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Lakers in 4
18 25.35%
Lakers in 5
28 39.44%
Lakers in 6
11 15.49%
Lakers in 7
1 1.41%
Nuggets in 4
5 7.04%
Nuggets in 5
2 2.82%
Nuggets in 6
3 4.23%
Nuggets in 7
3 4.23%

04-19-2008 , 10:36 PM
Yeah, I was lazy. Rechecked the odds. 15% more like it.
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04-20-2008 , 12:10 AM
I don't think the Celts would lose even if Pierce and KG missed the entire series
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04-20-2008 , 12:16 AM
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I don't think the Celts would lose even if Pierce and KG missed the entire series
pretty sure they'd still crush without 1 of them, without 2 it'd be close, though Atlanta is horrible so Boston probably would get it done though they might lose a game
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04-20-2008 , 12:25 AM
In regards to Karl..

Denver is the most absurd super critical sports town. When the Broncos won the super bowl the media wasn't saying "Wow, what a team they put together, Shanahan did x, Elway did x". It was "Green Bay blew a double digit lead and Broncos nearly still let it slip away". The media and fans were calling for Shanny's head shortly after Elway retired because losing really isn't acceptable (which is funny because until the Avs and the first Bronco super bowl we weren't exactly the home of champions).

We sell out 17k seats to National Lacross League games, we sell out the CHL games.. the fans are insane with going to games and their support but the first time something doesn't look right they want someone fired for it. This is totally perpetuated by our insane media who is totally unfair. A good example is they are saying Melo and Iverson are awful for not caring, but Karl is mostly exempt. However, Shanny should be fired for not getting his players to play.

My point is if a team here loses, despite injuries or despite a stupidly competitive west someone needs to pay for it in Denver. Nuggets were exempt for awhile because they were irrelevant for a long time but now that they have tasted success they HAVE to win a playoff series or someone is losing their job. May be Karl, could be Iverson (opting out or traded or whatever). Won't be Melo. But someone will pay unfortunately because blood is demanded in this silly city and extenuating circumstances are not an excuse.

I don't know who is better than Karl that we can get in here.. but if we lose he probably will not be here next year.
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04-20-2008 , 12:30 AM
I kinda detracted from my main point which I sorta mentioned at the end, though.

When you fire someone, trade someone, cut someone.. whatever. It should be about getting better.. not feeling better because you got rid of someone that failed. I am conditioned to think the right thing to do is fire Karl but I really don't know who we get that is any better.. that makes us better.

But oh well.. we'll feel better anyways.
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04-20-2008 , 01:08 AM
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Good question. I agree with you that this has been a good season, in spite of what Nugs fans here in Denver think. Expectations were high at the beginning of this season, but if you couple injury problems with the depth of the West, 50 wins is very good, especially when you factor in their performance under pressure downt he home stretch.

I think most Nugs fans want to see Karl gone more for the way he coaches, and not neccesarily the results we've seen. Coming off cancer, he just doesn't have it in him to be an NBA coach anymore. What was once a pretty passionate now looks like someone just going through the motions.

I think he stays if they make it a close series, but I also think he might just pack it in this year anyway.
They need a defensive-minded coach......i think its the coaching here-- the team has the talent to be very very good (prob need an extra solid player from the bench who plays solid D)-- SCOTT SKILES anybody?
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04-20-2008 , 01:13 AM
I also have something to say........and I know the things i say are too advanced for most people to understand-- but bear with me yes? Thanks.

When people say "Team x has y % chance to win the series" i am always assuming that they are basically writing "As currently composed, barring any injuries to either team, Team x has y % chance to win the series". Case in point "If the atlanta hawks play like they've played during the game of the regular season where they played the best basketball, and they play this way for 7 games, its possible they win the series, and since this probably only happens 2% of the time, I say they are about 50-1 to win the series". When someone says "Team x has y % chance to win the series" I do NOT (as one poster in the regular NBA thread mentioned was his line of thinking) think along the lines of "Well the 2% chance of atlanta winning the series only means they have a chance to win the series if the 2% odds of boston incurring major injruies happens"-- thoughts? When you bet money on a team, are you betting on the nuggets as the underdogs to account for the fact that the lakers might undergo an injury to kobe or odom or something, or are you betting on the nuggets as the underdogs thinking that if they play their best basketball, they do have a shot to win.
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04-20-2008 , 01:16 AM
Uh obviously the line doesn't consider injuries.

I hope I'm not too simple to follow that paragraph.
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04-20-2008 , 01:19 AM
LETS
GO
LAKERS

Overrated baby

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04-20-2008 , 01:22 AM
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Uh obviously the line doesn't consider injuries.

I hope I'm not too simple to follow that paragraph.
Good, I didnt think so, someone in the NBA thread was like "Well that 3% chance of atlanta beating the celtics only means that the hawks can win if boston gets injured, and thats not really gonna happen too often, so thats why they give them that 3%"-- this thinking pissed me off, cuz i didnt think thats what the odds lines set meant AT ALL, but i wasnt gonna argue.
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04-20-2008 , 01:23 AM
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LETS
GO
LAKERS

Overrated baby

This is kobe's time baby, and I think anybody who questions that his desire to win right now is not far greater than anybody elses is just being silly.
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04-20-2008 , 01:23 AM
I guess I could be wrong.. I'm no betting expert.

But I am sure they don't count on % chance of injury there.
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04-20-2008 , 02:05 AM
Go Denver!!!
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04-20-2008 , 02:44 AM
The Lakers tried to simulate Smith's unpredictable shot selection by having Coby Karl fire at will in Saturday's scrimmage. Karl even launched a 28-footer, which, well, might be a little short by some Nuggets' standards. --------> lawl

Also
He was asked Saturday if he was hungry to win a playoff series.

"I've been waiting to eat for a while," he said. "The table's set. I'll sit down at the dinner table and I've got to finish my dinner."

Again.........anybody who thinks lebron's desire to win is as large as kobe's, you're just silly. Kobe is a ****ing sicko.
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04-20-2008 , 03:29 AM
i bet you any amount of money lebron ends up with more championships than kobe starting now
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04-20-2008 , 03:36 AM
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i bet you any amount of money lebron ends up with more championships than kobe starting now
I just threw up at the nonsensical nature of this statement. I mean...theres just so many things wrong with this statement its unbelievable. Do you realize that kobe's supporting cast has the ability to give him titles for the next at LEAST 5 years? Do you also realize that the next few years of lebrons career are as good as NO TITLE years in cleveland? Do you also realize you're asking me to bet money on something like 10 years, compared to lebrons 16 years? lol you sir, are funny. Almost got me banned, honestly ou did a fantastic job of baiting me, but you failed. Good effort though, just utter failure on your part.
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04-20-2008 , 04:45 AM
dsch reminds me of when i first started using the internet.
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04-20-2008 , 05:40 AM
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dsch reminds me of when i first started using the internet.
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04-20-2008 , 06:11 AM
Someone compared you to Skip Bayless. Pretty apt comparison, IMO.
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04-20-2008 , 07:03 AM
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I don't know who is better than Karl that we can get in here
Anyone.

Really.
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04-20-2008 , 07:05 AM
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Who else is going to the game
up in sec 319.
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04-20-2008 , 07:30 AM
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your posts embody a harmonal, overly emotional, know-it-all 12- or 13-year-old (this can really apply to any age up to about 16) so much that i am 100% convinced you are a gimmick account / poster, proven via the fact that you don't even try to understand anything remotely sensical or intelligent, you just go on and on about your one-track obsession.
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04-20-2008 , 09:51 AM
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Anyone.

Really.
I know you hate Karl.. and I think I do too.

But I'm not sure how much its the media conditioning me to want someone to pay for our failure.
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04-20-2008 , 11:10 AM
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The Lakers tried to simulate Smith's unpredictable shot selection by having Coby Karl fire at will in Saturday's scrimmage. Karl even launched a 28-footer, which, well, might be a little short by some Nuggets' standards. --------> lawl

Also
He was asked Saturday if he was hungry to win a playoff series.

"I've been waiting to eat for a while," he said. "The table's set. I'll sit down at the dinner table and I've got to finish my dinner."

Again.........anybody who thinks lebron's desire to win is as large as kobe's, you're just silly. Kobe is a ****ing sicko.
You know what happened the last time the Nuggets were an 8 seed?
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04-20-2008 , 11:13 AM
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I guess I could be wrong.. I'm no betting expert.

But I am sure they don't count on % chance of injury there.
Well it's pretty irrelevant, unless one team had a player made out of glass or something.
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