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09-28-2015 , 07:19 PM

#201

MonsterJMcgee

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#prayersup for tyrod tho

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09-28-2015 , 07:24 PM

#202

Zimmer4141

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Am I missing something or is GB -4.5 tonight just the biggest free money hammer of all time?

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09-28-2015 , 07:28 PM

#203

A-Rod's Cousin

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Aren't they on the road in Kansas City?

And isn't their coach Fat Mike?

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09-28-2015 , 07:29 PM

#204

Palo

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Chiefs pass rush might cause problems for Rodgers. If I was betting I'd be taking Green Bay but I don't think it's free money.

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09-28-2015 , 07:30 PM

#205

Zimmer4141

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It's in Lambeau.

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09-28-2015 , 07:30 PM

#206

Dominic

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

well if anything, I think I'm better than the NFL at it at least (my results suggest it anyway but I'm biased) even if you can't tell the titus young types from film watching. It definitely can be improved (some positions the NFL is still really bad at evaluation wise imo but status quo gets you hired like every other job) but I've noticed even needle struggles hard at times with the internet concept of evaluating players vs the old school football way much less those guys who are all in the hiring positions.

Both have +'s and -'s to them, draft twitter doesn't value competitive toughness (or the reverse red flag) anywhere near as much as they should but every draft there's old school football guys who fall in love with guys that just don't have the film to back it up and then they're all shocked when they bust and I'm just like duh...

The frustrating thing is when the NFL tries way too hard to knock a guy down for made up red flags or for only dumb reasons. I actually read this year "mariota has no red flags, that's a red flag" somewhere. I'm not sure anything dumber about a prospect has ever been uttered.

I remember being surprised Karlos Williams fell to the Bills in the 5th round. mostly because of "red flag" issues. Looks like a steal so far.

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09-28-2015 , 07:37 PM

#207

BAIDS

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i took some chefs -6 at a bit worse than evens, figure there's close to 0% chance packers are up by more than 2 scores at any point given fat mike, so even in the event that the chefs get battered i've still got decent garbage time cover equity

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09-28-2015 , 07:43 PM

#208

DodgerIrish

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damn I didn't realize Len P was so edgy

Closer makes him horny

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09-28-2015 , 07:52 PM

#209

a priori

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Am I naive to think that Charles can dominate and keep Rodgers off the field so Chefs win outright?

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09-28-2015 , 07:54 PM

#210

BAIDS

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chefs can win, prob not since godgers, but a fumble here and a fat mike running play on 2nd and 15 up 3 pts with 4 mins to go in the 4th quarter there and who knows

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09-28-2015 , 08:07 PM

#211

ut2010

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Definite garbage time cover equity.

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09-28-2015 , 08:09 PM

#212

a priori

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Even though GB kings of garbage touchdowns

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09-28-2015 , 08:09 PM

#213

nath

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

Comp % isn't the same as accuracy. I had this issue with Derek Carr coming out. He had a high comp % (66.7 career!) but wasn't accurate on his throws in the games I viewed.

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Originally Posted by Palo

That's true on comp percentage. Tebow had a really high completion rate but was obviously not very accurate. However, if you've got a really low rate of completion you are almost certainly not accurate.

Yes, completion percentage as a representation of accuracy is very context-dependent, but I think "five QBs all coached by the same QB coach and presumably running the same style of offense" makes for a pretty good contextual baseline to compare those guys accurately.

Only two of those guys had NFL careers to speak of-- the two who broke 60% their final season. Only the guy whose career % was over 60 was a franchise guy.

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09-28-2015 , 08:16 PM

#214

mutigers

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4.5 seems crazy

thought it opened at 6.5

marcus peters has been fantastic this year and pass rush is obviously very good but i think rodgers is gonna embarrass flemings clown ass all game just like peyton. on the road at cincy next week so it would sure be nice to win this game since we will be underdogs in that too

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09-28-2015 , 08:19 PM

#215

mutigers

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Originally Posted by BAIDS

chefs can win, prob not since godgers, but a fumble here and a fat mike running play on 2nd and 15 up 3 pts with 4 mins to go in the 4th quarter there and who knows

alex smith needs 7 minutes to matriculate down the field so once it's inside 4 minutes they should be golden

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09-28-2015 , 08:23 PM

#216

nath

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Who's Fleming? Wasn't Sean Smith suspended two games and now they have him back? I really like Peters / Gaines / Smith as a trio.

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09-28-2015 , 08:26 PM

#217

mutigers

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nope

3 game suspension

jamaal fleming some scrub

edit- jamell. who cares hopefully i don't have to see him again

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09-28-2015 , 08:32 PM

#218

A-Rod's Cousin

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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141

It's in Lambeau.

Oh then lol that line. But you still never know with fat Mikey light so many points on fire

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09-28-2015 , 09:02 PM

#219

esad

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Am I naive to think that Charles can dominate and keep Rodgers off the field so Chefs win outright?

Apparently yes.

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09-28-2015 , 09:06 PM

#220

nath

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15 Foul Ways The Patriots Cheated The NFL In Week 3

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09-28-2015 , 09:27 PM

#221

wheatrich

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Bears trying to get all the 6th rounders, jon bostic to pats
Bostic hasn't played this year and struggles with mental or going anywhere that isn't in a straight line. gl with that

edit--the "why didn't they get more" comments is just like ARE YOU SERIOUS

also your 2013 draft class in chicago is kyle long and the 7th rounder. (6th is on IR but was likely gonna get cut) well at least we didn't brick the first rounder like 2/3 the NFL.

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09-28-2015 , 09:27 PM

#222

Victor

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Originally Posted by heh

That's a popular myth, but think about the Redskins trading up some 30 spots to pick Jason Campbell right after Godgers was picked.
Think about the Dolphins starting Frerotte that year or the Browns starting Dilfer after picking some trash (Braylon).

That's just off the top of my head, but there were definitely needy teams and it's a bit of a headscratcher to me (still).

braylon wasnt trash