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10-17-2012 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
Infield fly rule:

Get rid of it. A pitcher should be rewarded for inducing a pop up, plus it adds strategy to the game.
I think the rule should be modified to punish the defense for dropping the ball in situations where it currently does not.

The pitcher is rewarded for inducing a pop up, it gives his team a 99.99% chance of getting an easy out. The defense is still responsible for completing the play.
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10-17-2012 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by neg3sd
Don't agree. The fielder should still be required to catch the ball. If not caught, everyone advances one base.
So what about if there is just a runner on first and an infielder misses an easy popfly? Should he get to advance a base, because "the fielder should still be required to catch the ball?" Or is the fielder not punished because he didnt find himself in a situation that used to be a setup for an angleshoot in 1894?
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10-17-2012 , 08:36 PM
grunch


No rain delays when its not raining
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10-17-2012 , 09:54 PM
Idea for Game 163:

For every game that the #5 seed finishes behind the #4 seed in the regular season standings, the #5 seed will forfeit one out in Game 163.

#5 seed finishes 10 games back? Start hitting with one out in the 4th.
Finish 1 game back? Start with one out in the top of the 1st.

It provides a real advantage to #4 seeds that have a significant lead over the #5 seed, without getting rid of the one game showdown idea. It also encourages teams in the wildcard spots to keep playing hard, even if their spot in Game 163 (and HFA) is secure.

The Rangers and O's would have played a normal game, as they were tied, while the Braves would have had the significant advantage of depriving the Cardinals of two innings of hitting.

You're welcome, Mr. Selig.
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10-17-2012 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamietrix
Idea for Game 163:

For every game that the #5 seed finishes behind the #4 seed in the regular season standings, the #5 seed will forfeit one out in Game 163.

#5 seed finishes 10 games back? Start hitting with one out in the 4th.
Finish 1 game back? Start with one out in the top of the 1st.

It provides a real advantage to #4 seeds that have a significant lead over the #5 seed, without getting rid of the one game showdown idea. It also encourages teams in the wildcard spots to keep playing hard, even if their spot in Game 163 (and HFA) is secure.

The Rangers and O's would have played a normal game, as they were tied, while the Braves would have had the significant advantage of depriving the Cardinals of two innings of hitting.

You're welcome, Mr. Selig.

It'd obv never happen but I like
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10-18-2012 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
So what about if there is just a runner on first and an infielder misses an easy popfly? Should he get to advance a base, because "the fielder should still be required to catch the ball?" Or is the fielder not punished because he didnt find himself in a situation that used to be a setup for an angleshoot in 1894?
What are you talking about. You cant angleshoot it when there is only a runner on first. You catch the ball and get the runner out or you drop it and get the baserunner out.
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10-18-2012 , 04:06 PM
Hockey:
1) During the Penalty Killing, the PK unit gets an icing if it throws away. A lot of PK's are spent with the offense running after the puck in their zone which makes for boring hockey.

2) As a hockey player who plays 3 times a week and a fairly high level, i can assure you that goalie equipement is still very big compared to what it ways pre-90's. Gloves, Pads, Biscuit could all use a reduction of at least 2 inch.

Baseball:
1) I think some sort of timing system is necessary to speed up the pitching process. I would say a 20 second clock for the batter and or pitcher or something like that, or else the batter gets a strike or the pitcher gets a ball. Some sort of system to speed up the process.

2) Its still a bit early, but if the trend continues, i think we will have to lower the mound or do something about the strike zone. Pitchers are becoming too good and having no runners on base just kills the action. As much as i like Verlander killing batters, its not that exciting for fans the opposing team when no one gets on base.

Football:
1)As previously said, college football overtime

2) Also previously said and hands down the most ridiculous but fun proposition, have the person who scores the TD do the extra point kick.

Basketball:
1) The previously mentionned ''winning team just fouls the opposing player'' at the end of the game. Kills too much the action. Im not sure what system to impose, but this is clearly a problem.

Soccer:
1)Im opening a pandora's box by talking about diving, but post-match analysis and yellow carding divers after video analysis(scotland league i believe does that) is probably the best thing to eliminate diving.
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10-18-2012 , 04:55 PM
lol at pitching being too good in baseball
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10-18-2012 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Adaptation
2) Its still a bit early, but if the trend continues, i think we will have to lower the mound or do something about the strike zone. Pitchers are becoming too good and having no runners on base just kills the action. As much as i like Verlander killing batters, its not that exciting for fans the opposing team when no one gets on base.
probably should have done this 10-20 years ago when guys like pedro, clemens and maddux were pitching significantly better than verlander in a much higher run scoring environment.
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10-18-2012 , 05:31 PM
Nah, nothing needs to be done about the strike zone or the mound height. If anything, the strike zone is too tight for batters. And, mound height was dropped in 1969 from 15 to 10 inches to make it easier on batters. Batters don't need any extra help. Some people actually like watching strikeouts.
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10-18-2012 , 05:42 PM
Football.. No Kicking a PAT

After a TD. For 1 point score from the 1 yard line. For 2 points you need to score from the 3 yard line. Or some distance that makes it more challenging to go for 2.
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10-18-2012 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Adaptation
Baseball:
1) I think some sort of timing system is necessary to speed up the pitching process. I would say a 20 second clock for the batter and or pitcher or something like that, or else the batter gets a strike or the pitcher gets a ball. Some sort of system to speed up the process.
8.04 When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to the batter
within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time the pitcher delays the game by
violating this rule, the umpire shall call “Ball.”

The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the ball and the batter is
in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing stops when the pitcher releases the ball.
The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the
catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the
rubber promptly. Obvious delay by the pitcher should instantly be penalized by the umpire.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y20...ball_Rules.pdf
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10-18-2012 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
What are you talking about. You cant angleshoot it when there is only a runner on first. You catch the ball and get the runner out or you drop it and get the baserunner out.
I know. And yet the fielder isnt punished for dropping an easy popfly! Because he just gets the out at second. Surely we must correct this, right?

Thats the point. You dont care if he catches the popup with the runner on first only, because there is no angleshoot. Well, with the infield fly rule, there is no angle with runners on first and second either. So why the dumb idea that the runners should advance on a drop?
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10-19-2012 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
What are you talking about. You cant angleshoot it when there is only a runner on first. You catch the ball and get the runner out or you drop it and get the baserunner out.
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
Thats the point. You dont care if he catches the popup with the runner on first only, because there is no angleshoot. Well, with the infield fly rule, there is no angle with runners on first and second either. So why the dumb idea that the runners should advance on a drop?
M. Trout is on first with one out, A. Pujols pops it up. What is the infielder's best play? (Perhaps an angleshoot?).
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10-19-2012 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
M. Trout is on first with one out, A. Pujols pops it up. What is the infielder's best play? (Perhaps an angleshoot?).
Probably already said... Let the defense choose who the runner will be
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10-19-2012 , 02:17 AM
I imagine this is already well known and has been proposed before, but I've only just seen it. Get the NFL to adopt Arena rules for the end of the game. After the two minute warning, the ball must be advanced past the line of scrimmage every play, otherwise the clock stops. Would eliminate kneeldowns and make the end of the game more exciting.
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10-19-2012 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I imagine this is already well known and has been proposed before, but I've only just seen it. Get the NFL to adopt Arena rules for the end of the game. After the two minute warning, the ball must be advanced past the line of scrimmage every play, otherwise the clock stops. Would eliminate kneeldowns and make the end of the game more exciting.
I like it.
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10-19-2012 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I imagine this is already well known and has been proposed before, but I've only just seen it. Get the NFL to adopt Arena rules for the end of the game. After the two minute warning, the ball must be advanced past the line of scrimmage every play, otherwise the clock stops. Would eliminate kneeldowns and make the end of the game more exciting.
That would get pretty wild. You'd have defenses selling out full on jailbreak trying to blow up everyone at the snap to get the tackle for loss. NFL would squash that idea over injury concern... but maybe

It would eliminate the Schiano and that decision.
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10-19-2012 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bank
8.04 When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to the batter
within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time the pitcher delays the game by
violating this rule, the umpire shall call “Ball.”

The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the ball and the batter is
in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing stops when the pitcher releases the ball.
The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the
catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the
rubber promptly. Obvious delay by the pitcher should instantly be penalized by the umpire.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y20...ball_Rules.pdf
Good post, was not aware of that one. Anything for batters?
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10-19-2012 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
M. Trout is on first with one out, A. Pujols pops it up. What is the infielder's best play? (Perhaps an angleshoot?).
Drop the ball bc youd rather have Pujols running compared to Trout. This is also not an angle shoot.
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10-19-2012 , 04:04 PM
I've always hated how much the clock impacts the end of NFL games. It seems silly to me that when a team scores to take the lead with very little time left, the other team has to scramble and hastily throw together a last ditch drive to try and answer. They can't run the ball because that would kill the clock, they can't throw anywhere except the sidelines, etc. Imagine how dumb it would be if baseball were played with a clock. The effect would be similar.

OT also sucks. The new OT rules are an improvement, but they still are pretty bad. My rule change fixes both.

When the clock hits 0:00 at the end of the 4th quarter, the game only ends if the team with the lead has possession of the ball OR is ahead by more than 8 points.

The impact would be that if a team takes the lead just as the game is ending, the other team gets a final drive to respond. If they score on that drive, then the other team gets a chance to respond, etc. There is no OT anymore, just an endless 4th quarter that keeps going until one of the winning conditions is met. The reason it is 8 points is because that is the most that can be scored on a single drive, obviously.

Any thoughts? I've brought this idea up with friends before to a mixed reception.
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10-19-2012 , 04:14 PM
dislike
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10-19-2012 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc89

When the clock hits 0:00 at the end of the 4th quarter, the game only ends if the team with the lead has possession of the ball OR is ahead by more than 8 points.

This would destroy the 'post here when coaches do something obviously stupid thread'
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10-19-2012 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BraveJayhawk
This would destroy the 'post here when coaches do something obviously stupid thread'
Until a coach punts on an untimed play.
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10-19-2012 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc89
I've always hated how much the clock impacts the end of NFL games. It seems silly to me that when a team scores to take the lead with very little time left, the other team has to scramble and hastily throw together a last ditch drive to try and answer. They can't run the ball because that would kill the clock, they can't throw anywhere except the sidelines, etc. Imagine how dumb it would be if baseball were played with a clock. The effect would be similar.

OT also sucks. The new OT rules are an improvement, but they still are pretty bad. My rule change fixes both.

When the clock hits 0:00 at the end of the 4th quarter, the game only ends if the team with the lead has possession of the ball OR is ahead by more than 8 points.

The impact would be that if a team takes the lead just as the game is ending, the other team gets a final drive to respond. If they score on that drive, then the other team gets a chance to respond, etc. There is no OT anymore, just an endless 4th quarter that keeps going until one of the winning conditions is met. The reason it is 8 points is because that is the most that can be scored on a single drive, obviously.

Any thoughts? I've brought this idea up with friends before to a mixed reception.
Games would potentially take FOREVER. You want complaints about player safety, let's talk about the three-hour fourth quarter because neither defense can get off the field.
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