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09-27-2009 , 04:36 PM

#1201

Infinite Greed

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There's also the A's blowing four straight 2-0 or 2-1 ALDS leads, 49ers getting screwed by Don Beebe's touchdown after being called down in 1996, Sharks owning the regular season every year and getting luckboxed in the playofs, and I almost forgot the '93 Giants missing the playoffs at 103-59 after blowing a 9.5 game lead with less than a month left.

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09-27-2009 , 04:37 PM

#1202

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And getting cheated out of Eric Lindros because of some ******ed rule that an expansion team can't get the #1 overall pick, a rule that lasted exactly one year.

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09-27-2009 , 04:38 PM

#1203

TheUntouchable

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IG,

They've won superbowls, you have no argument here.

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09-27-2009 , 04:40 PM

#1204

Debo9

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Greed,

New York has had more terrible losses as a sports city then SF. AINEC.

Yankees being up 3-0 and losing 4-3 against the RED SOX of all teams > all
The Met chokes back to back years
The Heidi Game
The Mud Bowl
The Fake spike

The list goes on and on

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09-27-2009 , 04:41 PM

#1205

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I know, you're right, I'm just tilted because I thought there was no way a team lose a game in a worse way than Buffalo in week 1, and it turns out there was.

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09-27-2009 , 04:42 PM

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trevorwc

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as mentioned earlier - Buffalo has 1/3 the teams of SF/SJ (and NY) - so the fact that the lists are comparable is pretty sick

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09-27-2009 , 04:43 PM

#1207

TheUntouchable

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NY is an even worse argument then SF. The Yankees have 26 championships. If you want to separate Mets/Jets/Islanders from Yankees/Giants/Rangers then you might have a point.

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09-27-2009 , 04:44 PM

#1208

chim17

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People are terrible at this discussion.

If you have had a dynasty -- you don't qualify.

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09-27-2009 , 04:44 PM

#1209

Infinite Greed

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And the NY Giants won in 2008, jesus, at least I've gone through 15 years of soul destruction before posting this.

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09-27-2009 , 04:45 PM

#1210

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And they won on a ****ing helmet catch

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09-27-2009 , 04:48 PM

#1211

trevorwc

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Correct - NY is absolutely ridiculous to even been in this discussion. 26 Yankee titles. Even the Mets have won it in the last 25 years (which is above expectation considering number of teams). Three Giants Super Bowls and a Jets Super Bowl. Rangers win a cup 15 years ago - Islanders even won a couple in the last 30 years. And it hasn't been THAT long since the Knicks won a title (late 70s?).

Joke to consider NY as the most heartbroken sports city or whatever.

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09-27-2009 , 04:52 PM

#1212

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I'll admit, if LeBron walks from Cleveland, that would be even worse than losing a single finals series by a close margin. Although, I'm secretly rooting for that to happen because of all the headlines and controversy it would generate.

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09-27-2009 , 05:01 PM

#1213

Pudge714

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Debo was being sarcastic

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09-27-2009 , 05:04 PM

#1214

Dominic

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Buffalo has got to have the homliest cheerleaders in the league.

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09-27-2009 , 05:07 PM

#1215

BANGARANG

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bills run so bad in football

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09-27-2009 , 07:47 PM

#1216

Kneel B4 Zod

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Originally Posted by Dynasty

That was a bit questionable. I'd like to see the math on that one when up 6 in the 3rd quarter.

The color guy's analysis that Belichick was going for it because the Patriots are frustred was stupid, of course.

there's really not gonna be any math on the specific scenario, b/c it's so rare. (if you are looking for historical results)

that said, all studies of "when to go for it" all basically say that coaches don't go for it nearly enough.

I think going for it on 4th and less than 1 is going to be right 99% of the time regardless of situation, assuming you are a good 4th and 1 team

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09-27-2009 , 07:59 PM

#1217

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How can it be correct 99% of the time? Even QB sneaks don't work a significant amount of the time.

One thing that bugs me though is the conservative play calling on 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1, especially for an average or worse offense that can't take it for granted to pick up a yard between the tackles. If you spread the field with three receivers and run play action + QB option, you'll either have a mismatch/open man downfield (with defense stacking the box and playing the run or short pass) or if they respect the pass, the QB can easily run for a first down and possibly more.

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09-27-2009 , 08:04 PM

#1218

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The TO postgame presser is going to make me bet against the Bills every game for the rest of the year. Bad TO is in full effect. QBs and coaches beware.

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09-27-2009 , 08:06 PM

#1219

Kneel B4 Zod

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Even QB sneaks don't work a significant amount of the time.

the Patriots were 77% on ALL 4th down attempts last year. wittle that down to 4th and under 1 and it's probably > 90% (as it is for other teams I'm sure)

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09-27-2009 , 09:01 PM

#1220

chim17

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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod

Wasn't the average value of that field position, according to Advanced NFL stats < 1 point.

A huge majority of time they convert and still punt soon and score no points.

The difference in value from missing the conversion and punting there is like 5 points in field position.

I really don't think it was correct.

Note: I didn't read gameday thread so if any of this was proven wrong already sorry.

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