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11-28-2011 , 08:28 PM
Georgia beating LSU definitely helps Oklahoma State's chances of edging out Bama. It's not a guaranteed thing, but it probably drops the margin that OkSt needs to win by from like 25 to 10 or something.
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11-28-2011 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
Depends what the other choices are. I think they are taken ahead of Boise. If Michigan sneaks into the top 14, they probably go ahead of VT.
Isn't Michigan like a mortal lock to get taken if they're in the top 14? Gotta think that they'd be way more attractive than almost any alternative, right?


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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
The big10 divisions are relatively balanced, from a history stand point. Same thing with the Pac12 and SEC too IMO.

There are gonna be natrual flucations where the divisions will be unbalanced just to a few teams being up and a few teams down. Like in the SEC throughout the 90's the East was dominate, with Florida and Tennessee being pretty good. But LSU came to life in the early 2000's and Alabama once Saban arrived, and Tennessee went intot he toilet, so the West has been dominating.

The only divisions that were ever completely whack were the old Big12 North/South, you had Texas and Oklahoma in the South, by far the two best teams int eh conference, and a distant 3rd was Nebraska up North, along with some of the worst teams.
Pac-12 North > Pac-12 South at least for the next decade or so pretty clearly I think

I see Oregon as already elite, Washington, Cal (just finishing a HUGE facilities renovation) and Stanford on the rise (Stanford on the rise from traditional Stanford, to perennial top-25 team, obv not on the rise from back to back 11-1 seasons). Oregon State is probably on the way down but still has one of the best coaches in the country, and Wazzu is probably in better shape than Colorado.

UCLA's a disaster, although if they get Peterson is all of a sudden looking good, ASU's a disaster, USC is on the way down from "top 3 program in the country" to "elite" on par with Oregon for the near term future at least, Colorado isn't going anywhere soon and has no money, Utah I have no idea about, and Arizona has never been to the Rose Bowl in the entire history of the program but SEEMS to have made a good coaching hire, but still RR is 0-0 and has to prove himself.

If USC can somehow still be USC with all the scholarship losses in the future, then it's much more balanced
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11-28-2011 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
Depends what the other choices are. I think they are taken ahead of Boise. If Michigan sneaks into the top 14, they probably go ahead of VT.
Just lookinig at the BCS standings without digging any deeper, it seems possible if both Wisconsin and Georgia lose. If they both lose and Okie State loses this weekend, it seems like Okie State could get left out of the BCS.
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11-28-2011 , 08:46 PM
LOL at saying going 10-2 7-1 in the SEC is not a great year. I know whom we have beaten, but such an Auburn hater to not acknowledge UGA's season.
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11-28-2011 , 08:50 PM
Pac-12 North may be better, but definitely not to the point of being unbalanced or anything. Really, USC and Oregon are both going to dominate, Colorado and Wazzu both have some work to do, and every other team in the league is pretty interchangeable in terms of their future prospects. Oregon State, UCLA, Utah, Arizona, Washington, and Stanford could all easily be argued as the 3rd-place program in the league or as the 10th place program going forward.
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11-28-2011 , 08:55 PM
lol "7-1 in the SEC"

Georgia basically played a Big East schedule in conference this year. Their SEC wins are over teams with a combined conference schedule of 14-42.

I'm not saying that Georgia isn't good, I'm just emphasizing that if you ranked every conference schedule that each SEC team has played over the last 10 years, 2011 UGA is almost certainly 120th out of 120
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11-28-2011 , 09:01 PM
I think it is a great year when we beat our biggest rivalries regardless of the state of each school. We had a great year but I also realize we got a favorable schedule. I hope that the AD doesn't go overboard with an extension though for Richt. Although, if the players that are stating that they are going to return, I have huge feeling next year could be even better. So, if we don't give him an extension now, then we might have to pain big to extend him after next season.

All in all, I'm pleased with the season and will be rooting for all underdogs this coming weekend...
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11-28-2011 , 09:03 PM
Yeah, I don't mean to say UGA's bad or that they only won games b/c Florida, Auburn and Tennessee are turrible. And they did go 10-2 against an easy schedule, which is what a good team should do.

I just mean don't get all crazy reading into it or anything, and realize that a mediocre team like Cal would be favored over 10 of those 12 teams well
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11-28-2011 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
lol "7-1 in the SEC"

Georgia basically played a Big East schedule in conference this year. Their SEC wins are over teams with a combined conference schedule of 14-42.

I'm not saying that Georgia isn't good, I'm just emphasizing that if you ranked every conference schedule that each SEC team has played over the last 10 years, 2011 UGA is almost certainly 120th out of 120
an easy SEC schedule is still an SEC schedule, and not comparable to the Big East.

And yeah, of course UGA benefited from not having to play the top 4 teams in conference this year. I'm just lolling at all the haters for ragging on Georgia. I don't really care what Sagarin or whichever ratings are that say Cal is better than the 10 teams UGA beat this year, realistically anyone with a brane knows there's no way Cal is favored in each of those games.
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11-28-2011 , 09:40 PM
what no MNC mean? I assume the national championship game obviously just confused on the "M"
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11-28-2011 , 09:44 PM
UGA's results are ridiculously consistent with being a top 10-15 team this year. Nothing more, nothing less. We got beat by a really good squad in Boise, we played another top 10-15 squad in Carolina very close but lost, and we took care of business pretty consistently against a bunch of 30-50 teams. Most of the wins weren't runaways, but they were generally comfortable wins with a couple semi-close calls, which is something you expect a top 10-15 team to do.

And I'm sorry, but when you have four teams that are considered your rivals and you beat them all, you're allowed to say it was a great season. We're obviously not world beaters, but it was a great season by the measures that matter to Georgia fans.
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11-28-2011 , 09:45 PM
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what no MNC mean? I assume the national championship game obviously just confused on the "M"
Mythical. It's the cool people's way of saying it's somehow not as official as if there were no polls involved.
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11-28-2011 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
Yeah, I don't mean to say UGA's bad or that they only won games b/c Florida, Auburn and Tennessee are turrible. And they did go 10-2 against an easy schedule, which is what a good team should do.

I just mean don't get all crazy reading into it or anything, and realize that a mediocre team like Cal would be favored over 10 of those 12 teams well
You do realize Cal would have to play some of those games on the road, right?
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11-28-2011 , 09:48 PM
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You do realize Cal would have to play some of those games on the road, right?
Yeah I was just saying roughly. Also, being favored over 10 out of 12 teams != being favored to go 10-2 obv.
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11-28-2011 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
an easy SEC schedule is still an SEC schedule, and not comparable to the Big East.
Sagarin predictor ratings just for funsies

USCe 19 Cincinnati 32
Vanderbilt 33 West Virginia 34
Florida 35 Rutgers 43
Miss St 38 South Florida 46
Tennessee 54 Pittsburgh 50
Auburn 63 Louisville 59
Kentucky 94 Uconn 75
Ole Miss 115 Syracuse 87

Looks at least comparable!

Last edited by JP OSU; 11-28-2011 at 10:00 PM. Reason: Yes I may just be trolling the SEC at this point
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11-28-2011 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
Yeah, I don't mean to say UGA's bad or that they only won games b/c Florida, Auburn and Tennessee are turrible. And they did go 10-2 against an easy schedule, which is what a good team should do.

I just mean don't get all crazy reading into it or anything, and realize that a mediocre team like Cal would be favored over 10 of those 12 teams well
shut the hell up about the SEC
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11-28-2011 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JP OSU
Sagarin predictor ratings just for funsies

USCe 19 Cincinnati 32
Vanderbilt 33 West Virginia 34
Florida 35 Rutgers 43
Miss St 38 South Florida 46
Tennessee 54 Pittsburgh 50
Auburn 63 Louisville 59
Kentucky 94 Uconn 75
Ole Miss 115 Syracuse 87

Looks at least comparable!
Now give all the teams on the right side an extra loss.....kidding.....

And that's not really fair to have Auburn so low. Their ranking is distorted b/c of their blow out losses. Yeah they have 4 losses by at least 24pts but they should still be fringe top 25. ALL THEIR LOSSES ARE TO RANKED TEAMS.
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11-28-2011 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JP OSU
Sagarin predictor ratings just for funsies

USCe 19 Cincinnati 32
Vanderbilt 33 West Virginia 34
Florida 35 Rutgers 43
Miss St 38 South Florida 46
Tennessee 54 Pittsburgh 50
Auburn 63 Louisville 59
Kentucky 94 Uconn 75
Ole Miss 115 Syracuse 87

Looks at least comparable!
LOL, I was reading this as score predictions--by the time I got to the bottom I was like, "Did he switch to basketball predictions or something?"
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11-28-2011 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears

Georgia basically played a Big East schedule in conference this year. Their SEC wins are over teams with a combined conference schedule of 14-42.
but their record would be better if they hadn't played georgia


Last edited by PocketChads; 11-28-2011 at 10:12 PM. Reason: son of a bitch, joke doesn't work cuz it seems that record doesn't include UGA
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11-28-2011 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
Beating 3 crappy teams makes it an amazing year? (auburn, tenn. and florida)

And not having to play Arky, Bama, and LSU (reg season obv). Not taking anything away from UGA, they have had a great year. But they have been freerolling in a sense. Not having to play those teams makes UGA extremely lucky. Dont' feel like UGA's been challenged all year. Where is their signature win? Maybe Tech was a decent win. But if UGA doesn't get wiped off the field against LSU, I'll be extremely impressed with UGA and Richt.

By all means, go UGA and beat LSU.
whoooooooooooooooooooooosh

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Originally Posted by dlk9s
I think that was part tongue-in-cheek and part "it's always a great season for the Dawgs when they beat Auburn, Tenn, and Florida."

Just like with any school, regardless of the season they had, there's always a ray of sunshine when you beat your rival(s).


EDIT: Oh, and sorry my Wahoos sucked a big one against VT.
duh. UGA has four real rivalries and we beat all of them. First time since 1982 that's happened.

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Fair enough.

Same with auburn beating bama and losing every other game blah blah blah

But UGA fans will be back to looking for answers about Richt and his future if they get wiped off the field by LSU.
This is utterly ******ed. Richt is ultra safe at this point. He won 10 games, won the East, and beat every rival we have this year. He's got a better winning percentage than any coach in UGA history. LOL at 'looking for answers about Richt and his future'. Most UGA fans expect to get blown out and will still be extremely happy about this season, given that we are also an extremely young team and should be even better next year.

QB is a sophomore and already the best QB in the SEC, best RB and best WR are frosh this season, defense should return 8-9 starters from a top ten unit nationally. Richt is in a great spot.


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Originally Posted by T50_Omaha8
UGA's results are ridiculously consistent with being a top 10-15 team this year. Nothing more, nothing less. We got beat by a really good squad in Boise, we played another top 10-15 squad in Carolina very close but lost, and we took care of business pretty consistently against a bunch of 30-50 teams. Most of the wins weren't runaways, but they were generally comfortable wins with a couple semi-close calls, which is something you expect a top 10-15 team to do.

And I'm sorry, but when you have four teams that are considered your rivals and you beat them all, you're allowed to say it was a great season. We're obviously not world beaters, but it was a great season by the measures that matter to Georgia fans.
yes
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11-28-2011 , 10:21 PM
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whoooooooooooooooooooooosh
barners gonna barn
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11-28-2011 , 11:14 PM
UGA's schedule basically spotted them a 2 game lead against Florida and Tennessee and a 1 game lead against South Carolina, there was no excuse for them not to win the division.
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11-28-2011 , 11:37 PM
Who the hell cares if UGA had an easy schedule? They took care of their business, the East needs a representative, and UGA deserves the shot they're getting. Sorry USCe, don't **** the bed against mediocre teams. Hell, if they schedule a cupcake instead of Boise State we're debating whether UGA plays for the MNC if they beat LSU. Complaining about their conference schedule is so ******ed.

Confirmed mad
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11-28-2011 , 11:40 PM
Pretty funny to realize that out of the other 4 top 5 teams in the SEC, Bama dodged 2 of them and got the other 2 at home.
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11-29-2011 , 12:10 AM
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Pretty funny to realize that out of the other 4 top 5 teams in the SEC, Bama dodged 2 of them and got the other 2 at home.
Oklahoma St got 2-3-4 in the Big 12 at home.

Oops.
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