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The same Vince that still has Raw as the second highest cable show behind MNF? I realize most/all argue that the quality of the product has dropped which is ldo but he still brings in tons of money and crushes ratings.

But you're not drafting the WWE's brand recognition. If you just want a booker, guy to run the show- I think there are now plenty of people who know enough based on what Vince has done that they can do it without some of his terrible, terrible negatives.

I pretty much think that a good portion of this forum can out-book the folks working for the WWE at this point.

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11-16-2009 , 08:02 PM

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With the #9 pick in the Professional Wrestling Promotion Draft, the Dynasty Wrestling Federation picks

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11-16-2009 , 08:04 PM

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Wrane

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11-16-2009 , 08:08 PM

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mjw0586

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SharkTank is up, remember to PM the next person after you make a pick

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11-16-2009 , 08:08 PM

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Assani Fisher

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i don't know a ton about Angle since I stopped watching wrestling, but from everything I've read it seems like a really good pick

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11-16-2009 , 08:10 PM

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very good pick. kurt is the rare guy on this list thus far that is still able to produse 4 star out of 5 matches time in and time out(such as last night on the tna ppv) high workrate, very good on the mic.

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11-16-2009 , 08:10 PM

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Doesn't 30 mean he was the last one in?? iirc, Shawn Michaels was the first to win the Rumble from the #1 spot.

when HBK won from the no1 slot, the run-in times were every 45 seconds or there about. He won the match in something like 36-40ish minutes. Flair won it from no4 and was in the match for over an hour

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Bret is good. Most people don't know that he wore those sunglasses to hide his eyes when he first came up because he was nervous doing promos and didn't want to show it. It's amazing how bad he was booked in WCW.

WCW was booking him to make the WWF look bad, that can be the only possible conclusion as they were handed a golden opportunity to utterly kill the WWF right there

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flair is a reach because there were several people available at the time of pick, a number of which are still available, who have better records at carrying an organisation - particularly during periods when wrestling has been more popular

not.even.close. Flair was the no1 guy in the world from basically 81-93 and was still putting in good matches until his retirement with the occasional great match. Everyone always got into him, because, well, there probably isn't much difference between ric flair and richard fliehr.

This was a guy that was one of the first to get a 1m contract from a company+ house % bonus' and ppv bonus'. He was also the first person to have won the legit versions of the WWF and NWA belt.

Outside of either Hogan, Austin, or Rock who could draw the numbers that Flair did?

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It's just, yeah as a bookie VKM is absoluety the best.

honestly, there are better bookers then Vince. He's had some bit hits, but he's also grossly wasted talent. While he was booking some extreme highs, he has also been just as responible for some of the lows. Wrestling always goes through cycles, but lets also think of a lot of the bad gimmicks, storylines, and fueds that he's done

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11-16-2009 , 08:11 PM

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SharkTank43

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Still debating between a couple guys, will have my pick up ASAP

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11-16-2009 , 08:11 PM

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Wrane

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I smell a pick run!

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11-16-2009 , 08:13 PM

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Angle is one of my all time favorites. The heel Olympic hero gimmick is maybe my favorite ever (The three I's still cracks me up) and he's a great worker.

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11-16-2009 , 08:14 PM

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4thstreetpete

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Goddamit where is the Ultimate Warrior!!!!!?????

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11-16-2009 , 08:14 PM

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Angle was great. Some of the backstage segments with Stone Cold in 2001 were hilarious and his matches were usually top quality.

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11-16-2009 , 08:14 PM

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re: vince mcmahon as booker:

he really does not/has never "booked" outright any of the shows. he had writers who do this for him. vince does have final say as to what happens, but to call vince the booker of the wwe is incorrect.

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11-16-2009 , 08:18 PM

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KDawg

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angle is a great pick. He's exactly the kind of guy who can carry a promotion

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11-16-2009 , 08:26 PM

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sharktank said he was thinking. assani is here. then is me, and my write up is ready. we have a good run going. i like

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11-16-2009 , 08:28 PM

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kurt is the rare guy on this list thus far that is still able to produse 4 star out of 5 matches time in and time out

Kurt Angle is one of the rare guys on this list that is only a dozen years into his pro-wrestling career.

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11-16-2009 , 08:30 PM

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Calling Flair a reach is so lolbad I don't even know what to say. All things considered, the dude is EASILY the best American professional wrestler ever. He may not have the insane peak of a Hogan, Rock, or Austin (and, if we're being honest, all of those guys have a right place, right time quality to them), but he had such an insane longevity as the top guy in the NWA/WCW (and during his brief stint with the WWF in the early 90's).

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11-16-2009 , 08:32 PM

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Russ M.

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It's true.

It's damn true.

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11-16-2009 , 08:33 PM

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My opinion on Vince is that he's an excellent business man who knows how to identify what the market wants and if this was "real" then he'd be the #1 choice for sure.

But in this draft, it's just hard to quantify exactly what he's going to do for your fed. Is his presence just going to make everyone better?
He's certainly not the best booker and his onscreen evil boss character needs the right type of talent to play off of in order to work.
Is he going to buy out the rest of our feds? Advertise more or something? Impose strict non-compete deals and fight against classifying the workers as "employees" to the bitter end?
I dunno, I think it's just a weird/different argument to make in this context because a lot of what he does to make the WWF successful isn't related to in ring/on screen product

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11-16-2009 , 08:36 PM

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MrOnizuka

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Anyone else kinda weirded out by how scratchy Angle's voice has gotten?
Compare the promos he did when he first showed up to the ones he does now and it sounds like he's had strep throat for a decade.

Small quibble though, Angle is sick. His Olympics story is pretty awesome by itself.

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11-16-2009 , 08:40 PM

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My opinion on Vince is that he's an excellent business man who knows how to identify what the market wants and if this was "real" then he'd be the #1 choice for sure.

But in this draft, it's just hard to quantify exactly what he's going to do for your fed. Is his presence just going to make everyone better?
He's certainly not the best booker and his onscreen evil boss character needs the right type of talent to play off of in order to work.
Is he going to buy out the rest of our feds? Advertise more or something?
I dunno, I think it's just a weird/different argument to make in this context.

Yeah, I was trying to post something about this, but Onizuka sums it up well.

Vince's greatest feat was buying up tons of talent and getting the WWF national exposure in the early 80s, effectively killing the territories. AFAIK, Vince has never really showed any sort of genius in the book realm. And that's without considering the lack of success in any venture outside of the wrestling world.

IMO, the dude's a marketing genius and that's about it. Shirts, toys, video games, etc. Vince is fantastic at that. But look at how the WWF brought Austin in as the Ringmaster and Rock as Rocky Maivia, the blue chipper. Those characters, imo, eventually got over because of the organic process of the performers behind them. Austin took off because of an ad-libbed line following his KOTR win (and then the fantastic WM13 match with Bret Hart).

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11-16-2009 , 09:06 PM

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Wrane

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I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about but I was trying to get to that. I just don't see how VM tranlates to this draft. It's almost like draft an extremely elite coach/gm.

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11-16-2009 , 09:12 PM

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10th Overall Pick

Part of me hates myself for this pick. That said.................

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IT'S TIME TO PLAY THE GAME!!!!

This pick was very tough for me to make, because I have horrible memories of the (seemingly) decade long HHH-Stephanie McMahon storlyine that pretty much turned me off to wrestling for a long time. However, I also knew that as owner of my company, the Tiburon Wrestling Association, I would never allow this roided out animal to bring his tiny nuts anywhere near any female member of my family, so any future of attempts of his to influence my company would fall on deaf ears. I also realized that I need a main-eventer, a viable world champion, and a guy I can count on to carry my company as a first round pick. I feel that Triple H is absolutely that guy.

HHH has been the WWE's biggest draw for the last 6-7 years, and has been the clear cut number 1 guy in their industry ever since Austin and The Rock went off to do other things. He has main evented countless PPV's, is one of the few current wrestlers who non-wrestling fans would most likely recognize, and can flip both a heel role and a face role equally well. In fact, I detested him so much as a heel back in the early 2000's, that I have chosen to use the heel version of The Game in my company...it takes a special kind of performer to garner that kind of hate from me in a sport that I know is 100% fake, but he managed to do it with flying colors.

Besides that, I feel that he is pretty underrated in the ring, and is for sure capable of putting on a great show if motivated, as evidenced by some sweet matches vs. Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle. I have no doubt that The Game/Triple H/Hunter Hearst Helmsley/The Cerebral Assassin is fully capable of being the backbone of my company.

Some Highlights of HHH's career:

-One of the founding members of Degeneration X
-Leader of Evolution
-13 time World Champion, 5 time Intercontinental Champion, 2 time European Champion.
-1997 King of the Ring Winner, 2002 Royal Rumble Winner, Grand Slam Champion.
-Great 1998 feud between him and The Rock over the Intercontinental Championship that helped elevate both men to the forefront of the industry
-2 time Pro Wrestling Illustrated Wrestler of the Year
-3 time Pro Wrestling Illustrated Most Hated Heel

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11-16-2009 , 09:14 PM

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There's really no need to put the write-ups in spoilers, not sure why people are doing that.

I think it's a little early for HHH, Untouchable and I talked about him going too early though, so others may disagree.