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11-18-2013 , 06:39 PM
Peter King loves a lot of the right breweries, he just has a knack for choosing the worst styles. he would be the type of coach who has Peyton but loves giving the ball to Mike Allstott
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11-18-2013 , 06:39 PM
If he is forced to retire his entire career will be defined as trolling Riverman and getting Flacco paid. He's had a good year after that debacle too, pretty sad.
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11-18-2013 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
Peter King loves a lot of the right breweries, he just has a knack for choosing the worst styles. he would be the type of coach who has Peyton but loves giving the ball to Mike Allstott
Aka Jack Del Rio.
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11-18-2013 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
There's surgery for it, but do yourself a favor and don't look up the wikipedia entry on fasciotomy.
Why not? It says it has a high rate of success. But the pictures, oh the pictures...
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11-18-2013 , 06:47 PM
Ray, no SNF flex for the Cardinals yo.

Too bad, like the idea of the Cards being relevant in week 12
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11-18-2013 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
Hearing Rahim the dream may have compartment syndrome. Could be career ending. Supposedly you can lose a limb. Can't imagine they can't fix it with surgery. Gotta imagine it ends the season though.
hakeem nicks had this in 2010 and missed 2 games
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11-18-2013 , 06:50 PM
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hakeem nicks had this in 2010 and missed 2 games
Cool, thanks for the post.
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11-18-2013 , 06:53 PM
Chim, said Rahim is out for "a few weeks"......

I know its been talked about a lot among Bronco fans but Champ needs to come back and play some safety ala Charles Woodson. I think with DRC playing better and Harris healthy we need more help at safety than CB. Make the transition Champ, I want you to remain a Bronco for life and I think at safety he could be good for at least another 2 years.
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11-18-2013 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VincentVega
Ray, no SNF flex for the Cardinals yo.

Too bad, like the idea of the Cards being relevant in week 12
well that blows
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11-18-2013 , 07:19 PM
VV I'm not sure you can transition that quickly. Or do you mean next year?

Hope Rahim makes it through with no issues.
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11-18-2013 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Noze
Yup, get a botched INT call in your favor, a muffed punt, the flukiest fumble through the end zone ever, and even a semi-borderline non intentional grounding call and complain about how you should have won. SF got completely worked yesterday brah.
lol just came in here to say this basically, that lost p6 through the endzone was about as fluky as it gets...

two weeks in a row captain kaepernik had a chance to lead SF down the field to score and basically win, two weeks he has failed and was so bad yesterday was lucky to even be in that position...

SF is in large amounts of trouble...
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11-18-2013 , 07:54 PM
Not sure I agree with him, but hot damn when is the last time you heard a coach talk like this. 1. Trestman

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"When you call timeouts at the end of halves, you want to call them in succession if you can. If you’re calling them just hit or miss, there’s really no value in them. So just a little bit of history: When you start a drive from the 16-yard line, you have a 13 percent chance, probably, over the last five years to score a touchdown. And you have to take that into consideration when you go into the game. And then when a team’s driving, you’ve got to know what they have, and you’ve got to know what you have. They had two timeouts at the time, and we have three timeouts.

Well, the normal thinking is you never want to leave the game with your three timeouts. You want to get them back, especially in those situations. But the fact of the matter is there was really no time to use the timeouts. And when you’re in a two-minute situation, if you use your timeouts, and there’s no way you can call them in succession, you give them more time on each and every play to get the people out there they want to get that play done. So you have to consider that.

So really only the first time where I considered really calling a timeout was after Ray Rice had the 11-yard run to the 5-yard line. And he took that ball, probably, I think it was about at 1:16 when he had that ball. That was the first time. I was down there with the official. That was the first time. But when you put ... the numbers all together, if you call three timeouts right there in succession, you’re still only getting the ball back at 18 seconds, OK? If you let it run, they’re in a two-minute mode, OK? And now they’ve got to call two timeouts, so a couple things come into the play with their using their two timeouts.

No. 1, they didn’t call a timeout on the first one, which means they had to call a play out of their two-minute package instead of using their red-zone package. So that’s No. 1. They didn’t call a timeout and get into different personnel groupings to call the play. And then by using their two timeouts, we knew what they had to do on third down. They had to throw it because there wasn’t enough time left to do anything else. So we cut the percentages in half from run to pass. And then there was just one big leap of faith. But if we call three timeouts in a row, we’ve got 19, 18 seconds left at the max. So the percentage of them scoring — it’s a leap of faith. I mean, they went all the way down the field. Three points, yes. Tie the game. Seven points, we’re talking 13 percent.

"And then from an offensive standpoint, as a play-caller, I know if you call timeout, you can get what you want out there. If not, you’ve got a limited bag of plays you can use. So that’s the reasoning behind it. I would have loved to have been able to have a situation when they were running the ball and they started to get in that field goal area where we could have plugged the timeouts each one on top of each other, but it wasn’t the case."
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11-18-2013 , 08:06 PM
is that referring to the end of the game where the Ravens were playing for the tie? MAn my memory is foggy but it seemed they were playing for the tie but if they throw an incomplete pass then his theory makes no sense as they wouldnt have to burn timeouts and they would have gotten the ball back with like a minute to go which is plenty of time to try and get into field goal range.

Somebody please correct me but at the time everybody on here was very confused as to why he wouldnt call those timeouts.
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11-18-2013 , 08:07 PM
Ravens had first and goal and a td wins the game
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11-18-2013 , 08:09 PM
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VV I'm not sure you can transition that quickly. Or do you mean next year?

Hope Rahim makes it through with no issues.
well I'd like to see them implement him into a sort of hybrid safety/nickle corner for the rest of the year and let Harris and DRC play outside as im not sure with Champ hobbled as well as aging he is fast enough to be trusted on the outside.

But definitely going forward, i.e. Next year I would like to see him play safety most of the time if everybody is healthy. I think he could really shine back there but hes been pretty adament that he will not play safety....and his contract is up after this year...

Getting ahead of myself but we got a lot to think about wrt to what to do with DRC, Phillips(1 year deals on both), Rahim's rookie deal is over I think and Champ's contract is over....guess we'll have to wait and see obviously.
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11-18-2013 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Caldarooni
Ravens had first and goal and a td wins the game
right. So unless the Ravens run 3 straight times you are not going to get the ball back with 18 seconds left (assuming you force an incomplete pass and use all your timeouts). Like Biesterfield said, its great to hear a coach at least have that kind of deep thought process but i disagree with him.
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11-18-2013 , 08:10 PM
Trestman Clemency Status: GRANTED
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11-18-2013 , 08:13 PM
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So the percentage of them scoring — it’s a leap of faith. I mean, they went all the way down the field. Three points, yes. Tie the game. Seven points, we’re talking 13 percent.
It sounds like he thinks it is still only 13% once they're already at the 5-yard-line?

He also seems to ignore the case where the Ravens score on the first or second play, and any case where the Ravens don't go run-run-run.
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11-18-2013 , 08:13 PM
Trestman is right in regards to the clock stuff. The Ravens got a first goal at 1:16. You would have to use one timeout to stop the clock for the first down. The other 2 after 1st and 2nd down and the clock would run after 3rd down.
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11-18-2013 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
Hearing Rahim the dream may have compartment syndrome. Could be career ending. Supposedly you can lose a limb. Can't imagine they can't fix it with surgery. Gotta imagine it ends the season though.
If he loses a limb, can Peyton use it to beat him over the head?
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11-18-2013 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Thamel18
Why not? It says it has a high rate of success. But the pictures, oh the pictures...
Obviously the pictures. C'mon man. I tried to warn you.
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11-18-2013 , 08:28 PM
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Trestman Clemency Status: GRANTED
Yesssssssss
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11-18-2013 , 08:31 PM
geno smith 3rd in the nfl in deep pass accuracy. so there's that
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11-18-2013 , 08:32 PM
Man, Ninerfan seems perturbed.

Your team got outcoached and outplayed. Stop.
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11-18-2013 , 08:33 PM
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well I'd like to see them implement him into a sort of hybrid safety/nickle corner for the rest of the year and let Harris and DRC play outside as im not sure with Champ hobbled as well as aging he is fast enough to be trusted on the outside.

But definitely going forward, i.e. Next year I would like to see him play safety most of the time if everybody is healthy. I think he could really shine back there but hes been pretty adament that he will not play safety....and his contract is up after this year...

Getting ahead of myself but we got a lot to think about wrt to what to do with DRC, Phillips(1 year deals on both), Rahim's rookie deal is over I think and Champ's contract is over....guess we'll have to wait and see obviously.
I want to see him get burned in his last few regular season games, and then GOAT it up in the Super Bowl Atwater style.
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