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07-30-2012 , 09:34 PM
LOL at the Bolden apologists and me not saying he is/was terrible for years now.

Last edited by Bdidd; 07-30-2012 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Tuma the voice of reason on this issue
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07-30-2012 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
You know nothing about the kid yet you judge him.
my point is that what he said shouldn't have jack-**** to do with the college choice of a big-time fb recruit. this isn't college basketball, where one stud and a couple good guys this year and again next year can turn around a program. and even if it were possible, a TE wouldn't be the one to do it. thus, the odds that the thought in that quote originated with him are extremely low. and only someone who has drunk the kool-aid/has the fervor of a missionary would even try to take on the responsibility.

also, I'm pretty sure that "we're going to make everyone forget about the child rape" isn't a rallying cry you want to be a part of.
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07-30-2012 , 09:45 PM
Of those 5 guys (Hs seniors right?) I'd expect at least 2 to back out by next year
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07-30-2012 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by five4suited
my point is that what he said shouldn't have jack-**** to do with the college choice of a big-time fb recruit. this isn't college basketball, where one stud and a couple good guys this year and again next year can turn around a program. and even if it were possible, a TE wouldn't be the one to do it. thus, the odds that the thought in that quote originated with him are extremely low. and only someone who has drunk the kool-aid/has the fervor of a missionary would even try to take on the responsibility.

also, I'm pretty sure that "we're going to make everyone forget about the child rape" isn't a rallying cry you want to be a part of.
this is laughable
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07-30-2012 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
Of those 5 guys (Hs seniors right?) I'd expect at least 2 to back out by next year
Maybe or maybe not.

The whole idea of resurrecting a damaged program(and the us vs the world angle) might be the one thing that could keep these guys there. We just have to wait and see what happens.
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07-30-2012 , 09:49 PM
2% sounds crazy but you'd be surprised at how many people don't pay attention to sports.

I know a woman from Boston that doesn't know who Tom Brady is.
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07-30-2012 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
Maybe or maybe not.

The whole idea of resurrecting a damaged program(and the us vs the world angle) might be the one thing that could keep these guys there. We just have to wait and see what happens.

That's a nice idea and everything on paper, but when push comes to shove, they are going to do what's best for them.
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07-30-2012 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Man
That's a nice idea and everything on paper, but when push comes to shove, they are going to do what's best for them.
No time to do it than when the heat is the most intense so to speak.

If they don't do it in the next thirty days or so, I think the chances go down fairly significantly.

I think how the team performs this year and how the fanbase reacts during the season has at least something to do with how this all plays out for the seven "big" recruits in the class of 2013
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07-30-2012 , 09:55 PM
not nearly as laughable as characterizing helping penn ****ing state get over the child rape as "a really unique opportunity at Penn State to do something really special" and wanting "...to bring a community together" and hoping to "...be remembered for a long time and give a community hope."

yeah, after rereading that I'm absolutely correct to clown this fool. and you. get some ****ing perspective. unless you're down with child rape... in which case, continue posting as you have been.
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07-30-2012 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
No time to do it than when the heat is the most intense so to speak.

If they don't do it in the next thirty days or so, I think the chances go down fairly significantly.

I think how the team performs this year and how the fanbase reacts during the season has at least something to do with how this all plays out for the seven "big" recruits in the class of 2013

The kids that are there for an education 1st and football 2nd will probably stay. But the guys that had dreams of playing in a bowl game are probably debating what to do.
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07-30-2012 , 10:04 PM
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not nearly as laughable as characterizing helping penn ****ing state get over the child rape as "a really unique opportunity at Penn State to do something really special" and wanting "...to bring a community together" and hoping to "...be remembered for a long time and give a community hope."

yeah, after rereading that I'm absolutely correct to clown this fool. and you. get some ****ing perspective. unless you're down with child rape... in which case, continue posting as you have been.
This is a 17 year old kid looking at what he and his fellow recruits can do to help heal an entire community and get it moving in the right direction. He isn't advocating child rape, perjury or anything else. He isn't advocating for Sandusky, Paterno or the previous administration. Put aside your borderline irrational obsession for just a minute.

Perspective indeed.
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07-30-2012 , 10:07 PM
I don't think Matt Barkley's draft prospects have been hurt by playing through a few years of NCAA sanctions with no bowl game appearances.
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07-30-2012 , 10:09 PM
Meh, I get that he's a young kid and it's really unfair to expect him to give a 10 minute stump speech about right and wrong here, but his lines do read as yet another person that just doesn't get it. He seems to think if they can just get the football team winning again, it'll be all good. That's basically missing the entire point.
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07-30-2012 , 10:18 PM
one more time, since you seem to be losing touch with reality: the "penn state community" should neither be the priority, nor is it deserving, when it comes to healing. its actions when the scandal broke, and pretty much ever since, have demonstrated that beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm not sure how to characterize the idea that the culture that was a huge contributor to the horrible crimes that occurred is now going to "heal the community," but the phrases that come to mind definitely aren't laudatory.

THIS ISN'T A "FIND THE GOOD," "SILVER LINING" SITUATION. they need to take their lumps and stfu. period.
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07-30-2012 , 10:22 PM
One more time. Who said the PSU community is the priority over the victims, justice being done etc? Did I miss something in Brenneman's quote? Was he somehow dismissing the seriousness of the wrongs that were done by saying what he said? Please explain.

You can't have concern for the victims and want to help the school/town/area to heal?

Perspective indeed
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07-30-2012 , 10:22 PM
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Meh, I get that he's a young kid and it's really unfair to expect him to give a 10 minute stump speech about right and wrong here, but his lines do read as yet another person that just doesn't get it. He seems to think if they can just get the football team winning again, it'll be all good. That's basically missing the entire point.
also, this.

when it comes to what the recruits and players do, I've got no issues with their doing what's best for them. but when it comes to the consequences of the child rape, in the words of jules winnfield, "I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing"

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07-30-2012 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
One more time. Who said the PSU community is the priority over the victims, justice being done etc? Did I miss something in Brenneman's quote? Was he somehow dismissing the seriousness of the wrongs that were done by saying what he said? Please explain.

You can't have concern for the victims and want to help the school/town/area to heal?

Perspective indeed
dude, you've made some good points at times, but now you're careening toward skiier status. unless espn snipped the quote, this asshat didn't say a thing about sympathy for the victims, the horror of what happened, or anything else. as for the PSU community, as far as I'm aware, neither do they during all their whining and bleating.

in other words: ABSOLUTELY, YOU DUMBASS. HE DIDN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT IT. Clear enough? When the subject is child rape and how your school covered it up and enabled it for more than a decade, you don't get to "look forward," "get past this," or anything else. You get to stfu and take your medicine.
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07-30-2012 , 10:31 PM
god it is going to be so insta-megatilting when 110k cultists show up and jerk each other off at pedo state's first home game

but its going to be even more awesome than that is tilting when they get their asses mauled for like 5 straight years. would absolutely love to see that stadium like half empty in 2015.
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07-30-2012 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by five4suited
dude, you've made some good points at times, but now you're careening toward skiier status. unless espn snipped the quote, this asshat didn't say a thing about sympathy for the victims, the horror of what happened, or anything else. as for the PSU community, as far as I'm aware, neither do they during all their whining and bleating.
The only point i'm trying to make is that there is nothing in that quote (and believe me I'm about the last person to be defending the overly religious) that somehow downplays or is dismissive of the real victims in this whole mess.

Your reaction struck me as if the kid said that they were going to go out and win one for JoePa.
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07-30-2012 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
god it is going to be so insta-megatilting when 110k cultists show up and jerk each other off at pedo state's first home game

but its going to be even more awesome than that is tilting when they get their asses mauled for like 5 straight years. would absolutely love to see that stadium like half empty in 2015.
Attendance didn't suffer when they weren't very good for a couple year stretch previously.

Did attendance suffer at UM during the RichRod fiasco?
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07-30-2012 , 10:36 PM
Its a whole lot easier to get to those big bowl games in the lolPac12
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07-30-2012 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
Attendance didn't suffer when they weren't very good for a couple year stretch previously.

Did attendance suffer at UM during the RichRod fiasco?
a fiasco is your institution systematically covering up child rape for 20 years

richrod was a speed bump bro
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07-30-2012 , 10:37 PM
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Its a whole lot easier to get to those big bowl games in the lolPac12
wat, its pretty ****ing easy in the big10, you guys just arent very good
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07-30-2012 , 10:40 PM
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The only point i'm trying to make is that there is nothing in that quote (and believe me I'm about the last person to be defending the overly religious) that somehow downplays or is dismissive of the real victims in this whole mess.
if you mention/reference it at all, which he clearly did, and your statement doesn't begin (if not begin and end) with a comment regarding the victims, you are by definition downplaying or being dismissive, simply because of the monstrousness of the crimes that were committed.

I almost feel bad about the name-calling, but I really suspect you're being intentionally obtuse.
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07-30-2012 , 10:41 PM
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wat, its pretty ****ing easy in the big10, you guys just arent very good

probably shouldn't go down this road ITT but 5 bowl games of any kind in 7 years is quite strong.

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