I'll take all you mother****ers on. I ain't afraid of anyone.

I wanted to puke reading through the comments after the loss last night.

wow, great name. almost as good as Nana Papa Yaw Dwene "Pops" Mensah-Bonsu, Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo and Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso.

Jarome earned every single one of those names. True story.

meh there's nothing explicit about "most valuable". Very, very arbitrary. Reminds me of this one domestic assault call I took when I was a cop. Guy and a girl are riding home from the bar, girl is pretty drunk and gets pissed at the guy then hits him a couple times. They're arguing outside a motel and a random person calls it in, and I head on down.

In Maryland you can't arrest for 2nd degree assault (there's only 1st and 2nd degree assault in Maryland) unless there's the "domestic" qualifier which are 1). Live under the same roof (even for a night at your friend's place, and even if it's 2 guys) 2). Visible signs of injury and 3). within 48 hours. If those conditions are met then it's essentially mandatory that you make an arrest, regardless of whether or not the victim tells you not to. In a criminal justice class I took they taught us that it was 100% mandatory to make the arrest, that's how bottom line it was.
Well, the two "combatants" were calm, despite their drunkenness, and for whatever reason I didn't think it would be an issue later. So I talk to one of the older officers and I'm like "well all the conditions are there for a domestic assault lockup, but I just don't know about this one". So the older officer says to me "the spirit of the law is separation, but if you don't think that's really necessary then don't make the arrest and write a supplement (to my supervisor) explaining why you don't want to". So there you go, a long story, trying to explain what "in the spirit" means. Wait who am I writing this to? Where's my beer?

I'm not going to get into it again with you Muresan, and it's not like I don't think Ovechkin has a legitimate case for the Hart, but the trophy isn't always about who has had the best season. And as good as Ovechkin's numbers have been, they are inflated dramatically from playing on such an absurdly dominant offensive team. As you have said, Malkin has been lackluster this year. Fleury has been a little dissapointing too. Crosby has been playing with grinders all year and is leading the league in goals. His assist numbers are bad, but he didn't randomly regress as a playmaker. It's called playing with arguably the worst pair of wingers in the league. They're on completely opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to linemates. If you think Ovechkin should win then fine, I don't blame you. I just resent that you don't even seem to think he has a case for being the league MVP when he clearly does.

hahahahaha the same thing happened to my friend, except it was a coca-cola. we got on-the-board seats for a Rangers/Ducks game in 2001 and lindros crushed a guy into the boards and the coke literally went flying onto his lap. it was fizzing in mid air it was such a massive hit.

+1

It also never goes to a non-playoff player, so there is tons of subjectivity to how it is voted upon. Ovechkin is also at a disadvantage since he's already won it twice, and voters will be more inclined to give it to someone who hasn't won it as much.

Trying to think of a joke about the Sedins being twins and banging you in the ass while you're in a blindfold, and you having to spin around like in Wild and Crazy Kids then having to guess your penetrator but I got nothing...

Ovechkin = better season
Crosby = more valuable

NEXT!

FlyingRat lemme know what my avatar is and I'll dawn it sat-wed

lol i'm serving consecutive avatar sentences

B-. Every Canucks fan knows that Daniel has the longer peen.

Doesn't count. Isn't a wall of text.

Dschmidreu:Kobe
Muresan:Ovechkin

seriously though, the Ovie/Crosby debate is like the most tired hockey related debate we could have ITT

lol wild and crazy kids. i saw omar epps in 'deadwood' and was like 'shouldn't there be something involving water balloons here'

as long as the MVP talks are going on, here are some scoring stats

Minutes p/ Goal

G MPG
44 29.9 Alex Ovechkin (WAS)
42 32.7 Steven Stamkos (TAM)
45 32.9 Sidney Crosby (PIT)
41 35.3 Patrick Marleau (SAN)
20 35.5 Teemu Selanne (ANA)
31 36.9 Alexander Semin (WAS)
36 37.3 Marian Gaborik (NYR)
36 38.3 Dany Heatley (SAN)
25 38.3 Mike Knuble (WAS)
36 38.3 Ilya Kovalchuk (ATL)

18 38.5 Eric Fehr (WAS)
25 38.9 Guillaume Latendresse (MIN)
31 39.5 Alex Burrows (VAN)
26 39.6 Chris Stewart (COL)
30 39.9 Mikael Samuelsson (VAN)
20 40.3 Marian Hossa (CHI)
26 40.8 Patric Hornqvist (NSH)
32 40.9 Jeff Carter (PHI)
18 41.0 Scottie Upshall (PHO)
32 41.6 Zach Parise (NJD)

24 41.6 Danny Briere (PHI)
26 42.1 Mike Cammalleri (MON)
27 42.2 Jussi Jokinen (CAR)
20 42.5 Tomas Holmstrom (DET)
29 43.6 Bobby Ryan (ANA)
19 44.6 Alexander Steen (STL)
25 44.9 Phil Kessel (TOR)
25 45.3 Matt Moulson (NYI)
18 45.9 Milan Hejduk (COL)
31 45.9 Jarome Iginla (CGY)

20 46.5 Tomas Fleischmann (WAS)
32 46.5 Anze Kopitar (LOS)
19 46.7 Raffi Torres (CLS)
25 46.8 James Neal (DAL)
22 47.7 Thomas Vanek (BUF)
28 47.8 Henrik Sedin (VAN)
21 48.4 Brian Gionta (MON)
28 49.1 Rick Nash (CLS)
21 49.5 Marco Sturm (BOS)
26 50.1 Dustin Penner (EDM)

28 50.1 Nicklas Backstrom (WAS)
19 50.3 Daniel Sedin (VAN)
26 50.3 Patrick Kane (CHI)
20 51.5 Joe Pavelski (SAN)
23 51.5 Matt Duchene (COL)
22 52.3 Milan Michalek (OTT)
21 52.6 Niklas Hagman (TOR)
19 52.8 Niclas Bergfors (ATL)
26 52.9 Mike Richards (PHI)
20 53.1 Ryan Smyth (LOS)

21 53.4 Radim Vrbata (PHO)
25 54.1 Loui Eriksson (DAL)
22 54.5 Mason Raymond (VAN)
20 54.7 Rene Bourque (CGY)
20 54.9 Alexei Ponikarovsky (TOR)
21 55.1 Eric Staal (CAR)
21 55.9 Maxim Afinogenov (ATL)
21 55.9 Andy McDonald (STL)
23 56.4 Evgeni Malkin (PIT)
23 56.7 Stephen Weiss (FLA)

22 56.7 Jonathan Toews (CHI)
22 57.5 Brooks Laich (WAS)
20 57.7 Andrew Brunette (MIN)
21 58.4 Ryan Malone (TAM)
21 58.6 Patrick Sharp (CHI)
19 58.7 Martin Erat (NSH)
20 58.8 Lee Stempniak (PHO)
19 59.3 Kristian Huselius (CLS)
19 59.5 Troy Brouwer (CHI)
24 60.4 Corey Perry (ANA)

21 61.2 Mike Fisher (OTT)
24 61.4 Martin St. Louis (TAM)
22 62.0 Pavel Datsyuk (DET)
20 63.3 Ray Whitney (CAR)
18 63.7 Brian Rolston (NJD)

Do you have the list for grit per minute played?

I take exception to "inflated dramatically". He's not as good as Lemieux of course, but the guy put up 106 pts with rubbish, man. I just don't think linemates affect a player like him as much as a playmaking center like Crosby. Considering their rookie years to be the "control" year, Ovechkin clearly outproduced Crosby with similarly terrible linemates. I think my biggest fear is that if Crosby wins a 2nd Hart trophy everyone conveniently forgets admitting that Ovechkin was the better player this year and starts clucking about how "well they both have 2 Harts!" So I want everyone of you *********** to remember telling me explicitly that Ovechkin is still the best player this year. I live in Maryland a5, I probably deal with more idiot Pens fans than you do up in Jersey.

I've stumbled upon a new hockey statistic. It's named KPT. The league leader usually is the Stanley Cup favorite.

Team	KPT
Montreal	2.00
Anaheim	0.00
Atlanta	0.00
Boston	0.00
Buffalo	0.00
Calgary	0.00
Carolina	0.00
Chicago	0.00
Colorado	0.00
Columbus	0.00
Dallas	0.00
Detroit	0.00
Edmonton	0.00
Florida	0.00
Los Angeles	0.00
Minnesota	0.00
Nashville	0.00
New Jersey	0.00
NY Islanders	0.00
NY Rangers	0.00
Ottawa	0.00
Philadelphia	0.00
Phoenix	0.00
Pittsburgh	0.00
San Jose	0.00
St. Louis	0.00
Tampa Bay	0.00
Toronto	0.00
Vancouver	0.00
Washington	0.00

I don't understand the logic of "he's on a dominant offensive team, so he should be penalized." Don't you think that maybe, it's because of Ovechkin that they are so dominant on offense?

wow Tavares 5th point of the night

is it widely known that Mario Lemieux didn't like jagr?

Don't you mean Omar Gooding? I guess they all look the same to you, eh? RACIST

Watched a good amount of the Rangers game tonight. Was that game uncharacteristically sloppy or are is it just an lol Rangers type thing?