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Originally Posted by BillNye
"But Raiders won't use cap space / picks correctly" - I don't think this is relevant. Can apply the same statement around their chances of building a winner around Mack.
I don't think you can apply the statement the same way, because that money is already spent on Mack, who is confirmed to be excellent. You can spend it on a guy you know is elite or hope that you get 3-4 above-average guys with it. I think I'd rather plug cheap average guys around a star than spend a bunch of money on trying to get slightly above-average guys.
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Originally Posted by BillNye
It's interesting cuz Mack is ~the best, most expensive non-QB traded in recent memory. Basically the most awesome player you can hope to acquire in a trade. The price was very high though. 2 1st round picks that have top of the draft potential. A contract that surpasses Aaron Donalds record breaking deal. There's a lot going on but almost none of the discussion is anything but "lol Raiders."
Yeah, the NFL pays pass rushers almost like QBs, because they're the second-most important position. Same with the trade compensation. (Again, it's not two firsts; the Bears got a second-rounder back.) That's why it's lol Raiders; they had a cornerstone QB and pass rusher to build around, and they traded one away without even making much effort to negotiate a deal. It reminds me more than anything of Josh McDaniels and Jay Cutler.
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Originally Posted by BillNye
If you aren't in position to compete and your 27.5 year old star player is due a record breaking deal - it's not that insane to be a seller. The more puzzling part is the Bears being the highest bidder. Trading for a star to raise your floor & start your championship window before you know you have a QB seems questionable.
The second part of this paragraph gives the lie to the first part-- if a team that's paying its 27-year-old quarterback $25 million this year and has him under contract for four more seasons (though admittedly with realistic outs) isn't in a position to compete, when do they get in a position to compete? A franchise QB is the single most important element to being competitive. (Or possibly an amazing head coach, but those are even rarer.)
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
This is a really bad take.The best run team in the league is constantly letting players go bc they don't have the cap space to keep everyone. It's not bc they aren't creative, it's because there is a salary cap that greatly restricts what they can do.
I mean,
is that why they do that? We just had a discussion about Chandler Jones where they just used the cap space they would've used on him on Stephon Gilmore instead. And someone like Malcolm Butler seems to have simply fallen out of favor with the team.
And the Pats still have four players with eight-figure cap hits and a bunch of middle-range veterans.
Look at the guys between Marcus Cannon and Cordarrelle Patterson. 3-4 of them-- three if you go with the top three-- take up the same amount of cap room as Jones. I mean, I'd sacrifice Dwayne Allen, Duron Harmon, and Kyle Van Noy to line up Chandler Jones instead of Adrian Clayborn.
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Originally Posted by Beerocrat
Would the Eagles trade Mailata for Flowers straight up? I'm guessing no.
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I don't know who that is, but I'm also guessing no.