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watts also banned moves from the top rope, right when they were getting in a good amount of japanese Jr HW talent and when they had some really good lighter weight domestic talent. Watts was a great promoter and booker, but time went by real fast for him

japanese success plays into Vader because it shows that he can translate his abilities to different styles

Kensuke Sasaki or Morishima? I don't think that either of them could really be drafted becuase they didn't spend enough time in the US. There's really only one Japanese monster star that would be a legit draft pick because he had an extended run in the US and won a decent belt, and was pushed fairly well in the US

morishima dident work for a us company????

he was the ROH world champion for about 6 months. works for me imo

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11-17-2009 , 10:49 PM

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Man, I missed a ton this afternoon.

I love the Mr. Perfect pick since he was probably my favorite wrestler all time. While I don't like Cena I think he was fantastic value.

No picks that I really hate too much, I really like the Steamboat pick FWIW as well.

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11-17-2009 , 10:50 PM

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There's a bunch of good, eligible Japanese guys. Most aren't good picks yet though.

right, and most of them are Jrs. There have only been a handful of HWs that have won decent titles in the US for any decent or major promotion (which IMO is a serious problem with a lot of domestic bookers)

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11-17-2009 , 10:53 PM

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morishima dident work for a us company????

he was the ROH world champion for about 6 months. works for me imo

ROH isn't a major company.

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morishima dident work for a us company????

he was the ROH world champion for about 6 months. works for me imo

I think RoH works on some level. Obviously Claudio Castagnoli shouldn't be even close to drafted, but there have been some guys through there that deserve to be drafted. Plus, the RoH title is recognized as a world title. I thought that Morishima may have had a quick cup of tea in TNA also. I remember them bringing in Shunske Nakamura once or twice, and I think they brought in Tanahashi a couple times too

I think we'll need some sort of clarification for japanese wrestlers and mexican wrestlers(though this is less of a problem) as to how much time is needed to have been spent in the US/Stampede to fully count

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ROH isn't a major company.

so then your also saying that ecw back in the day was not major.

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11-17-2009 , 10:55 PM

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Is the monster star a junior or heavy? PM me?

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I just read that Watts wanted Flair to cut his hair, wear an earring and go by the name Spartacus. No wonder Flair wanted out of there.

This was actually Jim Herd, who fired Flair while he was the champion. Flair thought he owned the physical NWA Championship belt at the time, and sent it to Vince McMahon. Vince showed the NWA championship on WWF TV and all hell broke loose in WCW.

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11-17-2009 , 10:56 PM

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so then your also saying that ecw back in the day was not major.

ECW had a cable deal on a legit cable channel (I love HDNet, but they're not comparable). ECW made a huge push into the wrestling mainstream.

ROH, imo, is still a niche promotion. It doesn't have the same level of penetration that ECW had.

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11-17-2009 , 10:59 PM

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Vince showed the NWA championship on WWF TV and all hell broke loose in WCW.

Heenan's Big Announcement

This was just stunning. There was no warning. It was just added on to the end of an episode of the syndicated Wrestling Challenge.

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Round 2, Pick 36

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0gYVCJZkRc

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Punk on ECW tonight.

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they definitely aren't on the level of ECW, but Meltzer has generally declared that the RoH belt is a World Title, so RoH work does merit some consideration, though obviously not factored in as much as TNA, ECW, WCW, and WWf(E)

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Ultimate Warrior and Undertaker is some sick old school combo.

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During the time there were 3 promotions, ECW was something that everybody liked to say they'd watched and knew a lot about when really only the most hardcore fans had ever even seen it other than maybe one or two matches. From what I remember they were way less hardcore after actually getting a TV show and their TV show was really bad imo. Now we can go back on the internets and watch the early days which definitely featured some badass stuff, but we couldn't then. Seriously nobody except the hardcore internet fans or people living in the NE were into ECW before they got on TV though.

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11-17-2009 , 11:04 PM

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I loved the Ultimate Warrior when I was a kid. Even more than Hogan.

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Ultimate Warrior and Undertaker is some sick old school combo.

Agreed, they would have had such a sick feud together when Undertaker first started.

Me and ajohnson16 are discussing our pick and it should be up in a bit.

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wow, warrior=insanely bad

don't really know what to say other then that

Dynasty, IRT Flair with the NWA belt, it was technically his at the time. Champions were made to take out a 25K bond on the belt and carried it on themselves. So, while the NWA controlled it in one sense, Flair also had the rights to it in another, so he was legally fine in bringing it to WWF, but the NWA belt was a trademarked logo, so the WWF couldn't show the belt and had to blur it

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11-17-2009 , 11:06 PM

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Agreed, they would have had such a sick feud together when Undertaker first started.

Me and ajohnson16 are discussing our pick and it should be up in a bit.

Rofl. I have a feeling we're going to get some heat w/ our pick.

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at that time, tnn was not exactly was spike is today. tnn signed ecw for 1 year, to test the waters for wwe to move in the next year. tnn used ecw horribly.

hdnet is behind roh. id rather have the hdnet deal that roh has than the tnn deal that ecw had.

both had ppvs. true that ecw had live ppvs and roh had taped ones. in terms of presentation, ecw had the edge. in terms of matches, roh had the edge.

roh is right now was ecw was back in the day

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11-17-2009 , 11:07 PM

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Time to Watch These Ultimate Warrior Promos Again

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me and partner b123 decided to go no where near the ultimate warrior

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11-17-2009 , 11:08 PM

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Diesel, Cena, and Batista also won PWI wrestler of the year..............just sayin'.

Any schmo can win PWI wrestler of the year. It takes an uncommonly good guy to win WON wrestler of the year. Hogan and Sting never won it, but Flair won it eight times.

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its hard to really compare RoH and ECW in a sense. RoH has learned from the faults of ECW and has built slower and has been based on a different model. Both have positioned themselves as an alternative, but I think that RoH may have more legs in the long run based on the model which they've set for themselves to be profitable, or at least are running break even

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