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06-21-2012 , 01:02 AM
i bet he has sticky keys on
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06-21-2012 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by crbc55
aura, yes, they knew. All those adults knew about sexual abuse of children. My point was there was no way they could not be aware. It was all over the news. They turned a blind eye
You mean sexual abuse of children in general? I agree.
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06-21-2012 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
i bet he has sticky keys on
His forum setting is 15 ppp.
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06-21-2012 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
His forum setting is 15 ppp.
You think he even knew how to register an account?
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06-21-2012 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ForumWithdrawal
You think he even knew how to register an account?
Wanted to quote you and link BDidd's profile, but he doesn't repeat "COME TO PENN STATE!!!" over and over.
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06-21-2012 , 01:43 AM
making a facebook post with that image and a status of "LET'S PLAY A GAME: WHAT'S ON OLD CRAZY JOE'S MONITOR?" would probably result in someone sneaking into my house at night and killing me, yes?

PSU <3ers make me mad and im a natural troll, but man even i couldnt do that on the book
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06-21-2012 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ForumWithdrawal
You think he even knew how to register an account?
I dunno about PSU, but @ Cal/San Jose State/UCLA, a univ. IT guy comes in and gets him registered if he wants it.

TBH, I'm not fond of ANY institution/non-profit org. using Apples,
buncha spendthrifts IYAM.
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06-21-2012 , 08:45 AM
Alright, some of you have made your point. I think many of you at least understand where i was coming from so I'll just move on.

I'm going to (attempt in earnest) to limit my commentary/responses to non-inflammatory ****.
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06-21-2012 , 10:19 AM
Closing arguments must have been very brief and condensed. Court TV is reporting that Judge Cleland dropped three of the 51 counts "with prejudice" meaning that the prosecution can never attempt to charge Sandusky with those three offenses again, so Sandusky now faces a total of 48 counts.

Judge Cleland is now instructing the jury. According to the Court TV reporter, the judge was very specific in instructing the jury that on each count, before they can reach a verdict of guilty, they must determine if Sandusky's intent was "sexual" in relation to the specific charge. The judge told them that the act of touching a child is not a crime, the act of "cracking their back" is not necessarily a crime, and the act of "soaping up a child" is not necessarily a crime. The judge impressed upon the jury that in order for whatever Sandusky did with each victim to be a crime, the jurors have to somehow figure out or ascertain what was going on in Jerry Sandusky's mind. That will be a bit of a challenge as Sandusky never got up on the stand to tell jurors what his "intent" actually was. Given this instruction, I can see members of the jury disagreeing on some of the counts.

The best way I interpret this is that Judge Cleland is playing this strictly by the book. He is going out of his way to make sure that the trial record, regardless of how this trial turns out, is as error free as possible and that the jury's verdict - especially if Sandusky is convicted - withstands the inevitable appeal. In short, Judge Cleland is going out of his way to make sure the defendant receives a "fair" trial.

I have a feeling the judge's instruction regarding Jerry Sandusky's "intent" will reduce the number of counts on which he is convicted. However, it's too late to be lowering my "guesstimate" based on this jury instruction. I'm sticking with conviction on 32 counts.

Last edited by Alan C. Lawhon; 06-21-2012 at 10:27 AM. Reason: Minor edit.
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06-21-2012 , 10:29 AM
I'm guess they gave out the jury instruction prior to the closing arguments, I can't fathom both sides already being done by this time of the morning.

Way off-topic but I was thinking yesterday how goddamn boring it would be to sit there as they read off the verdict on all 50 counts.
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06-21-2012 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by diddyeinstein
I'm guess they gave out the jury instruction prior to the closing arguments, I can't fathom both sides already being done by this time of the morning.

Way off-topic but I was thinking yesterday how goddamn boring it would be to sit there as they read off the verdict on all 50 counts.
Yes, your point makes more sense. My bad.
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06-21-2012 , 10:32 AM
That jury I was on last week the judge gave all the instructions except one before closing statements. Then after the remaining instruction was just on deliberation.
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06-21-2012 , 10:41 AM
If Sandusky is convicted on as few as two of the "Class 1" felony counts, he'll very likely die in prison. Conviction in Pennsylvania on a Class 1 felony carries a maximum 20-year prison sentence. He's facing 17 class one counts not to mention all the Class 2 felony and misdemeanor counts. I'm predicting conviction on 32 counts. In the most extremely favorable (and realistic?) scenario for Jerry Sandusky, I can't imagine him being convicted on less than 10 of the 48 counts. Even that low number will put him away for life.
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06-21-2012 , 10:48 AM
PAGING KARAK

If he gets off, double jeoparty doesn't apply to any possible federal charges, right?
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06-21-2012 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
PAGING KARAK

If he gets off, double jeoparty doesn't apply to any possible federal charges, right?
Please let's not go down that road. I've actually never used my "one time". You can have your Roger Clemens, your Barry Bonds, your John Edwards, your Dick Cheney, and even your Full Tilt moneys and managers. Just please don't let Sandusky spend another day on this planet outside the walls of an uncomfortable prison.

ONE TIME!!!
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06-21-2012 , 11:05 AM
On a side note I saw an expose on Nightline last night about how non-uncomfortable prison actually is. Apparently Sandusky will have an opportunity to play pool, dominoes, basketball, work on crafts, and even perform with a rock band.

Last edited by diddy!; 06-21-2012 at 11:07 AM. Reason: sry btwn bron prolly winning a title and this dickhole walking free, I have lost any ability to speak cogently on this topic
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06-21-2012 , 11:16 AM
Really, you're just gonna' immediately take a dump on my one time like that?
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06-21-2012 , 11:17 AM
I doubt that is true for a pedophile, widely regarded as the worst of the worst by other inmates.
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06-21-2012 , 11:22 AM
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Really, you're just gonna' immediately take a dump on my one time like that?
My bad. I'll give you mine.

ONE TIME JURORS!!!! ONE TIME!!!
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06-21-2012 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
BDidd doing an amazing job of volunteering to let the entire forum take out their anger at PSU on him.
+1

Last edited by wiper; 06-21-2012 at 11:23 AM. Reason: another 4* signed this weekend woo hoo!
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06-21-2012 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by diddyeinstein
On a side note I saw an expose on Nightline last night about how non-uncomfortable prison actually is. Apparently Sandusky will have an opportunity to play pool, dominoes, basketball, work on crafts, and even perform with a rock band.
except as a child rapist he will be shanked within 2 hours of entering the prison.
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06-21-2012 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by UFO1947
except as a child rapist he will be shanked within 2 hours of entering the prison.
Probably not. He will most likely spend his entire time in prison in ad seg, provided he actually goes.
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06-21-2012 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by diddyeinstein
On a side note I saw an expose on Nightline last night about how non-uncomfortable prison actually is. Apparently Sandusky will have an opportunity to play pool, dominoes, basketball, work on crafts, and even perform with a rock band.
diddy:

That depends on whether you are sent to a "country club" type facility or a tougher state prison. Folks convicted in federal court for financial crimes - such as Wall Street crooks or corrupt politicians - are more likely to get sent to a country club. Individuals convicted of violent crimes (or crimes against children) in state court are less likely to wind up in a relatively comfortable federal prison. I toured the Limestone Correctional Facility (state prison) which is about ten miles from my doorstep. Believe me, that place is not a country club.

When it comes time for sentencing, I doubt if the judge is going to send Jerry Sandusky to some country club type prison. Presumably Judge Cleland periodically stands for reelection to the bench. If a television crew airs an "investigative report" showing Sandusky playing dominoes and basketball and appearing to have a jolly good time, that won't go over well with the judge's constituents. I suspect the judge will send Sandusky to the most unpleasant prison in Pennsylvania. (Of course, it would be nice if one of his fellow inmates performed a public service and murdered Sandusky, so maybe they'll stick him in solitary confinement 23 hours a day in order to circumvent that outcome.)
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06-21-2012 , 11:37 AM
Ah, OK, thanks.
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06-21-2012 , 11:45 AM
Alan,
Not a 'country club' prison, these are convicted murderers: Nightline link

Everyone else,
Sorry for my derails, I'll stay on topic.
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