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11-07-2011 , 02:10 PM
rome said about 100 times 58 yr old in shower with 10 yr old wtf is ur problem bitch anatta asked u a direct q in another post u best answer
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11-07-2011 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
I catch your drift, but I am not introducing "x" to prove "y."

I am merely suggesting that obvious action are not always so obvious given a lot of factors. One such factor is that people do not always process situations foreign to them or those that require them to confront uncomfortable thoughts.

The Kitty Genovese (I can't look it up right now) is an example of this as many people either seeing her struggle or sceaming for help did nothing as she was being raped and murdered.

also, the events of the Columbus Parade a few years back comes to mind as people did nothing in the face of wide-spread sexual harassment/battery in public.
I think this was Pudge's point, since earlier in the thread he suggested that going to the police may not help. (But yeah, he made that point really terribly, so I don't blame you reading it that way). The Kitty Genovese murder thing was exaggerated by the media, but yeah - if we ever come close to getting the truth about this situation, I think we'll see that a ton of people were in denial. There's two explanations here, shades of which could be at work:

A: People were in denial and covered it up because they themselves either didn't want to or couldn't believe it

B: People knew about it, hoped it would go away, and didn't confront Sandusky for fear of damage to Penn State's program/reputation

A is understandable and immensely disappointing, B is obviously loathsome
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11-07-2011 , 02:22 PM
lol at this book review jfc

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When you finish this book you wish it was longer. Like a good movie you do not want it to end. It describes a man who has done some great things to help others. How many college football coaches would turn down 3 head coaching opportunities at big-time schools to stay in "Happy Valley". A couple who could not have their own children. Then adopted 6. Not all in infancy. A man who took in foster children and at the same time ran the defense for one of college football's elite teams for 23 years. A kid who never grew up. Yet a person who is so selfless it defies human ego. Everyone reading this should do themselves a moral favor and contribute money to the Second Mile. (...).
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11-07-2011 , 02:24 PM
Curley and Schultz are stepping down.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/sp...imes&seid=auto

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Curley will take an administrative leave to defend himself against perjury charges, and Schultz will retire.
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11-07-2011 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonding
Listening to this, why would the Grand Jury not ask the GA what he told Joe Paterno. That seems fishy.

I didn't realize that the 10 year old rape victim has not been identified yet.
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11-07-2011 , 02:28 PM
It seems that just one or two of the victims have been identified, yet.
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11-07-2011 , 02:36 PM
Outside the Lines has a thing on now about it. ESPN2
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11-07-2011 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by anatta
rome said about 100 times 58 yr old in shower with 10 yr old wtf is ur problem bitch anatta asked u a direct q in another post u best answer
But he didn't say Joe Paterno saw them in the shower, rather 28 year old graduate assistant saw them in the shower and TOLD Joe Paterno about it the next day.
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11-07-2011 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonding
It seems that just one or two of the victims have been identified, yet.
Seems like 6 of 8 have been identified. Given this guy has been involved with a boys group since '79, there is likely going to end up being many.

Joe Pa looks horrible in this. The GA contacts him and tells him the story. The only way he isn't a scumbag is if the GA didn't go into graphic detail, which seems almost impossible.

He obv. isn't legally responsible, but he's a disgusting human, as are multiple high-level PSU personel.

Found it interesting that law enforcement said it would have to be investigated whether Joe Pa and GA saw Sandusky and boy at 2007 practice. It seems the door could still be open, but trying to secure a conviction of Joe Pa in the mountains is likely impossible.

Thanks to linker for WP live coverage.
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11-07-2011 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Oski
Curley and Schultz? How can anyone think this is nothing more than a case of gross incompetence?

"I see nothing! I know nothing! NOTHING!"
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11-07-2011 , 02:44 PM
oh well ok didnt "see" but rome said "heard about" whatever man everybody should still report it anatta dont wanna get all up in the facts of this story its sick go eagles and phb dont wanna tell anatta wtf his problem is so f it
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11-07-2011 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NapoleonInRags
Seems like 6 of 8 have been identified. Given this guy has been involved with a boys group since '79, there is likely going to end up being many.

Joe Pa looks horrible in this. The GA contacts him and tells him the story. The only way he isn't a scumbag is if the GA didn't go into graphic detail, which seems almost impossible.

He obv. isn't legally responsible, but he's a disgusting human, as are multiple high-level PSU personel.

Found it interesting that law enforcement said it would have to be investigated whether Joe Pa and GA saw Sandusky and boy at 2007 practice.
GA is looking like such a pussy piece of ****. Would make my blood boil to see that molester on campus every week.
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11-07-2011 , 02:50 PM
I wish there was an online "anatta-to-English" translator.
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11-07-2011 , 02:51 PM
All coaches met at PSU this morning. What basically came out of it was they were told to keep quiet and defend paterno.
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11-07-2011 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NapoleonInRags
Joe Pa looks horrible in this. The GA contacts him and tells him the story. The only way he isn't a scumbag is if the GA didn't go into graphic detail, which seems almost impossible.
This has been said multiple times in the thread, but to say it again:

Not only is it near impossible, it's irrelevant. Even if the GA just said he saw Sandusky naked in the shower with a 10 year old late one night, that should be enough for Paterno and everyone else involved to completely remove Sandusky from anything PSU related. At a minimum.

So there is no way that JoePa isn't a huge scumbag in all of this.
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11-07-2011 , 02:52 PM
"The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling," he said. "If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers." --Joe Paterno

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11-07-2011 , 02:54 PM
u said

Everyone who doesn't seem to get the gravity of grown men raping little boys.

So: LuckyLloyd, anatta, tschubauer.

^ Guys, not sure how to break this to you but raping little kids is bad, mmmmkay?


anatta is askin what did he say and callin u out for not responding to him
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11-07-2011 , 02:57 PM
mean if anything the whole point of anattas joke was that its really bad since its little boys mean not just little girls which u know is kinda wrong too but w/e but little boys sick
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11-07-2011 , 03:02 PM
After watching the press conference: securing the perjury convictions does not appear to be a slam dunk at all, and with only the AG side speaking.

I gather there will be a trial and the prosecution will get a chance to present evidence and the defense will do their thing, information will come to light, etc., filling the void now filled with speculation... But
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11-07-2011 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Your Boss
This has been said multiple times in the thread, but to say it again:

Not only is it near impossible, it's irrelevant. Even if the GA just said he saw Sandusky naked in the shower with a 10 year old late one night, that should be enough for Paterno and everyone else involved to completely remove Sandusky from anything PSU related. At a minimum.

So there is no way that JoePa isn't a huge scumbag in all of this.
I agree. I meant unless the GA's version was just so vague, that it was almost benign, but that makes no sense. I believe Joe knew the exact details. I think the AD, President, Joe Pa, and the GA are responsible morally for every boy touched by that monster since that day.
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11-07-2011 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Triumph36
I'd like to think that I would call the police, but I'm not a graduate assistant working at Penn State, so I can't say. If it's my dream to work at Penn State? I don't know. People have done a lot worse for a lot less. Why should my future be put in jeopardy by something someone else did that had nothing to do with me?
So, let's remove your rhetoric and manipulative language and "I agree it's reprehensible blah blah" you've used to defend this stance since you first argued it. [No one thinks you support child rape, relax]

Your basic argument is,

You can understand why a person wouldn't report seeing his boss or an authority have anal sex (rape) with a 10 year old boy?

Now,

What the **** is wrong with you?
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11-07-2011 , 03:07 PM
Seeing a head coach or authority offering a kid a bribe or violating NCAA regs = maybe turn other cheek, mind your business, protect your career

Seeing a head coach of authority buttsex a child too small to defend himself = tell the ****ing police and anyone who might be able to do anything about it

Very different things
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11-07-2011 , 03:08 PM
Nobody else finds it suspicious that the GA wasn't asked exactly what he told Paterno during the Grand Jury?
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11-07-2011 , 03:10 PM
Anyway, we know how this plays out.

Sandusky gets the book, everyone else gets off way too easy
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11-07-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Wait the entire janitorial staff also knew about a different (earlier) victim and didn't even report it. I read the entire report now. I mean, wtf. The GA is practically the only person who does anything close to the right thing at any point. So, yeah. I was right.
Yeah no one seems to be talking about this one because I'm guessing either they didn't make it through the whole report, of more likely because JoePa isn't involved. But that was the most haunting part of the story to me. That old janitor saying nothing he'd seen in Korea had prepared him for that.

It also shows just how god-like major football programs are on their campus. You think if it was a rowing coach the janitorial staff would have all shut up about it? Totally effed-up.
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