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09-22-2014 , 05:07 PM
Hey guys, I almost never post here anymore, but I always come back for more Dids!

There were some discussions running around /r/cfb that the no-PI call was because Armstead grazed the pass, thus making it a tipped ball. You can kind of see it here, watch #9 on defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiGqWfrXC5g#t=3345
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09-22-2014 , 05:18 PM
WSU was my biggest bet of the week. Obviously glad they covered, but would have loved a win. As a Husky fan, the only week of the college football season I root for WSU.

I hate Connor Halliday with a passion, but he throws some pretty footballs.
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09-22-2014 , 05:28 PM
The pass went a long way and was right on the money for a tipped ball. It would have to have been barely grazed, which I can't tell from that video.
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09-22-2014 , 05:41 PM
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I hate Connor Halliday with a passion, but he throws some pretty footballs.
Dialed a few notches down this is not unlike how I feel. I'm not really a fan of him at all, but he does have a damn cannon. When he keeps Bad Connor at bay, it's pretty impressive.

Also, if you watched the game, please know that Rod Gilmore was wrong, Dom Williams, who beat one of the better corners in the nation twice, is not our 2nd best receiver. He's maybe the 4th (Mayle, Cracraft, Meyers).
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09-22-2014 , 06:42 PM


I BLAME SRM FOR THIS
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09-24-2014 , 04:58 PM
HEY EVERYBODY, IT'S TIME FOR A FUZZY AND HUGGABLE VERSION OF


BUT FIRST, LAST WEEK

DIDN'T PLAY NICE WITH OTHERS

Oregon State 28 San Diego State 7
Utah 26 Michigan 10
Colorado 21 Hawaii 12

JUST MADE IT HOME BEFORE SOILING YOUR DIAPER

Arizona 49 Cal 45
Oregon 38 WSU 31

I TAKE IT YOU NEEDED A NAP?

HALFTIME: Georgia State 14 UW 0

END OF REGULATION: UW 45 Georgia State 14

AND NOW THIS WEEK'S GAMES

The Softest 11 This Side of a Retired Porn Star Convention vs The Demons Who Couldn't Take Hell's Heat And Peaced Out to More Moderate Climates

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UCLA (-4) at ASU

UCLA has really struggled to beat some pretty crap teams. The question here is if ASU without Taylor Kelly becomes a crap team. I kinda suspect that they don't, and win easily.

As Evidence in the Case of DEEZ NUTS vs YOUR FACE, I submit: BEAST MODE vs WHY DO YOU NOT KNOCK THE BALL DOWN WHEN THE MAN THROWS THE BALL?

Colorado at Cal (-13.5)

I root for WSU and Michigan, so yeah, I'm going to lean on the Hawks beating the vile Broncos all I can, where ever I can. It's been nice that I've cultivated an unreasonable dislike for Denver at the same time as my football team keeps kicking them in the nards. YOU LIKE HOW WE LET YOU BACK IN JUST TO CRUSH YOUR SOULS? I DID (I did not).

Cal does not really play the defense, and while Colorado is bad, 13.5 is a big ole number. Cal's kinda following WSU's rebuilding patter (but better, dammit), which means they lose this game in heartbreaking fashion. They won't though, see earlier parenthetical. I think this is pretty close.

A Big Dumb Robot Driven By An Off Brand Ninja Turtle vs Aww **** The Puppy Grew Fangs

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Stanford (-8) at Washington

UW looks like they might be good. Yeah, going down 14-0 to Georgia State is bad, but blowing their dicks off in the second half is impressive. Have a feeling what we're seeing is UW really getting their stuff together, Petersen and his staff kinda falling into place, and something scary happening.

Stanford is a very good team coached by a damn moron (or maybe a non moron with some outmoded ideas about football that should look at Brady Hoke and realize that's his future), and I think this will be the second game he costs them. Playing conservative vs all these Pac12 teams that can score tons isn't a good luck imo.

You Would Not Believe Our Moral Rushing Yards Per Game vs Cult Heroes in Ann Arbor

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WSU at Utah (-13)

Any WSU fan who doesn't regard the Oregon loss as a moral victory is kidding themselves. I've been happy all week because we looked like a real team. This game will be a real test to see if we can keep up that effort and focus on the road against a team that isn't going to inspire the same emotions. No idea what's going to happen.

Utah didn't so much win the game vs Michigan as much as they stood by while they imploded. Travis Wilson decided to leap for extra yards on a 3rd down run that was going to be like 5 short of the line anyway and got his face removed as a result. I guess he's still going to play, because who cares if you can walk or talk at 40.

I hate to admit it, but Utah probably wins in a walk. There's more evidence this WSU team is a mess than there's not, but at least now I've got hope.

Wait, Y'all Aren't in the WAC? I couldn't tell vs An Enigma, Wrapped in a Riddle, IN A CONDOM. HIYOOOOOOOO

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Oregon State at USC (-9)

Oregon State has played nobody, and nobody did better than they probably should. USC beat a bad Fresno team, accepted David Shaw's forfeit, and let BC run all over them, which frankly just makes Stanford look bad. There's still a shot USC is pretty good, they sure seem like they should be.

I think this is a game where USC, having not just played a physical Stanford team, having not just traveled to the other side of the nation, and having had a week off shows up feeling good and just murders OSU.
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09-24-2014 , 05:34 PM
rut roh, Dids picking ASU. Guess we lose.
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09-24-2014 , 05:44 PM
I enjoy your writeups. Nice job with the baby mascots.
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09-24-2014 , 07:01 PM
Thanks.

Pope, I thought about going back and seeing how good/bad my predictions have been, because I feel like the answer is "awful" but that seemed like it would make me sad.

I had a super dumb opinion on ASU for most of last year. Really made me re-look at how I was judging things.
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09-26-2014 , 10:50 AM
WELP.

OK UCLA, so we know you've got a top gear. (but boy, y'all gave up a lot on D) Now show that you can do that every week.

I still think this team blows 2 games. This may be motivated by **** Jim Mora.
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09-26-2014 , 12:13 PM
Thanks a lot Dids
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09-28-2014 , 12:05 AM
Went to the game. Lol discipline, but I will take it
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09-28-2014 , 12:15 AM
Looking forward to hearing from Dids
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09-28-2014 , 12:25 AM
Yep, nice win for the Cougs
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09-28-2014 , 01:43 AM
Awesome win for the Cougs. Feels like we can maybe salvage a .500+ season now. I feel a lot better about being able to beat Cal at home next week than I would have after the first week of the season.
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09-29-2014 , 11:20 AM
That was pretty awesome. A combination of reaching the acceptance phase on this team early, and knowing at a 21 point lead in a monsoon isn't safe, I never felt that bad about the game early.

Utah basically made 3 plays all day (and one of those was just being there for the Bad Connor Experience), they just all happened to go for touchdowns. (and then Drez Anderson super didn't make a play that would have forced WSU to score on Utah again, so let's not pretend that was going to matter) WSU's defense balled the **** out for all but one run. So proud of the way the team played. Just answered nearly all the questions I had after the first two games. Feel so much better about Mike Leach, seemed like he got the team's head in the right place and made all the right strategic adjustments.

WSU has two good running backs now. The Wicks kid seems like he gets two more yards than he should every time he touches the ball.

Wes Welker memes are so played out that you can feel people's pride in not dropping his name in comparison to River Cracraft. That dude is going to be a 3rd down machine until he's 40.
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09-30-2014 , 05:35 PM
HEY KEITH JACKSON, GUY WHO GOT HIS FIRST BROADCASTING GIG FROM MY GRANDFATHER AND SEND HIM CHRISTMAS CARDS UNTIL HIS DEATH? I HEAR IT'S TIME FOR SOMETHING, WHAT COULD THAT BE?



THANKS KEITH!! (The story is that while a broadcast student at WSU he walked up to my grandfather, who ran the radio station and told him the broadcasts were ****, so Grandpa gave him the gig and challenged him to be better, 40% chance it's BS to some degree, but they were homies. I met him once, we sent to see him speak at some WSU function, we sat like 20 rows up, and Keith stomped up to say high to my dad and grandfather and gave them crap about making him walk).

(somewhat early version this week because of travel)

BUT FIRST, LAST WEEK'S GAMES


Ok Yeah, But Earthquakes

UCLA 62 ASU 27
USC 35 Oregon State 10

We Caught A Case Of B1G

Stanford 20 UW 13

RAIDS OF ALL FLAVORS > YOU

WSU 28 Utah 27
Cal 59 Colorado 56 (Bros, let's stop going for it on 4th down in OT when we don't have to. Settle down and contain your testosterone)

AND NOW THIS WEEK'S GAMES

Forgive the coach if he spends the whole game looking to the northeast, pointing and laughing vs Fast Car, Danger Fire and Water Fowl

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Arizona at Oregon (-23) (Thursday)

So take a place that's already a hostile zoo, set it at night and turn everything up for Thursday and man- the atmosphere for this game should be awesome.

Arizona's schedule remains unimpressive, depending on what you think of Cal. They can score, and probably will on an Oregon team that isn't defending so great. Problem is they can also let the other guys score, and Oregon's real good at that.

Weirdly, Scott Frost's name is starting to pop up in coaching rumors, and I don't understand why. One year as an OC in an environment where the head coach (and previous head coach) had a ton of influence on the offense and it's not as good as it was two years ago? Now would be a good time for Oregon to demonstrate that they're not the team that nearly lost to WSU.

I think Arizona gets stomped, but still puts up 25+ points.

David Shaw is a Ninja Turtle name Kinkade vs Some guys still paying Charlie Weis

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Stanford (-2) vs Notre Dame

I was so annoyed that UW couldn't make Stanford pay for their crap offense. David Shaw's play calling (and the stupid idea that you can have dueling playcallers) makes me super mad and I want to see it punished. Wasting talent is a damn crime.

Wrong team is favored here. Notre Dame has has been doing exactly what Stanford hasn't- beating suspect teams like they should. I think Golson goes off here and it's a 7+ point win.

I can probably be counted on for unreasonably harsh opinions of Stanford for the rest of the year.

Reality Bites Trees vs We're even overrated as meat

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Oregon State (-7.5) vs Colorado

Playing a real football team didn't work out so well for Oregon State. This is exactly what should happen if none of your OOC games are vs power 5 teams. Sleepwalk through some softies and then get rolled by a suspect USC squad. THAT IS WHAT YOU GET BEAVERS.

Colorado remains bad, especially on D, and Manion will throw for 400+ yards.

I'm not on speaking terms with you guys vs and suddenly our AD seems awful swell, don't he?

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Arizona State vs USC (-12)

USC's schedule looks worse and worse. Fresno appears to be dog poop, BC is losing silly games, Stanford looks hamstrung by their coaching, Oregon State is still Oregon State.

ASU on the other hand are a bunch of non promise living up to, making me wrong assed so and sos and cannot be trusted.

Very few results here would surprise me, I think 12's a pretty big line and maybe ASU covers.

Out of the thing that's hot and into the thing that's so so much hotter vs Glad you fellas could finally join us

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Utah vs UCLA (-13)

As much as the WSU fan in me would like to believe otherwise, Utah is not good, and the team that basically no showed on offense vs an improving but less than stellar WSU defense now has to face a very good UCLA team that seems to have figured it out.

13 isn't nearly enough here. I think this is a laugher and Utah will be lucky to be within 3 scores.

I've asked Xavier Cooper, and he thinks your souls will go well with garlic butter, season up mother****ers vs Just a Godamn Bunch of Superheroes

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Cal vs WSU (-3.5)

I will be that this game. There's going to be all the points scored and it's going to last till midnight and boy howdy are Mom and Dad going to love that.

WSU's defensive resurgence basically game from great d-line play, and much like WSU's own offense, Cal's will minimize that with quick throws. WSU's defensive backfield is now starting a ****load of children, and I'm pretty worried about that.

However, Cal can't defend at all, and WSU's offense is really starting to click. A solid ground game now supports the passing game and it's host of excellent receivers. This game should be super fun and I'm kinda jealous I have to watch it while caring about the result.
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09-30-2014 , 06:13 PM
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Weirdly, Scott Frost's name is starting to pop up in coaching rumors, and I don't understand why. One year as an OC in an environment where the head coach (and previous head coach) had a ton of influence on the offense and it's not as good as it was two years ago?
The last time Oregon's OC got a head coaching job (see Helfrich, Mark) he won 15 of his first 17 games... and counting... despite all the same question marks you just raised applying to him.

The time before that also worked out pretty well, with some guy named Chip, and he only had two years of experience at OC himself.

I think the theory is that you don't get to be OC at Oregon in the first place unless you're pretty much ready to be a strong head coach elsewhere. And so FROST! I'm not 100% sure how valid the theory actually IS (although Tedford, Bellotti, and Koetter are all also former Oregon OCs who were all pretty solid as head coaches themselves), but that's the theory.
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09-30-2014 , 06:41 PM
I know CFB's most visible Oregon fan (Dan Rubenstein of SB Nation/Solid Verbal) is pretty lukewarm on Helfrich and Frost. How common is his opinion?

All I know is having had both WSU's football and basketball programs crushed by bad coaching hires (and seeing the cluster**** at Michigan), I'm pretty in favor of being super low risk. Taking a guy who hardly even has his OC big boy pants on yet and putting him in charge of a whole program, scary.
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09-30-2014 , 09:01 PM
re: the Wookie Trees vs Notyour Dame
i preface this by acknowledging that i have not seen a single snap of a ND game this season, but i am aware of the statistical dominance the Tree defense has been posting. Does ND have the realistic expectation to score enough points to cover the line?
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09-30-2014 , 10:47 PM
Cal run defense has actually be fantastic this year... but our pass defense is just crazy bad. We just don't have guys. Everybody back there is either a true sophomore or redshirt freshman, and it's getting worse... not to mention the fact that we can't pressure the passer at all
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10-01-2014 , 07:38 PM
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re: the Wookie Trees vs Notyour Dame
i preface this by acknowledging that i have not seen a single snap of a ND game this season, but i am aware of the statistical dominance the Tree defense has been posting. Does ND have the realistic expectation to score enough points to cover the line?
Kelly might be a closet Briles lover, a growing % of the offense is the chuck it down the sideline into single coverage. I dunno if the Tree has seen a lot of that this year.
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10-02-2014 , 06:14 PM
If Oregon can't protect Mariota then it will be a long night. In addition it will add more pressure and stress on Mariota to perform and run - thus increasing his chances at being picked off and for injury. This simple factor will be make or break for each upcoming game for Oregon.

I find I must root for Stanford against the ND scum. But if Stanford does lose then I hope it is by a score of 59-17. Then it will be up to USC to throw the ND faithful into the pits of Hell for the PAC-12.
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10-02-2014 , 08:40 PM
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I know CFB's most visible Oregon fan (Dan Rubenstein of SB Nation/Solid Verbal) is pretty lukewarm on Helfrich and Frost. How common is his opinion?

All I know is having had both WSU's football and basketball programs crushed by bad coaching hires (and seeing the cluster**** at Michigan), I'm pretty in favor of being super low risk. Taking a guy who hardly even has his OC big boy pants on yet and putting him in charge of a whole program, scary.
I finally read the Grantland article on Helfrich today (yeah, i know it was only posted yesterday) and although the title is a little misleading when compared to the content, Weinreb makes a few good observations on the expectations placed on Helfrich. http://grantland.com/features/mark-h...ks-chip-kelly/

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His friends and assistant coaches have lauded the fact that his approachable persona hasn’t changed at all since he took the head job. But he’s also in a strange position: Because it was Kelly who implemented the offensive system that elevated the program, Helfrich’s tenure is largely expected to be a continuation of the Kelly Way. If Helfrich succeeds — as he did in beating Michigan State in early September — then many will consider his successes to be part of the continuum of Kelly’s successes. But every failure and near-failure — as with Oregon’s rickety 38-31 victory over Washington State on September 20, which exposed some of the Ducks’ inherent weaknesses on defense and on the offensive line — will serve as a reminder that he is not Kelly, that he is a largely inchoate head coach who does not possess the eccentric aura of genius that Kelly carried with him.
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Still, there remains a palpable sense of apprehension in Eugene, both about Helfrich’s abilities and about Oregon’s place in the larger college football universe. It is a bizarre moment to be an Oregon football fan, especially one with a historical perspective, because even though the national bandwagon has grown considerably over the past decade, the trauma of Oregon being historically terrible in the 1980s still lingers for longtime fans.

“It’s not a house of cards,” Swangard says. “But it’s still a fan base that feels uncomfortable in their own skin. No one here is saying we’re destined for a major step back. But with the expectations come the questions of whether it’s sustainable.”

And that feeds into doubts about Helfrich, who, like Kelly, failed to beat Stanford in his first season, and then lost a disappointing game to Arizona (in part because Mariota was not at full strength after suffering a knee injury). All of which raised concerns, once more, about whether the Ducks’ offensive system is inherently unable to hold up against a stout defensive front, and about whether Oregon’s defense will ever be formidable enough to slow the nation’s best, and about whether something ineffable remains missing amid this glimmering revival. The Michigan State win, while it helped assuage some of those concerns, also succeeded in raising the bar for this year’s team. Yet to those who witnessed the Ducks’ ignominious Toilet Bowl years and suffered through decades of mediocrity and frustration and daffy yellow helmets, the notion that an 11-2 season is somehow a disappointment feels almost like a cruel joke. (Among the people I spoke to, the word “fickle” was used more than once to describe the Ducks’ current fan base.)

“I hear people on the golf course say, ‘Mark’s no Chip Kelly,’” Palazzolo tells me. “I want to say, ‘Do you realize Chip Kelly’s not here anymore? Do you know he’s in Philadelphia?’ These people are spoiled. People say we had a bad year last year? We beat Texas [in the Alamo Bowl], for goodness sake.”
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10-03-2014 , 01:59 AM
Wait Oregon lost Wtf?
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