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06-24-2010 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sumpy
The scalability argument is crap. there are fields out there without goals, and people play with a bag and a jacket marking the goal posts. When was the last time someone had to serve a suspension in a playground match for having accumulated yellow cards. The world cup requires that the games be played with three balls that costs $110 each. This would be just as out of reach of some poor youth leagues as a scoreboard that displays the official time.

Everyone makes due with the best that they have. Just because a youth league can't afford something is no reason that they can't have it in the world cup.

(That said, I don't think there is anything wrong with the way clocks are done in soccer.)
lol
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06-24-2010 , 05:04 PM
The problem with the fresh perspective from the casual fan is that he tends to not fully understand the game, and see problems when they actually aren't any (clock stoppage for instance.)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and that's why FIFA would never consider some of the changes proposed in this thread.

I have never met a soccer fan who had a problem with the injury time or with the offside rules (at least in the way seen as problematic in this thread).

On the other hand, the real problems of the game are consistenly debated among soccer fans (video review/passive offside rules), and suggestions to improve these problems would probably not be received by a condescending response.

Sometimes, this discussions are actually productive and FIFA actually implement new rules to improve the game, (see the likely end of the double punishment (penalty+ redcard for foul in the area)...
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06-24-2010 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
Again, the scaling argument makes no sense. I'm pretty sure that pickup soccer games play differently than a World Cup match regardless of how they keep the time. How is going from zero refs to one ref plus two linesman an example of scaling while going from zero refs to one ref, two linesman, a timekeeper and a video reviewer not? It's a distinction without merit.
One ref plus two linesmen can be maintained even in the tiniest amateur leagues. You might not have them on the school yard, but they will be there in organized games, even for young kids.

Video reviewing on the other hand wouldn't even be possible for all national leagues, nor for many international games.
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06-24-2010 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
what, penalties are terribad. sudden death is much better. why would you want the end of a tie game to be decided by pk's? it's exactly the same as going to a free throw shooting contest to end basketball games. awful.
no, not even close, PK's are awesome when your team is not involved and I'm pretty sure they can kill you if your team is involved.
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06-24-2010 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by horizon
The problem with the fresh perspective from the casual fan is that he tends to not fully understand the game, and see problems when they actually aren't any (clock stoppage for instance.)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and that's why FIFA would never consider some of the changes proposed in this thread.

I have never met a soccer fan who had a problem with the injury time or with the offside rules (at least in the way seen as problematic in this thread).

On the other hand, the real problems of the game are consistenly debated among soccer fans (video review/passive offside rules), and suggestions to improve these problems would probably not be received by a condescending response.

Sometimes, this discussions are actually productive and FIFA actually implement new rules to improve the game, (see the likely end of the double punishment (penalty+ redcard for foul in the area)...
Yeah, the idea that someone would get goals called back that would decide a game on something that is nearly impossible to tell in real time is preposterous! If it's not broke, don't fix it!

And there are problems with the clock stoppage - it's the morons who pretend like they've been hit by trucks to stall and waste time.
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06-24-2010 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dryice420
the greatest thing about watching soccer for me as an american is the complete lack of over the top comercial breaks.. take for instance ncaa basketball, 2x20 minute halves, built in comercial breaks 16,12,8,4,2,1 minutes in each half.. plus all the timeouts that coaches take. i love sitting and watching a soccer match and not having to deal with that.. god forbid the nba is in a close game where 15 seconds can literally be 10+ minutes of comercials.

just one reason why i would hate to see them adding a time stop.
seriously this is the best thing soccer has that US sports doesn't

it takes 2hrs on the dvr with halftime and 90mins of gametime, a baseketball game takes 2.5+ for 60mins, NFL takes 3-3.5 for 60mins

the more I've watched soccer the more I like the setup, I wish they could do something to lessen the diving and stalling but that's about it
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06-24-2010 , 05:46 PM
nothing wrong with PKs imo. if ur better than ur opponents then beat them over 120 mins. if u cant u dont deserve anything better than a coinflip.
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06-24-2010 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
what, penalties are terribad. sudden death is much better. why would you want the end of a tie game to be decided by pk's? it's exactly the same as going to a free throw shooting contest to end basketball games. awful.
They got rid of sudden death or "golden goal" a while ago fwiw.
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06-24-2010 , 05:53 PM
I liked the golden goal. Pretty intense imo

I'm pro bringing back golden goal + penalties after the golden goal time
I'm pro stopping time everytime the game is stopped and playing 2x40 or 2x35 minutes (probably 2x40). Once the regular time is over the game stops on the next change of posession. Just because the time is stopped doesn't mean commercials need to be shown
I'm pro video review for goals, red cards and if it works also do offside etc..it usually takes about 5 seconds untill they show the first replay with the offside graphic so just have an extra TV ref that is hooked up to the ref crew via headset
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06-24-2010 , 05:56 PM
Futbol without continuous clock would be absolutely awful. Who cares if there should be a minute or two more or less played.
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06-24-2010 , 05:57 PM
it has to change for the golden goal, i dont see how it can be any different on such a big stage
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06-24-2010 , 06:01 PM
Video review would suck as well. I'd get bored ****less in the stadium waiting for the call. It just doesn't work with a continuous clock. Also, singing chants about the ref's mom is fun and keeps you busy when your team isn't winning.
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06-24-2010 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
Lol here come all the one time World Cup watchers with their suggestions on how to change the game

AGAIN
This.

You guys honestly need to watch other games.. It's been played like this for decades. Why change the game?

If a ref makes a stupid call, get over it and battle for the next goal.
Technology will ruin the game and it will end up like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vJn5...layer_embedded
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06-24-2010 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigindiemen
Video review would suck as well. I'd get bored ****less in the stadium waiting for the call. It just doesn't work with a continuous clock. Also, singing chants about the ref's mom is fun and keeps you busy when your team isn't winning.
So let the clock run and add on an extra minute for a review, just like 954258532 other things.

Also, replays offer great chances to sing about referee's mothers.
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06-24-2010 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
So let the clock run and add on an extra minute for a review, just like 954258532 other things.

Also, replays offer great chances to sing about referee's mothers.
This is just a stupid idea and I hope it is never implemented into the game.
Soccer is a continuous game and there should never be reviews it ruins the game and the drama.
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06-24-2010 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DCIAce
No Rugby player has ever been injured. One got shot by a sniper and stayed down for 30 seconds once, and all his teammates called him a pussy after the game.
lol no in rugby a common tactic is to use fake blood capsules/ketchup to get guys taken off the field so that a team can bring on a better kicker.
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06-24-2010 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HajiShirazu
lol no in rugby a common tactic is to use fake blood capsules/ketchup to get guys taken off the field so that a team can bring on a better kicker.
[ ] common tactic

[x] rugby players still call the ref "sir" and despite kicking the **** out of each other for 80 minutes, clap each other off the field and get together after the game for beer and banter
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06-24-2010 , 06:13 PM
sorry if this has been mentioned and i missed it but how about they get rid of offsides, more goals would be scored and it would be more fun to watch.
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06-24-2010 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
sorry if this has been mentioned and i missed it but how about they get rid of offsides, more goals would be scored and it would be more fun to watch.
No. For an infinite amount of reasons
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06-24-2010 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BASaint
nothing wrong with PKs imo. if ur better than ur opponents then beat them over 120 mins. if u cant u dont deserve anything better than a coinflip.
That's idiotic. You shouldn't end elimination games by something that isn't soccer. I have the same problem with CFB overtime, at least there it's still something resembling football (still awful). There's no reason to suddenly start PK's as there is also no reason to start shooting FT's after 2 overtimes in basketball.
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06-24-2010 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
sorry if this has been mentioned and i missed it but how about they get rid of offsides, more goals would be scored and it would be more fun to watch.
you cant be serious.

if you are: no and no to both points.
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06-24-2010 , 06:18 PM
We would have Isner - Mahut like long games without PK's. And it would be nowhere near as exciting.
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06-24-2010 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
That's idiotic. You shouldn't end elimination games by something that isn't soccer. I have the same problem with CFB overtime, at least there it's still something resembling football (still awful). There's no reason to suddenly start PK's as there is also no reason to start shooting FT's after 2 overtimes in basketball.
Ok, what about hockey?

- Honestly, I really like CFB overtime.
- NFL overtime is a ****ing joke for the same reason that coinflipping in soccer would be ******ed.
- I like that baseball just kinda GOES, b/c that tests bench depth, which may or may not have been previously tested in the match.
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06-24-2010 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigindiemen
No. For an infinite amount of reasons
sorry for being a soccer noob, why is it so terrible? are you guys just traditionalists and closed minded?
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06-24-2010 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
sorry if this has been mentioned and i missed it but how about they get rid of offsides, more goals would be scored and it would be more fun to watch.
no- never- what

offsides= soccer

that would change everything to do with soccer
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