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06-25-2012 , 09:20 PM
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SPL 'No' Vote Conspiracy Theory

Seven SPL clubs have now made public their intentions to vote 'no' to the Rangers newco. But is it all just a big conspiracy?

Ok, this is going to sound barking mad and perhaps desperate but I think I've worked it out. If you like a conspiracy theory then listen to this one.

That's SEVEN SPL clubs who have now publicly stated that they are going to vote against allowing the Rangers newco into the SPL. But... what if the vote comes along on July 4th and Rangers get a shock victory?

Could all these clubs coming out in public and saying they're going to say no just be a plot? If they all vote yes and the vote is kept secret, how do we know which clubs said yes and which said no? We don't.

Therefore the clubs save face with their fans, the fans buy the season tickets and the clubs still get the gate receipts etc generated by playing Rangers. The fans can't prove that their club said yes. It's crazy but you just never know.

Let's just see how the vote really goes on July 4th. Yeah I know it's unlikely but it all just seems a little odd to me that they are all coming out now and telling us all how they're going to vote
http://www.rangers.vitalfootball.co....e.asp?a=529828

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06-25-2012 , 10:27 PM
I'm a happy Celtic fan and months ago I thought it was a stonewall certainty for them to stay in the SPL. It is truly incredible they're out imo.

They could've avoided this loads of times.

-By not appealing the meaningless transfer ban (then they could argue 'hey, we're guilty and been punished'). Rather than annoying rival fans with a £100 million plus scam then getting off with scotfree. I was overjoyed when I heard they successfully appealed it along with a few mates. Big deal, they can sign a few mediocre players presuming they even found the cash.

-Just a bit more regret from Green and McCoist and everyone else to do Rangers. All I ever heard was; 'this'll be a disaster for Scottish game', 'the gers will boycott grounds if we don't get what we want', 'it's no us'. This argument, that you need to let us back in the SPL because it's good for you. This is similiar to saying to a domestic abuse victim, 'we can't jail your husband for battery because he occasionaly buys you some food sometimes'. With a touch more contrition from RFC they would've stayed in.

Good riddance. I'm barely a football fan at all tbh (barely watch any games) and hoped Rangers demise would help rid Glasgow of a bit of its sectarianism problems. Thinking about it, RFC in third division might make it worse. You'll have all these buggers with a siege mentality, they're all against us, only one true Loyal team (borderline sectarian usage right there imo) how they stick Loyal into everything.

Their chat and messageboard denial and my own inklings about the future makes me think the next few years are going to be a nightmare on football days/orange walks. LolGlasgowments :-( (Damn! How do you do a headbutting smiley hahaha)
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06-26-2012 , 06:59 PM
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06-27-2012 , 01:03 PM
Copa Libertadores Final on tonight(Corinthians v Boca Juniors) @ 8:50PM EST/5:50PM PST

Probable formations below(it's in Portuguese)



A bit of humor(below).



I'll be rooting for Boca, because of their trequartista Juan Román Riquelme.

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06-27-2012 , 02:11 PM
Can you translate any of this into Scotch?

Also, how would either side line up against Cowdenbeath?
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06-27-2012 , 06:05 PM
lol
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06-28-2012 , 01:07 AM
Did either club vote no to newco?
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06-28-2012 , 07:48 AM
Looks like the Newco club is gonna go straight into Division 1. What a complete joke.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18625293

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The main points of proposal documentation viewed by BBC Scotland are:

- Rangers are to be relegated with immediate effect and replaced in the SPL by Dundee.

- Television rights for Rangers matches in Scottish Football League Division One are to be bought by the SPL for £1m.

-The SPL and SFL will merge into one body at the start of season 2013-14.

- Play-offs between the top two divisions will be introduced in time for the coming season with one team from the top flight and three from the second tier competing for a place in the following season's SPL.

- There will be an increase in the parachute payments made to clubs relegated from the SPL.

- Changes will be made to the distribution model for clubs in the top two tiers with teams in the lower leagues earning a similar amount to the current set-up.

- A new pyramid system will become effective from season 2014-15 that will allow a potential place in the new league format for a team from either the Highland league or newly-created 'Lowland League'.

- Rangers newco's acceptance into the Scottish FA would only be approved if they accept responsibility for the football debts and fines incurred by the pervious club along with their waiving of rights to a legal challenge.
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06-28-2012 , 02:46 PM
lol BBC reporting is a joke.

i'll take a small bet that no new rangers play in any league from DIV3 to SPL next season.
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06-28-2012 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by martymc1
lol BBC reporting is a joke.

i'll take a small bet that no new rangers play in any league from DIV3 to SPL next season.
evens? name your stake and consider it booked!
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06-28-2012 , 05:50 PM
you're too confident, you're only getting £20 now

booked.
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06-28-2012 , 06:41 PM
Cool, hope you win btw!
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06-30-2012 , 12:47 PM
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Turnbull Hutton on RS:

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It totally misses where the normal football fan is. Scottish football has been based on, or should be based on honest sporting endeavour. There should be reward for the good sides, relegation for the bad sides, but the fans should come along and see something that is at least honest. But the word corrupt is now being bandied about and I have difficulty arguing against that.

It appeared only a couple of weeks ago that the SFL in particular were talking about processes, they had due processes to be followed and all the rest of it. Do you now sense that might be being dispatched with? The rules might be changed midstream to accommodate a Rangers newco?

It certainly looks that way on the face of it. We have got the meeting on Tuesday and no doubt hopefully things will become clear. But I am a supporter of the SFL. Since the SPL was formed, I think it was formed on the greed is good mould. I think that was a disaster for Scottish football. It started off badly and it has fallen away. It is a flawed organisation. They are trying to defend the indefensible. So given all that, those of us who were in the Scottish Football League, with all its problems of money and lower crowds and everything else, I thought that we were kind of the bastion of sporting integrity. And my disappointment is now that the SFL, which I supported, and was a fan of, and thought that there was some integrity, if we are now at this stage of bending rules and accommodating, and threatening, and blackmailing, we want to give up.

Why do you think that is happening? Do you feel that the SFL board have let the clubs and indeed the fans down with their approach here? Do you think there is an element of people perhaps jockeying for positions of power in the future?

Well, I think... I accept absolutely that there is a lot of pressure being applied on various people. Maybe the organisation that is responsible for these so called diddy teams feel under pressure from the mighty SFA and the mighty SPL. And there is a big issue with Rangers. But the Rangers meltdown has nothing whatsoever to do with the first division clubs. It has never been our problem. And yet it seems to me that there has been an abdication of the SPL sorting it out in the first place, the SFA wading in, but actually not doing anything. Oh, now we will just punt it to the SFL and let them sort it out. And just to help the process along, why don't we try to blackmail them, and frighten them? It is bizarre.

Is that how you see it, that this is an attempt to coerce and blackmail clubs?

Absolutely, absolutely. That threat... Whoever is behind the threat that says if you don't vote in favour of this, the threat is that we will set up an SPL 2 and we're going to invite clubs to the SPL 2 and if you voted against that we're not going to invite you. What kind of organisation is that? There is a lot more realism in the management of the diddy leagues, as we are led to believe, than I am seeing leadership in the SFA or SPL.

Do you think positions of certain individuals in all of these bodies are now untenable, the SPL, the SFA, the SFL?

I would hope so.

Can you see heads rolling?

I would hope so.

Where is the proper place for this new company Rangers, assuming they do re-emerge as a football club? Where is the proper place? Is it to reapply to the third division?

That is my view. That is what the rules of the SFL say. If they are coming down to the SFL they should apply and, you know, start from there. And I think... I honestly believe that there is a huge number of Rangers supporters who have been horrified at what has gone on. It is their life. But having slowly, bit by bit, come to terms... There is a whole raft of them saying, disaster, but we will start again, we will work our way up through the league, it will take us two or three years. It is not a great problem and we would get back and at least we will have taken our punishment, our dignity is intact, we can look the rest of football in the face and say, right, we can move on from here. And I would admire them for that.

Final question, do you think that the proposals that came out yesterday will see the light of day? Will these proposals be pushed through or will they be consigned to the bin by a combination of clubs and fans who think they lack fairness and transparency?

I hope they will. I believe they will, yes, yes.
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07-04-2012 , 11:44 AM
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/sto...ish-top-league

no top league for rangers, may go down to division 3
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07-04-2012 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mutigers5591
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/sto...ish-top-league

no top league for rangers, may go down to division 3
Good.

Hopefully they do.
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07-04-2012 , 07:19 PM
Hopefully they don't. Their application for the 3rd division should be included with Spartans and any other amateur club that wants to join the show and they should have to show 3 years accounts to be permitted to join the league, failure to do so should result in them going straight to the juniors.

Juniors it is
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07-04-2012 , 07:21 PM
lol @ rangers people being annoyed at the players leaving the club. Are they serious?

I saw some dude on SSN calling them a disgrace what not. What a tit.

If this was being done right they should be made start lower down the league ladder than Division 3 IMO
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07-04-2012 , 07:24 PM
Yes he was serious and yes he is a very bitter and twisted tit.
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07-04-2012 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
lol @ rangers people being annoyed at the players leaving the club. Are they serious?

I saw some dude on SSN calling them a disgrace what not. What a tit.

If this was being done right they should be made start lower down the league ladder than Division 3 IMO
There is no where lower than that. Scotland doesn't have a pyramid league.

Anyway ****ing brilliant day. And soon, without their brothers in bigotry, Celtic will be bust as well.
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07-05-2012 , 12:11 AM
Oh yeah, that's just what the Scottish game needs. The last remaining cash cow to die. Foolproof plan.
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07-05-2012 , 01:55 AM
Please direct me to a good place to read Rangers fan butthurt. I think I would enjoy that.
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07-05-2012 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
Please direct me to a good place to read Rangers fan butthurt. I think I would enjoy that.


Rangers media forum, more bile than butthurt but still funny.

Alternatively you could try 'kerrydale street hun thread', loads of laughs and not much bile. They'll highlight any hun butthurt in there

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07-12-2012 , 05:23 AM
RIP hunskelper Joe McBride.

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Big day tomorrow for the huns, no chance they get into any of the professional leagues IMO and even if they do there will be court cases galore to stop them.

Sad to say this but it is almost true, MLS>>>>>SPL if the huns get approved to play football next season.
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07-12-2012 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Geddy Lee
You're making a huge assumption here; that the dip in quality of the product doesn't deter top quality players from coming to or staying with Celtic.

Not to mention CL will never be a guarantee considering how terrible the coefficient is right now. That won't change any time soon, SPL champs will always have to play in and that means it's a coinflip at best.
Our co-efficient was dropping this year as a result of how the OF have done in the CL and it won't be changing any time soon. We are in no danger of gaining any European places, but then we're not in danger of losing any more either. We're about as stable as they come in that regard.

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Originally Posted by BackFromABannin
I think this is what the vast majority of 'tic fans want and have wanted for some time but despite the clubs best efforts we're no closer to it happening and I doubt we'll see it anytime soon.

With Rangers going the way they have I think it's got a lot of fans thinking that a move south should be what the club is pushing for now more than ever but I'm just not sure what more the club can do.

Also commiserations on Croatias exit Geddy
This old chestnut again. They really are two cheeks of the same proverbial arse. Scottish football has a real opportunity here to put to rights the financial disparity that has made the league boring and unappealling to anyone other than prot/cath bigots for years now. If Celtic choose to pursue football elsewhere(which is ridiculous in itself and has already received the thumbs down from English clubs) then it proves they are no better than the hun money men at the SFA/SPL who are trying to shoehorn Sevco back in with as little fuss and punishment as possible.

This could be amazing, having a real chance to win for all of the so called small clubs could see fans back in numbers. I know Aberdeen on the basis of Stewart Milne's position have sold more season tickets than they have for the last five years, and with 4 weeks still to go until the start of the season.

Everyone at the top is sad to see the huns die, not least their green sided bedfellows, but for the rest of us it's a chance to restore some much needed dignity to the league. Even if it is tough the short term, which of course remains to be seen.
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07-12-2012 , 07:37 AM
Will need some proof of Celtic's sadness at their demise before I can believe it.

Best I can tell is the club are in agreement with what has to be a massive majority of the fans, they're glad to be rid of the cheats.

Have 0 problems with better distribution of TV cash and would instantly buy into spl TV, evenly splitting Celtic's home gate money with clubs that bring fans numbered in the 100's has to be a non starter tho.
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