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01-03-2010 , 03:40 AM
osu had an easy pick on oregons first drive that the dude dropped. shoulda been 6 really.
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01-03-2010 , 03:48 AM
i dont see how you can call the posey td flukey. good throw, good catch. if oregon makes a similar play no one would ever call it lucky.

i dont see how prior breaking tackles is flukey. thats what he does. thats his best attribute. sorry but oregon tacklers are not on the level big10 anyway. those are easy plays for prior.

if it plays out exactly opposite, everyone would be ripping on osu and saying they suck.
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01-03-2010 , 03:50 AM
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they suck.
amen.
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01-03-2010 , 03:51 AM
you and grear really make it easy to hate on michigan when my natural inclination is to just feel sorry for them.
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01-03-2010 , 04:14 AM
posey TD was not flukey at all

beautiful back shoulder toss to a big WR one-on-one against a DB along the sideline
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01-03-2010 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
you and grear really make it easy to hate on michigan when my natural inclination is to just feel sorry for them.
do whatever.

even a handful of reality-minded osu fans won't/can't change my opinion of the teeming masses i deal with on a daily basis.
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01-03-2010 , 10:29 AM
Of course the Posey TD was flukey. Name the last time Pryor threw a ball that good.
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01-03-2010 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
i dont see how you can call the posey td flukey. good throw, good catch. if oregon makes a similar play no one would ever call it lucky.

i dont see how prior breaking tackles is flukey. thats what he does. thats his best attribute. sorry but oregon tacklers are not on the level big10 anyway. those are easy plays for prior.

if it plays out exactly opposite, everyone would be ripping on osu and saying they suck.
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Originally Posted by JaredL
There were a handful of huge plays or potentially huge plays that all went Ohio State's way. They weren't necessarily fluky, but if you look at things like...
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01-03-2010 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
Of course the Posey TD was flukey. Name the last time Pryor threw a ball that good.
how 'bout the 1st qtr pass to Posey that Posey dropped?

Pryor made a great checkdown to his 4th option and hit him in stride perfectly so that the Buckeyes could get the first TD

then, there was the beautiful bomb with touch on the wheel route down the sideline

Pryor throws some really good balls from time-to-time. His main issue is that he will also throw some real ugly balls.

However, that pass to Posey wasn't flukey at all. It's clear that route was something worked on quite a bit in the bowl practices.
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01-03-2010 , 05:59 PM
Jared, were you in section 10? Some of us were in that section, there was four of us in row4 in section 11, in the Ohio St section. It did seem most of the action was going away from us ... like most of the fourth especially. We were right inline with the kicker and the goalpost for the final FG attempt, I was in shock that Kelly actually kicked it and from my sight line new it was wide immediately.

It took us too long to get from 50 feet outside the stadium to our seats. The concourse isn't deep enough to handle the number of people and not enough tunnels to get to the seating.

Prior seemed the difference in the game, just made so many plays and converted so many 3rd downs. The Blount fumble really hurt. We couldn't tell from where we were seated that James had left the sidelines due to injury.

All the fans were great, OSU fans were great. Looked like about 50/50 split, I didn't expect OSU to travel that well. Lots of 2 or 4 green in OSU sections but also lots of red in Oregon sections. Our section 11 stood the entire game, only sat at halftime. During the final time killer drive in the 4th, OSU killed those long TV timeouts with their O-H-I-O chant that was loud.
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01-03-2010 , 07:05 PM
RIP "RIP Big 10"

Jan 8 2007 - Jan 1 2010
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01-03-2010 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankieBigNuts
ohio st fan here but i think oregon wins at least 65% of the time.

the blount fumble completely changed the game, the interception 25 sec before the half didnt help
There's no way anyone wins that 65% of the time. They were two evenly matched teams. I would take Ohio State straight up in a rematch as well. Oregon's explosive offense is 100% a product of playing Pac-10 defenses.
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01-03-2010 , 09:01 PM
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There's no way anyone wins that 65% of the time. They were two evenly matched teams. I would take Ohio State straight up in a rematch as well. Oregon's explosive offense is 100% a product of playing Pac-10 defenses.
no they just shot themselves in the foot with turnovers and james got hurt and missed some key drives. they are definitely an elite offense, albeit mistake prone.
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01-03-2010 , 09:57 PM
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Jared, were you in section 10? Some of us were in that section, there was four of us in row4 in section 11, in the Ohio St section.
Yeah section 10. If you went up the stairs behind the tunnel I was on the right side. Looking down the Oregon sideline I was between the bench and wall where the stands start.

I think there were more Ohio State fans tbh. There was one section that was about 50/50 right around the goal-line in the Oregon half of the crowd at our end. While there were some duck fans in their section, nothing like that. I don't think it was 60/40 or anything, but probably something like 53/47. That was another weird thing since they said at the pep rally that we had bought some of their tickets. I guess that was just lies and propaganda or some kind of misunderstanding.

I thought Ohio State fans were loud and had impressive numbers but were extremely douchy considering it was a bowl game against a team they hadn't played since the Reagan administration. The level of **** talking and random insults the days leading up to the game, and that day before and after were about what I would expect in a rivalry game or at least within the conference against an opponent with some history. I think Oregon fans are pretty bad as far as that goes, but we're not even close if that game is any indication. I had the same feeling when I was in New Orleans a few years ago when they lost the national title game to LSU.
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01-03-2010 , 10:19 PM
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no they just shot themselves in the foot with turnovers and james got hurt and missed some key drives. they are definitely an elite offense, albeit mistake prone.
They averaged 200 yards less in this game than they did the rest of the season. Can't all be from mistakes.
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01-03-2010 , 10:24 PM
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There's no way anyone wins that 65% of the time. They were two evenly matched teams. I would take Ohio State straight up in a rematch as well. Oregon's explosive offense is 100% a product of playing Pac-10 defenses.
pretty certain ohio st doesn't.

too many things went just right for them.

not so good this year hoping for much better next.

they almost lost to navy, got beat at home to USC, get destroyed by purdue, get outplayed in every way against wisconsin except the score, almost lose to iowa at home against freshman qb, played solid against Penn st tho



oregon too explosive
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01-03-2010 , 10:58 PM
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i hate ohio state.

run hotter than...than.....whatever runs reeeeally hot.
hate or envy?

not sure if playing in 8 BCS games is "running hot" or the result of a pretty solid program... regardless i'll take it.
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01-04-2010 , 12:02 PM
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no they just shot themselves in the foot with turnovers and james got hurt and missed some key drives. they are definitely an elite offense, albeit mistake prone.
2 turnovers to 1 turnover is not really anything huge. Yes, it makes somewhat of a difference. Not 9 points of difference. Getting beat 4-0 on turnovers is shooting yourself in the foot. James was pretty much a non-factor the whole game. He had one big run, and besides that was 2.9 ypc.

Mistakes certainly didn't help Oregon, but they really didn't make a huge difference. They just found it tough to operate with constant penetration into the backfield, and could not consistently move the ball. They also could not stop Pryor at all, which kept their offense off the field.
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01-04-2010 , 12:04 PM
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hate or envy?

not sure if playing in 8 BCS games is "running hot" or the result of a pretty solid program... regardless i'll take it.
It's also the result of playing in a weak conference. It's the same way USC went to 7 BCS games. Then again, Michigan plays in the same weak conference, and can't even make any bowl games.
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01-04-2010 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
2 turnovers to 1 turnover is not really anything huge. Yes, it makes somewhat of a difference. Not 9 points of difference. Getting beat 4-0 on turnovers is shooting yourself in the foot. James was pretty much a non-factor the whole game. He had one big run, and besides that was 2.9 ypc.
Oregon killed themselves with costly penalties moreso than turnovers.
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01-04-2010 , 12:18 PM
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Oregon killed themselves with costly penalties moreso than turnovers.
7 for 59 yards vs.
5 for 39 yards

Not really a huge difference IMO. When your offense struggles, the penalties hurt more. When your offense is cutting through a team like swiss cheese, it doesn't matter as much, so maybe that's why the 59 felt like a ton more than the 39.

You know what hurt them? 9 for 20 passing. If they only would have recruited a top QB prospect like Pryor instead of a scrub from junior college like Masoli.
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01-04-2010 , 12:25 PM
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they almost lost to navy, got beat at home to USC, get destroyed by purdue, get outplayed in every way against wisconsin except the score, almost lose to iowa at home against freshman qb, played solid against Penn st tho
purdue game our defense was on the field for about 30 mins of the first 3 quarters, completely gassed by the lack of an offensive line and the 5 turnovers the offense had.

the rest of those games i'm not even going to respond to because they all won 10 games (with the exception of usc who imo would have won 10+ if it wasnt for injury)
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01-04-2010 , 12:30 PM
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purdue game our defense was on the field for about 30 mins of the first 3 quarters, completely gassed by the lack of an offensive line and the 5 turnovers the offense had.

the rest of those games i'm not even going to respond to because they all won 10 games (with the exception of usc who imo would have won 10+ if it wasnt for injury)
The "almost lost to Navy" is quite funny since Navy never at any point was more than 40% to win the game. But they look at the box score and think it was actually a close game.
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01-04-2010 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
7 for 59 yards vs.
5 for 39 yards

Not really a huge difference IMO. When your offense struggles, the penalties hurt more. When your offense is cutting through a team like swiss cheese, it doesn't matter as much, so maybe that's why the 59 felt like a ton more than the 39.

You know what hurt them? 9 for 20 passing. If they only would have recruited a top QB prospect like Pryor instead of a scrub from junior college like Masoli.
it felt as if they had more penalties

they got a facemask penalty when they had us pinned down at the 2 yrd line (lead to fg)
another facemask (this must have been the phantom penalty) on a 3rd and 5 when pryor only rushed for 1 yard (lead to fg)
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01-04-2010 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
2 turnovers to 1 turnover is not really anything huge. Yes, it makes somewhat of a difference. Not 9 points of difference. Getting beat 4-0 on turnovers is shooting yourself in the foot. James was pretty much a non-factor the whole game. He had one big run, and besides that was 2.9 ypc.

Mistakes certainly didn't help Oregon, but they really didn't make a huge difference. They just found it tough to operate with constant penetration into the backfield, and could not consistently move the ball. They also could not stop Pryor at all, which kept their offense off the field.
Mostly the spot where Oregon shot themselves in the foot was on third down (both offensively and defensively). If third down conversion rates regress to the mean, and all else remains the same about that game, Oregon probably wins. That's not to say Ohio State didn't do a good job of disrupting the offense, but you definitely can't look at that game and say "Oregon can't move the ball on Ohio State, Oregon's offense is a product of playing bad defenses, etcetera." They play ten times, Oregon scores 40+ at least 2-3 of those games, and gets held to <17 maybe once or twice. Average result is that Oregon scores more than they did on this given instance.

As for James, even when he wasn't actually breaking big runs himself, he was drawing a lot of attention. There is legitimate correlation between James' struggles, and the success of plays like Barner's fly sweep. With James off the field the offense was noticeably weaker because Blount doesn't have the same kind of breakaway threat, and so the defense was able to play a little more toward stopping Masoli, a little bit more toward watching the other weapons, without getting burned by it. Yeah, they shut James down very well, but they did it by actively trying to shut James down, specifically.
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