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04-05-2010 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingRat

If you watch it, gimme some cliff's notes. I only have NHL Network on the TV in the living room and I don't wanna get out of bed.
P.K. Subban's favorite pizza topping is pepperoni.

Edit: I missed a conversation with Geno? That makes me sad.
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04-05-2010 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteGoose
The Washington Capitals are not capable of winning the Stanley Cup because they don't have the guts to go 20+ hard fought games. Vancouver can't win for the same reason. Who is going to lead Washington? Tom Poti and Mike Knuble? Yeah, Ovechkin is great, but not even Gretzky or Lemieux won the Cup single handedly.

Just look at the list of cup winning teams since 1991. They all have;

-Either a veteran Canadian/American or young Canadian superstar as their captain (1 exception)
-A current all-star goaltender, one of the best goaltenders in the world (0 exceptions)
-Insanely solid defensive defensemen (0 exceptions)

Washington has none of the above.
You don't need a Canadian captain to win Stanley Cup. You don't need an all-star goaltender to win the cup either, just look at all the goaltenders like Osgood, or Fleury who have won it recently. I'll kinda give you the defenseman part, but they're completely dominant 5 on 5, it's the PK that gives them trouble. If there's going to be a downfall that's it, but they have a better shot at winning than all but Chicago on that list most likely.

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Originally Posted by FlyingRat
Yeah right.



If you watch it, gimme some cliff's notes. I only have NHL Network on the TV in the living room and I don't wanna get out of bed.
I couldn't really hear anything he was saying, my B
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04-05-2010 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MuresanForMVP
I looooveeee how he starts out with that then immediately says Montreal has a shot at winning the Cup, while Washington doesn't, while also saying that Pittsburgh has a better chance than Jersey or Washington after losing all 10 games against those two opponents so far this season.
How long have you been following hockey? This statement shows how little you know about it. The regular season becomes completely irrelevant in the playoffs in hockey. I know this is not the same for American sports like NFL and NBA, but in hockey it is the case, and is one of the contributing factors as to why it is so awesome.

You must have been following hockey for at least one year, so look back to last year. The St. Louis Blues were one of the best teams in the NHL for the second half of the season and all of a sudden lost in 4 straight to the crap Vancouver Canucks (don't even argue this, they proved how crappy they were the next round.) Likewise, the San Jose Sharks were a great team all year and lost to the Anaheim Ducks in 6 games. Where was Joe Thornton on that one? Regular season is irrelevant.

I'm not trying to be mean or troll you, I just don't want people to have deluded expectations and end up being disappointed with a should-be expected result.
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04-05-2010 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteGoose
How long have you been following hockey? This statement shows how little you know about it. The regular season becomes completely irrelevant in the playoffs in hockey. I know this is not the same for American sports like NFL and NBA, but in hockey it is the case, and is one of the contributing factors as to why it is so awesome.

You must have been following hockey for at least one year, so look back to last year. The St. Louis Blues were one of the best teams in the NHL for the second half of the season and all of a sudden lost in 4 straight to the crap Vancouver Canucks (don't even argue this, they proved how crappy they were the next round.) Likewise, the San Jose Sharks were a great team all year and lost to the Anaheim Ducks in 6 games. Where was Joe Thornton on that one? Regular season is irrelevant.

I'm not trying to be mean or troll you, I just don't want people to have deluded expectations and end up being disappointed with a should-be expected result.
The regular season isn't close to the end-all, but it does have some value. I like to actually pay attention to hockey games during the season, as opposed to simply saying "well it means nothing" and throwing the baby out with the bath water come playoff time. In very few posts in this thread you've already thrown a ridiculous amount of hackneyed, BS, Canadian hockey cliches at me, it's actually quite impressive. Hell, I like you. Why don't you come over to my house and **** my sister?
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04-05-2010 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MuresanForMVP
You don't need a Canadian captain to win Stanley Cup.
Really? Because pegging that statement on two counterexamples in 115 Stanley Cup championships isn't what I'd call sound.

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You don't need an all-star goaltender to win the cup either, just look at all the goaltenders like Osgood, or Fleury who have won it recently.
I wasn't aware that Osgood and Fleury weren't ever considered among the top 10 goalies in the NHL.
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04-05-2010 , 03:37 AM
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I just don't want people to have deluded expectations and end up being disappointed with a should-be expected result.
isn't this what rooting for a team is all about?
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04-05-2010 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MuresanForMVP
Why don't you come over to my house and **** my sister?
Age?
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04-05-2010 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by crooked2412
isn't this what rooting for a team is all about?
Rooting for a team is when you watch their games and are happy when they win. It's different from expecting them to do well. Rooting is more like hoping. Expecting is well, expecting.
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04-05-2010 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteGoose
Really? Because pegging that statement on two counterexamples in 115 Stanley Cup championships isn't what I'd call sound.
So you contend that you need a Canadian captain to win a Stanley Cup? I think we're done here.



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I wasn't aware that Osgood and Fleury weren't ever considered among the top 10 goalies in the NHL.
LOL noone considered Osgood top 10, and outside of Pittsburgh, Fleury (aka Apolo Ohno) isn't considered top 10 either.
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04-05-2010 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteGoose
Rooting for a team is when you watch their games and are happy when they win. It's different from expecting them to do well. Rooting is more like hoping. Expecting is well, expecting.
I expect the Caps to advance to the ECF and beyond. You expect some mystical Canadian hockey-lore voodoo to stop that from happening. At least my expectation is grounded in reality.
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04-05-2010 , 03:48 AM
There are so many better holes in my argument to pick at. Like how I said Chicago and Detroit should be the two favorites when their goalies are Niemi and Howard, who aren't exactly all-stars as of right now.

Anyways, I hope for your sake that the Capitals fulfill your expectations this post season. I'm not a fan of the Caps, in fact they're my 3rd most hated team (after Vancouver and Ottawa) but it's not my personal style to wish dismay on any other person, so I honestly do hope that you aren't leveled by the Capitals performance in the playoffs.

In all seriousness, they're going to sweep Boston, then they'll have a good shot at beating Montreal if it turns out that way, if not, Buffalo/NJD will be a tough contender. Ottawa is a possible 2nd round but I'm sure Washington can plow through them.
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04-05-2010 , 03:49 AM
Goddamn. I forgot that the Sabres clinched the NE tonight. My entire argument is shot. The Capitals could realistically be playing the Penguins in the 2nd round. Man that would suck incredibly.
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04-05-2010 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteGoose
The Washington Capitals are not capable of winning the Stanley Cup because they don't have the guts to go 20+ hard fought games. Vancouver can't win for the same reason. Who is going to lead Washington? Tom Poti and Mike Knuble? Yeah, Ovechkin is great, but not even Gretzky or Lemieux won the Cup single handedly.

Just look at the list of cup winning teams since 1991. They all have;

-Either a veteran Canadian/American or young Canadian superstar as their captain (1 exception)
-A current all-star goaltender, one of the best goaltenders in the world (0 exceptions)
-Insanely solid defensive defensemen (0 exceptions)

Washington has none of the above.
The Canucks is 2.5/3.
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04-05-2010 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Wrane
The Canucks is 2.5/3.
I want to say that Luongo as the captain is too unorthodox to possibly win the cup, but I do believe that Bill Durnan captained the Habs to a cup or two in the 40s. Regardless of this, I am really hoping that the Canucks play Detroit in the first round because it will be hilarious. There's no way the Canucks win in the Joe Louis so they better be ready to win 4 at home
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04-05-2010 , 03:57 AM
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There's no way the Canucks win in the Joe Louis so they better be ready to win 4 at home
The Canucks did win at the Joe Louis this year. But, I guess b/c it was in the regular season it doesn't count.
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04-05-2010 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteGoose
Really? Because pegging that statement on two counterexamples in 115 Stanley Cup championships isn't what I'd call sound.



I wasn't aware that Osgood and Fleury weren't ever considered among the top 10 goalies in the NHL.
#1 - Have you considered that fact that the majority of NHL captains in history are either Canadian or American? God, this 'stat' is such bull****. You're right though, for some odd reason, an euro captain can't lead a team in the playoffs. Heartless, no WIM bastards right? Oh wait, Lidstrom.

Chara, Lidstrom, Koivu, Alfredsson, and Ovechkin are the only non-North American captains in the league btw.

#2 - I recall you saying...

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A current all-star goaltender, one of the best goaltenders in the world (0 exceptions)
When is a top-10 goalie one of the best goaltenders in the world? If you break it down to 30/6.8 billion, far enough. But top 1/3 (starters)...

And Osgood says hi.
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04-05-2010 , 04:04 AM
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There are so many better holes in my argument to pick at. Like how I said Chicago and Detroit should be the two favorites when their goalies are Niemi and Howard, who aren't exactly all-stars as of right now.
Not to mention HALLLLAAAAAKKKKKKK.

Nvm, 2 shutouts.
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04-05-2010 , 04:04 AM
Hey Whitegoose do you have a list of all the conditions that are necessary to fulfill before a team can possibly win the Stanley Cup? Can I find it online, or is it something given to every young Canadian boy in pamphlet form following their first game of Shinny? Do I have to drink a case of Molson Canadian, listen to Rush, while watching Hockey Night in Canada or Don Cherry's Rock 'Em Hockey in order to gaze upon it?
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04-05-2010 , 04:06 AM
If Ovechkin somehow managed to gain Canadian citizenship would the Capitals then be a favorite to win the Stanley Cup?
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04-05-2010 , 04:07 AM
Did you get mad when a filthy euro won the Conn Smythe trophy last year?
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04-05-2010 , 04:08 AM
Do you ever wish Bettman would just kick all those pansy, visor-wearing *** Euros out of the NHL? Hearken back to the good old days of 100% North American hockey? Oooohhh boy I'm getting hot just thinking about it!
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04-05-2010 , 04:09 AM
Have you ever watched video of Bobby Clarke slashing Kharlamov and begun masturbating furiously?
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04-05-2010 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Wrane
Heartless, no WIM bastards right? Oh wait, Lidstrom.
Chara, Lidstrom, Koivu, Alfredsson, and Ovechkin are the only non-North American captains in the league btw.
I accounted for Lidstrom being the 1 exception. And the 5/30 captains is pretty telling.

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Hey Whitegoose do you have a list of all the conditions that are necessary to fulfill before a team can possibly win the Stanley Cup? Can I find it online, or is it something given to every young Canadian boy in pamphlet form following their first game of Shinny? Do I have to drink a case of Molson Canadian, listen to Rush, while watching Hockey Night in Canada or Don Cherry's Rock 'Em Hockey in order to gaze upon it?
The list is guarded top secret by Hockey Canada. Sorry.

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If Ovechkin somehow managed to gain Canadian citizenship would the Capitals then be a favorite to win the Stanley Cup?
Not unless Ovechkin got traded for Crosby. Then the Capitals might be the favorite.
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04-05-2010 , 04:11 AM
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Did you get mad when a filthy euro won the Conn Smythe trophy last year?
Nah Malkin was the right call.

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Do you ever wish Bettman would just kick all those pansy, visor-wearing *** Euros out of the NHL? Hearken back to the good old days of 100% North American hockey? Oooohhh boy I'm getting hot just thinking about it!
Nah, there are a lot of good Euros. Bettman is the worst thing to ever happen to the NHL. Trapezoid, obstruction penalties, so much damage to players and clubs because of Bettman.

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Have you ever watched video of Bobby Clarke slashing Kharlamov and begun masturbating furiously?
It doesn't excite me sexually but it is one of the greatest plays in sports history.
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04-05-2010 , 04:13 AM
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Not unless Ovechkin got traded for Crosby. Then the Capitals might be the favorite.
Game, set, match.
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