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View Poll Results: What is the most likely 1st round storyline in the Western Conference?
Chicago, eh? 3rd time's a charm...hopefully.
11 16.18%
Anyone know the "Heimlich Maneuver"?
4 5.88%
Hey, the season just started? Kool!
10 14.71%
TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMU!!!
3 4.41%
Mr. Underwood FTW!
1 1.47%
Our fans in Glendale will carry us through!
4 5.88%
Kopitarrrrrgh, where are you?
4 5.88%
"See you in the playoffs"? LOL!
4 5.88%
LOL Eastern Conference!
20 29.41%
"The refs screwed us over!"
7 10.29%

04-11-2011 , 08:45 PM
it is a shame you don't have money online
04-11-2011 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Etats360
Yeah, this is why NHL playoffs > NBA playoffs. The #1 seed is only ~60% to win the first round.
and cuz each series doesn't go on for-****ing-ever, and because the excitement of playoff hockey > all, and because the last 2 minutes of a basketball game last for 40 minutes, and because the NBA ****ing sucks, and because the NBA is ****ing rigged, and because HGH is a crybaby bitch, and because lebronmania is too intolerable, and cuz kobemania is too intolerable, etc etc etc
04-11-2011 , 08:52 PM
Wings in 5.

7 home games in one series is a huge advantage
04-11-2011 , 08:54 PM
racist
04-11-2011 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by STA654
If I had money online (I don't) I'd be very happy to bet on the Canucks to win round 1 at 60% (-150). I'd even take 65% (-185).

Canucks are better than the typical #1 seed and they will be more motivated too, considering who they're facing.
lol wat

Blackhawks are ridiculously good
04-11-2011 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitegoose
blah blah but blah blah if blah blah I don't care about what ifs. Fact of the matter is that ringing the puck around the boards on a wide shot gets you +1 FENWICK and gives the other team a free breakout.
Fact: Hockey is a fickle fickle game.

Quote:
DETROIT -- Nicklas Lidstrom was trying to shoot wide.

Instead, the puck took a crazy deflection, helping the Detroit Red Wings to a much-needed victory.

Lidstrom's shot bounced off the stick of Edmonton's Andrew Cogliano and into the net, tying the game with 24.8 seconds left in the third period. Pavel Datsyuk then scored with 42 seconds remaining in overtime to give the Red Wings an improbable 2-1 victory over the Oilers on Friday night.

"They had a guy come out in the shooting lanes and I couldn't get it on net so I tried to shoot it wide because I knew we had players over there," Lidstrom said. "I think the goalie reacted to the shot going wide. It got tipped and he couldn't get back in position."
You saying every wide shot leads to an odd man breakaway is a lot more silly and arbitrary than the FENWICK.
04-11-2011 , 09:12 PM
As the Avalanche epically failed this season, I'm on the Bolts bandwagon for the playoffs.
04-11-2011 , 09:14 PM
Seems like a great time to post the advance probabilities according to pinnacle:

Team advance prob
Tampa Bay Lightning 43.2%
Pittsburgh Penguins 56.8%
Phoenix Coyotes 36.8%
Detroit Red Wings 63.2%
New York Rangers 34.0%
Washington Capitals 66.0%
Chicago Blackhawks 34.4%
Vancouver Canucks 65.6%
Nashville Predators 45.8%
Anaheim Ducks 54.2%
Montreal Canadiens 34.7%
Boston Bruins 65.3%
Buffalo Sabres 41.6%
Philadelphia Flyers 58.4%
Los Angeles Kings 29.5%
San Jose Sharks 70.5%
04-11-2011 , 09:14 PM
I love how 21 people picked the Nucks. they are the most likely of the top 3 seeds in either division to lose in the 1st round. Id say if they lose game 1 they lose series 75% of the time, maybe more
04-11-2011 , 09:16 PM
man i would bet chicago and buffalo for sure
04-11-2011 , 09:17 PM
the green men will make history....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEqQG...eature=related
04-11-2011 , 09:19 PM
That shot wasn't wide though, it was a goal
04-11-2011 , 09:20 PM
I never said every wide shot leads to an odd man rush.

I said that missing a shot wide and ringing it around the boards is bad because it CAN lead to a breakout. A breakout is not the same thing as a breakaway, btw.

Lidstrom is amazing so his "wide shot" was probably 3-4 feet wide and had 0% chance of ringing around the boards leading to a breakout. He knows what he's doing. Someone find the video and I bet this can be proven in my favor.


Fouund video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66D8qjVT_pw

This shot has 0% chance of ringing around the boards because of where he aimed it, the speed and height of the shot, and the amount of people in the way. It's not the kind of shot I was talking about.

But FENWICK doesn't discriminate on the literally 1000s of kinds of shots you can take in a hockey game.
04-11-2011 , 09:43 PM
other. I am hoping to see LA break out
04-11-2011 , 09:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triumph36
vancouver probably has a higher than 32% chance of losing in the first round
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Originally Posted by Triumph36
it is a shame you don't have money online
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Originally Posted by Triumph36
man i would bet chicago for sure
what odds, and how much?
04-11-2011 , 09:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triumph36
it is a shame you don't have money online
This.
04-11-2011 , 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by goofyballer
That shot wasn't wide though, it was a goal


Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitegoose
Lidstrom is amazing so his "wide shot" was probably 3-4 feet wide and had 0% chance of ringing around the boards leading to a breakout. He knows what he's doing. Someone find the video and I bet this can be proven in my favor.
Yeah, he's known to purposefully shoot wide to take advantage of the active boards at Joe Louis.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitegoose
But FENWICK doesn't discriminate on the literally 1000s of kinds of shots you can take in a hockey game.
Yeah, that's kind of the point though right. Because that would be pretty much impossible it's just one metric among many that have varying strengths and weaknesses.
04-11-2011 , 10:06 PM
fair enough

I guess I see a post here or there talking about one team's FENWICK or another team's CORSI as a reason why they will win the cup, and get tilted to hell thinking people actually think this 1 stat alone is the infallible, ultimate indicator.
04-11-2011 , 10:13 PM
oops, scratch that, i should've done the math myself.

oh yes, +185 is correct. so yeah. CHI +185. whatever amount you want.

Last edited by Triumph36; 04-11-2011 at 10:20 PM.
04-11-2011 , 10:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Etats360
lol wat

Blackhawks are ridiculously good
This.
04-11-2011 , 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotwings18
I love how 21 people picked the Nucks. they are the most likely of the top 3 seeds in either division to lose in the 1st round. Id say if they lose game 1 they lose series 75% of the time, maybe more

Quote:
Originally Posted by JaredL
Seems like a great time to post the advance probabilities according to pinnacle:

Team advance prob
Tampa Bay Lightning 43.2%
Pittsburgh Penguins 56.8%
Phoenix Coyotes 36.8%
Detroit Red Wings 63.2%
New York Rangers 34.0%
Washington Capitals 66.0%
Chicago Blackhawks 34.4%
Vancouver Canucks 65.6%
Nashville Predators 45.8%
Anaheim Ducks 54.2%
Montreal Canadiens 34.7%
Boston Bruins 65.3%
Buffalo Sabres 41.6%
Philadelphia Flyers 58.4%
Los Angeles Kings 29.5%
San Jose Sharks 70.5%
.
04-12-2011 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by <3_Tha_Grind
This.
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Originally Posted by ???
Vancouver beats Chicago in 5 like 85% of the time if they meet in Round 1. Chicago has nothing left in the tank. The injuries to Sharp/Bolland just took all the wind out of their sails, as it leaves Toews/Kane/Hossa playing too many minutes, and because Nick Leddy is afraid of his own shadow, that leaves Campbell playing 30+ mpg on one leg.

Campoli has been good, though. Frolik has been pretty meh. Bickell/Dowell/Pisani all blow.

They need Sharp back in the worst way
i guess getting Sharpie back increased their chances to win by 20-30%?

Last edited by 72off; 04-12-2011 at 12:45 AM. Reason: or maybe you're confusing the Blackhawks and Bulls
04-12-2011 , 12:52 AM
Well the first post was obviously hyperbolic. But, yes, it makes a huge difference. PP gets much better, and instead of a top 6 of Brouwer - Toews - Kane and Bickell - Frolik - Hossa, Q now has a number of line combos that are much better.

Also, last I read, Bolland will be ready mid-series.

If true, this allows Q to re-unite the Sharp - Toews - Kane line and then have Frolik - Bolland - Hossa.
04-12-2011 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
as a Canuck fan I'd rather have Sharp in your line up than Byfuglien, but I think that is just for VAN/CHI.
So would Luongo.
04-12-2011 , 01:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MuresanForMVP
what type of injuries do they still have?
Manny is out, no Torres for games 1+2 due to suspension. AHLberts on injured reserve. The Canucks are in great shape, top 6 Dmen in the lineup.

      
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