he had one 9-2 year at Sparty, right?

Yikes. Sucks, brother. Eat some soup and drink some Sprite or ****. Hope you feel better.

Full Paterno family statement:

Paterno Family Responds

JasonKirkSBN:

ahahahaha

In 5 years with another program in state that dominated recruiting in-state, Saban took a team that had 5 straight losing seasons to 9-2 and a win over a team with Steve Spurrier and all that SEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCCCCC SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED.

I think Saban could have turned Sparty into a national contender, at least on par with Michigan/OSU at the time had he stayed for another 4-5 years.

Don't think basketball and football compare at all here. The relative rosters sizes being the biggest difference.

olololoololol

From what people are saying, the last thing the Paterno family really wants is more due process and a more detailed investigation.

The important question is whether the $60M fine goes to the school or the athletic association.

In the instances I know of (not sure about PSU) those are two distinct legal entities, and while the university may have an endowment the AA usually has some kind of "fund" that is significantly smaller. The B1G bowl rev is definitely an AA hit, but I don't know if that $60M fine is university or AA. Fining the AA would be crippling, fining the university won't be a huge hit.

Didn't see it here, but apparently schools taking in PSU refugees won't have to count them against their scholarship limits.

Good point about the death penalty potentially not being the only punishment. IIRC, SMU had to play their next season with no home games and got bowl bans and probation afterward too.

nice that's nice

Everyone still going to think JoePa is all time wins leader lol nice try thou NCAA

The kids sandusky screwed are now roughly college age and now they can't go to bowls and lost scholarships. He's still screwing them.

Can't wait till they're kicked out b/c they provide nothing to the conference other than footbawl.

btw the ncaa here is way out of line, they did no investigation and just took that report as gospel and hammered people that had mostly nothing to do with the crime that took place (standard). The bowl bans and scholarship reductions are just stupid. Hey I got a great idea on how to punish them by screwing more kids! Great message NCAA.

Think there's other ways to go about it fines are good, punishing admins/coaches are good, maybe limit spending on facilities/ticket sales for awhile. I'm sick of scholarship reductions, hey let's crush the last guy who got one on the team that probably walked on first. We got them SO GOOD.

At least with the bowl bans, the kids can transfer w/o penalty if they wish.

Just feels like there's got to be a way to similarly hurt the football program/university that covered it up without hurting the "student athletes".

Ericmizrachi is pissin me off

Tweets me that this punish ment is bad for the innocent people

And criminal punishment such as fines and jail time won't get their attention?

If I worked for a company and I was about to do something illegal to help protect the company's reputation and the consequences if I were caught were A) I go to jail for 10 years and B) company's stock prices drops by 30%, A would influence a lot more than B.

The young kids at PSU have to transfer now right? Or are they just willing to never play for a championship/bowl game/etc. Once a couple big kids go it's over imo, the floodgates will completely open.

Also from seeing reports the scholly penalty is either 15new/75total which is what SC has and can be managed, albeit still tough, or 15new/65total which will be unmanageable imo. No decent kids are gonna play on a team that has 65 scholarship kids. Good luck getting a QB when all your backup olinemen are walk ons who are gonna get destroyed by the Michigans and tOSUs of the world.

Didn't Emmert say during the press conference the 60 million is going to sexual abuse victims or something similar. The point being it's not going to the NCAA but rather is going to be used in a way to counteract harm of the type that PSU helped perpetuate.

this Why doesn't anybody ever go; hey I'm about to make this statement public can you check and make sure there's nothing that makes us sound incredibly stupid in it?

nuh uh

Spainer letter to PSU BOT in ESPN article wants to "set record straight"

http://espn.go.com/pdf/2012/0723/esp...nierletter.pdf

If they don't count against the scholarship #'s then yeah, the floodgates will open. It'll be we stand behind psu right about until whoever jumps ship first.
Some kids will probably stay just because some are insane/have already succumbed to the cult.

If all vacated wins count Bowden is the wins leader anyway right?

Feel pretty confident including USC in there. Didn't miss a single beat with some pretty strong sanctions. Pretty confident they would get back a cycle or two after the sanctions ended if they got these penalties.

This is spot on. It will take PSU well over a decade just to reach .500 in the Big Ten and when you have a stadium which seats 100,000+ with 30,000 fans showing up will look pretty awful. Not just that, how many star football players really want to commit to a university which has this hanging over their head? SMU has never recovered from the death penalty and PSU has it worse.