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Other than iwreckshop, who are the BAD SE p0sters? Other than iwreckshop, who are the BAD SE p0sters?

11-17-2009 , 11:59 PM
I've definitely enjoyed college hoops more at times when the Hawks were terrible and the Tarheels were great. However, not even in my greatest state of delirium or the Hawks deepest struggles did I ever think that college hoops wasn't a hack job in comparison to the NBA.

lol @ better defense
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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11-18-2009 , 12:18 AM
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HS basketballs layup conversion rate is like 71% I mean come on.
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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
NBA- offensive possessions without an offensive violation are 0%
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pretty sure you are essentially making a lot of these #'s up
26% of people reading this thread already knew that
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11-18-2009 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
my brain isn't shutting off

that is the point
my brain is clinging to the lost sense of innocence i associate with the game at the college level than at the NBA level
fyp

(or not, i just wanted to write that sentence)
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11-18-2009 , 12:26 AM
i see the same pro/college argument in football all the time. i think (besides that lost innocence / "psychology of a fan" stuff) that people who prefer the college competitions prefer the excitement and unpredictability that comes with, well, with having unskilled players. combine that with the atmosphere and energy of a college crowd, and there's no experience like it.

but people who want to see the game played at its highest level prefer the pros. they're not so much concerned about the event as an experience as about the game itself.
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11-18-2009 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Pudge714
I bet your brain is more stimulated by Berenstein Bears than Dostoevsky, that doesn't make it better.
"Better" is subjective.

Culturally significant would be more appropriate for this comparison. If you don't agree with Dostoyevsky's heavy philosophical musings, then it's not better.
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11-18-2009 , 12:54 AM
i wasn't serious about riverman being a bad poaster, but the other night wasn't exactly a career highlight
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11-18-2009 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
i see the same pro/college argument in football all the time. i think (besides that lost innocence / "psychology of a fan" stuff) that people who prefer the college competitions prefer the excitement and unpredictability that comes with, well, with having unskilled players. combine that with the atmosphere and energy of a college crowd, and there's no experience like it.
The reason why I like college more and this next part may sound racist but I do not really care because it is true, is simply because the NBA is full of tattooed up thugs who are all about 1 on 5 basketball. Of course there are exceptions and you have your Steve Nash here or your Tim Duncan there but the former is way too widespread.
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11-18-2009 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
but people who want to see the game played at its highest level prefer the pros. they're not so much concerned about the event as an experience as about the game itself.
Possibly. People who complain about the professional game being boring do have a point to some degree - the court size and net height have not meaningfully increased since the game's inception, yet better nutrition and strength training have made players much larger. You can make the argument that the dimensions of the court should be changed to reflect this, or you can just view it as the natural evolution of the game. But it's nearly impossible to argue that the game is just strictly "better" compared to the amateur ranks. In many ways the game is completely different, making strict comparisons impossible.

Last edited by anononon; 11-18-2009 at 01:23 AM. Reason: this is in reference to basketball
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11-18-2009 , 01:33 AM
I prefer watching NCAA basketball to NBA basketball. Arguing over which of them is "better" seems utterly silly since everyone can and probably will be using different criteria.
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11-18-2009 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by shipontilt
The reason why I like college more and this next part may sound racist but I do not really care because it is true, is simply because the NBA is full of tattooed up thugs who are all about 1 on 5 basketball.
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11-18-2009 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Pudge714
I bet your brain is more stimulated by Berenstein Bears than Dostoevsky, that doesn't make it better.
Not cool. Exploit Goosebumps if you must, but leave the BBears alone.
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11-18-2009 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by shipontilt
The reason why I like college more and this next part may sound racist but I do not really care because it is true, is simply because the NBA is full of tattooed up thugs who are all about 1 on 5 basketball. Of course there are exceptions and you have your Steve Nash here or your Tim Duncan there but the former is way too widespread.
Cue Chris "Mad Dog" Russo
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11-18-2009 , 02:19 AM
dmfish,
Just thinking about them because of this http://www.avclub.com/articles/beren...u-think,34913/
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11-18-2009 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by shipontilt
The reason why I like college more and this next part may sound racist but I do not really care because it is true, is simply because the NBA is full of tattooed up thugs who are all about 1 on 5 basketball. Of course there are exceptions and you have your Steve Nash here or your Tim Duncan there but the former is way too widespread.
NOT TO MENTION THOSE NBA FOOLS DONT PLAY DEFENSE
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11-18-2009 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pudge714
dmfish,
Just thinking about them because of this http://www.avclub.com/articles/beren...u-think,34913/
Sigh. The books are so much better than this movie can ever hope to be.

**** Hollywood.
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11-18-2009 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikhail's Fortunes
That was one guy randomly throwing the ball up in the air on a broken ply where his teammates were just standing around watching. Notice he got one second of hangtime with that lackadaisical one-handed toss. Someone doing it with more force to get better height could easily get two seconds of hangtime and there would be time for teammates to camp underneath the ball and knock it back up in their to either run more time off or draw a foul. Plus on this particular play all the guy had to do was throw it into the backcourt and the game is over. And again everyone was just standing around letting the guy take the shot. This is somewhat understandable since it was Toronto's ball to begin with and Washington only got it off a steal. If it was Washington's ball and a 1-3 point lead they could have executed this to perfection easily with less than four seconds left.
Really I just linked that for fun...but the guy did have an opportunity to THROW the ball and didn't manage to do it, what makes you think someone trying to punch it up will do it perfectly all the time?

In theory I think your idea could work but in practice it might not be so easy. Trying to get a good shot at the ball with a closed fist could easily result in some errant bounces or fouls called on you.

Also off-the-ball fouls apply if the player being fouled doesn't have the ball and isn't trying to possess the ball, if you're throwing the ball at the guy so he can slap it upwards, I'm inclined to think the ref is going to interpret the guy reaching for the ball as trying to possess it. Maybe if you explained to the refs beforehand what you were going to try.
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11-18-2009 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kyleb
Possibly. People who complain about the professional game being boring do have a point to some degree - the court size and net height have not meaningfully increased since the game's inception, yet better nutrition and strength training have made players much larger. You can make the argument that the dimensions of the court should be changed to reflect this, or you can just view it as the natural evolution of the game. But it's nearly impossible to argue that the game is just strictly "better" compared to the amateur ranks. In many ways the game is completely different, making strict comparisons impossible.
yeah, i think specifically with regard to basketball this is correct; the court should probably be expanded. i think my points are more applicable to football, but that's also what i'm more familiar with.
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11-18-2009 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by shipontilt
The reason why I like college more and this next part may sound racist but I do not really care because it is true, is simply because the NBA is full of tattooed up thugs who are all about 1 on 5 basketball. Of course there are exceptions and you have your Steve Nash here or your Tim Duncan there but the former is way too widespread.
well, it's a good thing you don't care about sounding racist
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11-18-2009 , 04:12 AM
Hey Chris Anderson is a tattooed up thug who is all 1 on 5 basketball. Reverse racism imo.

Last edited by Mikhail's Fortunes; 11-18-2009 at 04:13 AM. Reason: Although I bet he only got those tattoos so he wouldn't like out of place with the rest of the Nuggets like Kleiza
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11-18-2009 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kyleb
Possibly. People who complain about the professional game being boring do have a point to some degree - the court size and net height have not meaningfully increased since the game's inception, yet better nutrition and strength training have made players much larger. You can make the argument that the dimensions of the court should be changed to reflect this, or you can just view it as the natural evolution of the game. But it's nearly impossible to argue that the game is just strictly "better" compared to the amateur ranks. In many ways the game is completely different, making strict comparisons impossible.
Good post.
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11-18-2009 , 11:50 AM
MF,
Trackmarks imo
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11-18-2009 , 12:15 PM
i am offended that noone mentioned me itt
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11-18-2009 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kyleb
Possibly. People who complain about the professional game being boring do have a point to some degree - the court size and net height have not meaningfully increased since the game's inception, yet better nutrition and strength training have made players much larger. You can make the argument that the dimensions of the court should be changed to reflect this, or you can just view it as the natural evolution of the game. But it's nearly impossible to argue that the game is just strictly "better" compared to the amateur ranks. In many ways the game is completely different, making strict comparisons impossible.
+1,000,000

yet, the crazies up in canadia are refusing to build their ice rinks upto international size.
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11-18-2009 , 12:18 PM
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i am offended that noone mentioned me itt
I was thinking the same, especially after my performance in the World Series thread.
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11-18-2009 , 12:55 PM
I guess I'll continue to derail this thread further: imo, shipontilt was just being honest. A lot of people view the tats, cornrows, and black players and their inner racist tells them that something is wrong with the game. The funny part is that there is no shortage of tats, cornrows, and criminals in the NFL yet it's by miles the most popular pro sport. All I can think of is that people simply like that game more and aren't looking to assign reasons to contradict their preference.

As for MT2R and others who prefer college basketball, let them. They're going to like what they're going to like and it's utterly pointless to try to convince them otherwise, whether their reasons are aesthetic or racist (or both). But obviously saying that college is played at a higher level in any capacity is preposterous, and really isn't even worth addressing in any serious manner.
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