mayorga more, so rooting for cotto
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:08 AM   #3653
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Impressive performance by Sergio. Two entertaining fights on HBO. How's the Cotto-Mayorga fight?
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:10 AM   #3654
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Martinez KO's Dzinziruk in the 8th. 5 knockdowns total for Martinez. Dzinziruk was game and threw a bunch of punches but was only effective when Martinez took round 7 off.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:11 AM   #3655
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The Bradley-Alexander fight withstanding, there have been some great finishes to the fights over the last 4 months or so.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:14 AM   #3656
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Mayorga fights like a tilted donk
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:18 AM   #3657
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Cotto killing him?
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:20 AM   #3658
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Cotto knocks him down in round 12 with a viscous left hook. Mayorga may have broken his own left hand. Ref stops fight
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:20 AM   #3659
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it's over in the 12th Cotto win, Mayorga quit on his feet.

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Old 03-13-2011, 01:20 AM   #3660
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lol Mayorga. Was the fight competitive?
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:23 AM   #3661
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Hardly. Cotto was just beating him with fundamentals. Mayorga had a couple rounds landing some pretty solid shots, but that's about it. Finally got caught with that left hook that was landing all night
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:26 AM   #3662
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lol, Mayorga said in the interview he couldn't make a fist so he had to stop, then he proceded to make fists with both hands to salute the crowd.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:27 AM   #3663
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i hate both so much, but i think i hate Mayorga more, so rooting for cotto
wtf is there to hate about Cotto?
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:08 PM   #3664
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It always surprises me that Max Kellerman can form coherent sentences, given the fact that he has his lips wrapped round Roy Jones's ****.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:34 PM   #3665
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:00 PM   #3666
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Martinez put on an electric show of daring quickness, hand speed, and power punching combinations last night against an opponent many thought was practically impossible to look good against. As one of the most entertaining boxers in the business today Sergio surely deserves a PPV payday against somebody. The question is who?

I'm not sure he understood the translated question when asked after the fight if he cared about the "pound for pound" rankings vis a vis Mayweather and Pacquiao. He replied yes, he wants to fight the best and wants to go up against Manny and PBF. That's not going to happen. And you don't prove your pound for pound chops by fighting guys a full division below you. While I would prefer to see a middleweight emerge to present him with a real challenge, the PPV pot of gold may lie further up the hill against Andre Ward. Is Martinez good enough to solve Andre Ward or is that a reach too far? I don't know but I do know that's a fight I would pay to watch.


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Old 03-13-2011, 04:36 PM   #3667
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Andre Ward isn't available for a while and it looks like Showtime have plans to match the winner of the Super six against Lucian Bute so I can't see Maravilla (love that nickname) moving up.
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:32 PM   #3668
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I hope that next Bute fight takes place at the Bell Centre, definitely think I'll make the trip.

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Old 03-13-2011, 08:23 PM   #3669
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So if Kirkland can stay out of jail and put some wins together this year, will GBP try to rush him back to serious contender status and angle for a Martinez fight a t the end of the year or first of next?
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:26 PM   #3670
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kirkland prob won't win against martinez. Martinez vs mayweather would be a good matchup @ 154. Prolly won't happen cause martinez is more dangerous than pacquiao.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:54 PM   #3671
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It's frustrating with Mayweather, he has a LOT of detractors but if he signed to fight with Martinez he would get a heap of credit and silence so many of his doubters. The fact that he has only fought at 154 once, against de la Hoya who was far past his best, and that Martinez is just very very good, make the fight so unlikely that it's probably not even worth talking about.

Maybe we have to wait until Mayweather's bank balance is crippled by his gambling problem for him to be in such fights.
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Old 03-14-2011, 09:59 PM   #3672
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Martinez vs Ward a PPV hit? I doubt it does more that 400k buys. It would probably be on regular HBO/showtime if was ever done. IMO, Ward won't fill any place up except Oakland, even then I don't think it was a sell out. Are there many who know about Ward? Martinez knows the big money is with the fighters he calls out. No one at 168 comes close.
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:02 PM   #3673
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Mayweather would never fight Martinez before locking down his massive payday with Pacquiao first. Martinez is too much of a legitimate threat to his undefeated record and there's no way in hell Mayweather's camp is that stupid. I refuse to believe it.

OTOH, weight division logistics aside and assuming all things equal, I could see Pacquiao's camp being far more willing to entertain a fight with Martinez if they became sufficiently frustrated with Mayweather's camp post-Mosley. But I think that's just a touch too heavy for Pac, so it's a moot point.
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:48 PM   #3674
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Neither will fight Martinez, it's just silly to even think about it.

Mayweather has shown in the past he won't fight a guy as good as Martinez without getting enough money to warrant it. If he won't fight Pacquiao there is no chance in hell he will fight a better fighter for less than half the pay.

Pacquiao and his camp has shown very clearly they think a fight vs Martinez is completely ridiculous and just not realistic.
They like to chant about "omg super welterweight champ of the world, better than henry ****ing armstrong!!!! Manny PACMAN Pacquiao" but in all honesty, he could not hang with a truly skilled 154+ guy like Martinez.

I think for Martinez, if he wants a big payday and career-defining fight, he needs to look at the super6 winner or possibly even Hopkins if hes successful in his rematch with Pascal.
Cotto/Margarito winner for a 154 strap could be fine too, but their status in the boxingworld just isn't what it used to be.
Shane Mosley would fight Martinez in a heartbeat if he pulls out the miracle against Pac, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Simply put. Neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao have the balls to fight Martinez. Not considering their current position and status in this current boxingworld.

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Martinez vs Ward a PPV hit? I doubt it does more that 400k buys. It would probably be on regular HBO/showtime if was ever done. IMO, Ward won't fill any place up except Oakland, even then I don't think it was a sell out. Are there many who know about Ward? Martinez knows the big money is with the fighters he calls out. No one at 168 comes close.
Yeah, lol. Ward has zero draw. And he deserves just that, the way he is fighting.
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:38 AM   #3675
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Manny watches Maravilla call him out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk_-Z...layer_embedded
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