agent fish, not trying to make excuses. As I said they clearly outplayed us. No one can question that.

I don't think you can say they were clearly better. Anyone who follows KU football knows Collins holds that line together and you could clearly see the guy could barely walk. Add in that Reesing wasn't able to be as mobile and it was a tough combo for that offense.

That's not an excuse. That's just football. People get hurt and it can kill you. Obviously Missouri had plenty of penalties as well but they probably don't add up to nearly as much as the injuries, picks, and FGs.

I'm not trying to say Kansas was better or would've won when healthy and with fewer mistakes. I'm just saying that it seemed pretty apparent to me that these are evenly matched teams.

Few people outside of the state of Kansas agree with you.

I hate both teams, but based on just this one game I'd guess Mizery would win about 60% of the time.

I think the final score was closer than the actual competitveness of the game.
Mizzou definitely looked like the better team and if they had a rematch this week or next I would expect the Tigers would win again.
I really thought this game was going to be closer than it was and actually thought KU was a slight favorite but Mizzou absolutely looked like the better team.

Well I guess I am in the minority. Certainly we really struggled to stop them when they had the ball. But given the strength or our offense when healthy and their usually spotty defense I don't think it's a stretch to think that a healthy Kansas, or one with fewer mistakes, could've put up a lot more points.

I'm not trying to persuade the world, just giving my perspective. I understand how others could draw a different conclusion from the game.

Using the Assani Fisher method of analysis (i.e. just watching games and saying how I feel) I thought Mizzou was demonstrably better than KU. I have nothing against KU, they've been fun to watch all year but they seemed outclassed. I thought either of these teams was going to struggle mightily against OU but now I'm not so sure. Mizzou looked pretty good.

By the way, any "excuses" aside, I thought Anthony Collins performance was one of the gutsiest things I've seen in a long time. If you ever get the chance to see Kansas play live keep your eyes on #78. He's always the first down the field to celebrate a TD, he spends most of his time on the sideline jumping up and down (or he did, when he was able) and cheers like crazy. He has so much energy and love for the team, it's just amazing.

Fair enough, and that's admirable, but why is that gutsy? Gutsy is playing with a separated shoulder or badly sprained ankle or broken hand or something. He just sounds like a guy with a lot of pep and energy.

Last night Collins was literally almost unable to walk at times. I guess I was a little unclear, I was just commenting on his typical demeanor prior to this last game.

Tough game to analyze imo. I also thought Mizzoo was the clear better team. Overcame penalties, some questionable calls, etc. However KU also missed 2 FG's & had at least 1 bad redzone turnover that I recall. Mizzoo is def. favored in a rematch but a different outcome wouldn't shock me.

that is a priceless pic

Does KU always suck at tackling as they did last night?

Who knows? They didn't play anybody until last night.

And also our skill players are exceptional at breaking tackles/dragging defenders .

Kansas has been a very good tackling team this year. You can call me crazy but I swear in the past they've been exceptional in tackling against Mizzou and it was one of those little things that allowed them so much success in the match-up.

Last night's tackling was really bad. I got really tired of those little spin moves. A good tackler shouldn't be missing on a move like that unless we're in a video game.

You may have won the battle, but it appears we have won the war. BCS monies baby

Nice argument since it all gets split by the conference. :P

The BCS is a crock of ****.

I'd say it was more like Missouri won the war, and then Kansas got reparations.

mizzou getting ****ed is funny on soooo many levels. **** mizzou. apparently the bcs thinks the same way, no one likes mizzou.

You don't share the BCS money with the rest of the conference?

each team in the Orange Bowl gets 17.3 million or 17.5 million, i'm not sure how it is distributed among the conference, whether it is evenly distributed or the team going to a majority % then the rest is divided evenly.

not sure how BigXII works

in the Big11Ten...half the bowl payout goes to the school... the other half goes to the conference to be divided up equally

In the Big 12, the school gets paid their expenses first. Then it's divided 13 ways, one for each school and one for the conference itself. So KU doesn't make any more money than if MU had gone.

But at least this way they are a laughingstock and undeserving.

you shouldn't have lost to Oklahoma twice, that really hurt your chances.

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*~~Real Men of Genius~~*

Today we salute you, Mister Humiliated Missouri Tigers Fan

*~~Mister Humiliated Missouri Tigers Fan!~~*

You are number one in the country.
You beat your rival, and have a chance at the national title. Its time to print scoreboard t-shirts and worship civil war tyrants.

*~~We burned your town down!!!~~*

As fast as your QB could pick his nose,
your dream season came crashing down.
Your title hopes died in embarrassing fashion,
and your Chase cried like a little girl.

*~~Why does always this happen to me!?!?!?!~~*

Fifth downs, Tyus Edney, Quin Snyder and now the BCS, once again, you are the laughingstock of college sports nationwide. I bet you're feeling pretty pathetic right now.

*~~This is the worst day of my life!!!~~*

So crack open a Bud Light Mister self-professed cursed Tigers fan. Perhaps if you didn't mock WWII vets or people with cancer on national television, people would actually give a rats ass about you, and karma wouldn't be such a bitch.

~~Mister Humiliated Missouri Tigers fan~~ *