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12-13-2017 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
the kaepernick truthing just never ends lol

this guy a guy who got benched for blaine ****ing gabbert. that's the hill you are choosing to die on.
Well he was 1-10 as a starter last year with a sweet 1-5 for 4 yards and 5 sacks -25 yards. Have to keep that interception percentage down.
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12-13-2017 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
WRT Mariota, Mularkey is, no exaggeration, the worst coach in the NFL. Their schemes are outdated and not suited to his ability. It's unfortunate because his progress is being held out due to the Titans prematurely winning games. Had Mariota performed worse earlier Mularkey rightfully would have been ****canned.
There are an absolutely insane number of "worst coaches in the league" right now

John Fox - need I say more
Hue Jackson - LOL. also 1-27 or whatever
Chargers idiot guy - has probably directly cost them at least 3 wins
Pagano - cancer literally ate his brain
Fat Mike - has managed to simultaneously get the bare minimum out of the best player ever while barely maintaining his job throughout.

impossible to pick the worst coach imo
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12-13-2017 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
I have so many questions about this


Last edited by Heroball; 12-13-2017 at 09:25 PM. Reason: Stoic
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12-13-2017 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
There are an absolutely insane number of "worst coaches in the league" right now

John Fox - need I say more
Hue Jackson - LOL. also 1-27 or whatever
Chargers idiot guy - has probably directly cost them at least 3 wins
Pagano - cancer literally ate his brain
Fat Mike - has managed to simultaneously get the bare minimum out of the best player ever while barely maintaining his job throughout.

impossible to pick the worst coach imo
There’s at least 8 more who are horrifically bad.
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12-13-2017 , 09:31 PM
BOB
Marvin
Tomlin
Marrone
Racist guy in buffalo
Quinn
Gase
Garrett is a total imbecile
Koetter
Mcadoo until recently

Joseph likely very bad
Rivera
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12-13-2017 , 09:31 PM
Oh i know. It's basically like 1 goat coach in his twilight, one or 2 sick prospects, 3 or 4 guys who aren't terrible or at least have one obvious strength. And then like 25 guys who all just absolutely suck.
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12-13-2017 , 09:39 PM
Nath/J3(and others),

Is Colin a better ASSET than Kirk aorn?
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12-13-2017 , 09:41 PM
Entire NFC-West with zero complete imbecile coaches.
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12-13-2017 , 09:47 PM
Getting hyped to have my dreams crushed.
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12-13-2017 , 09:50 PM
Jason Garrett is mega elite at clapping. Thinks he hyping up teenagers or something.

Kaep helped out his legacy so much longterm by kneeling. in 20 years fans will be saying, what about Kaepnerick? He didn't throw many interceptions that one time.
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12-13-2017 , 10:13 PM
Any coach that has a QB clocking it with more than a minute to go
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12-13-2017 , 10:54 PM
Marrone has made some just downright horrible in game calls. But I for one am not going to at all criticize the man for Monday-Saturday this year. I don't even know how bad he was at the Monday-Saturday in Buffalo really.

And his allowing the OC/DC to basically run the show on gameday with calling and all that has been awesome. DeCamillis needs to be a head coach somewhere next year even if it means the Jags lose a very good Special Teams guy. I feel like he gets it but maybe someone that knows more about him than I do can tell me why.
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12-13-2017 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NLSoldier
the kaepernick truthing just never ends lol

this guy a guy who got benched for blaine ****ing gabbert. that's the hill you are choosing to die on.
No, he was injured and got the job back once he wasn't. As usual, you buy into the first narrative that confirms your worldview.

Why don't you check out where Cian ranked Kaep? I know that's subjective, but he's sure as **** done the work and I am 100% confident you haven't. You really think Houston, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Miami were all in better shape going with their backup after their starter got injured than Kaepernick? You really believe, in your 100% objective unbiased opinion, that Kaepernick is worse than Tom Savage, Brett Hundley, Scott Tolzien, Matt Cassel, Jay Cutler, and Matt Moore? You really believe he's worse than all three guys in Denver?

You blew your top at the suggestion that Kaepernick be signed to back up Nick Foles. Do you really think Nate Sudfeld, a sixth-round pick last year who has never thrown a pass in the NFL and his on his second team, is better than Colin Kaepernick? Because that sounds 100% objective and in no way the product of bias or "truther" thinking.

It's hilarious that you openly root against a guy being blackballed for his social justice stances while accusing other people of having "white guilt." Maybe you have some guilt over how cushy your life has been for being a white guy who's been lucky enough to be insulated his entire adult life from real work or interacting with ordinary people by gambling and finance? Maybe your accusations of "white guilt" are a projection of that voice deep down that says "Maybe I just happened to be in the right place at the right time and I'm not as awesome as I think I am?"

Hey, remember when you thought we should really, like, respect Janay Rice's decision to stay with Ray Rice, as though there are absolutely no complicating factors that would cause a woman to remain in an abusive relationship? Maybe, like, talk to a black person or woman to get their perspective, just once in your life.

Also, you suck at evaluating QBs.

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Originally Posted by Heroball
Nath/J3(and others),

Is Colin a better ASSET than Kirk aorn?
Ehh. I think his ceiling is higher but there's more volatility to his outcomes because he hasn't played in a year. I wouldn't want to give either of them a long-term deal today l if I could help it, but Cousins would probably be the safer play as the outcomes are more predictable. I mean, definitely give me Kaepernick at 2/8 or whatever over Cousins at 5/125.

Any evaluation of Kaepernick from last year needs to consider how much production he lost to receiver error. One pass every 8.5 attempts-- not accurate attempts, attempts-- was a lost completion due to failure of the target, and yet, he completed 16 TD to only 4 INT, with Jeremy ****ing Kerley as, by a sizable margin, his best receiver.
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12-13-2017 , 11:34 PM
Do you think Colin would take 2/25?

Do you prefer that over Kirk at 5/125?
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12-13-2017 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
No, he was injured and got the job back once he wasn't. As usual, you buy into the first narrative that confirms your worldview.

Why don't you check out where Cian ranked Kaep? I know that's subjective, but he's sure as **** done the work and I am 100% confident you haven't. You really think Houston, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Miami were all in better shape going with their backup after their starter got injured than Kaepernick? You really believe, in your 100% objective unbiased opinion, that Kaepernick is worse than Tom Savage, Brett Hundley, Scott Tolzien, Matt Cassel, Jay Cutler, and Matt Moore? You really believe he's worse than all three guys in Denver?

You blew your top at the suggestion that Kaepernick be signed to back up Nick Foles. Do you really think Nate Sudfeld, a sixth-round pick last year who has never thrown a pass in the NFL and his on his second team, is better than Colin Kaepernick? Because that sounds 100% objective and in no way the product of bias or "truther" thinking.

It's hilarious that you openly root against a guy being blackballed for his social justice stances while accusing other people of having "white guilt." Maybe you have some guilt over how cushy your life has been for being a white guy who's been lucky enough to be insulated his entire adult life from real work or interacting with ordinary people by gambling and finance? Maybe your accusations of "white guilt" are a projection of that voice deep down that says "Maybe I just happened to be in the right place at the right time and I'm not as awesome as I think I am?"

Hey, remember when you thought we should really, like, respect Janay Rice's decision to stay with Ray Rice, as though there are absolutely no complicating factors that would cause a woman to remain in an abusive relationship? Maybe, like, talk to a black person or woman to get their perspective, just once in your life.

Also, you suck at evaluating QBs.



Ehh. I think his ceiling is higher but there's more volatility to his outcomes because he hasn't played in a year. I wouldn't want to give either of them a long-term deal today l if I could help it, but Cousins would probably be the safer play as the outcomes are more predictable. I mean, definitely give me Kaepernick at 2/8 or whatever over Cousins at 5/125.

Any evaluation of Kaepernick from last year needs to consider how much production he lost to receiver error. One pass every 8.5 attempts-- not accurate attempts, attempts-- was a lost completion due to failure of the target, and yet, he completed 16 TD to only 4 INT, with Jeremy ****ing Kerley as, by a sizable margin, his best receiver.
Hahahaa nash must be off his meds, because this is a full break from reality.
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12-13-2017 , 11:43 PM
I love how we listed 14 legit awful coaches, and somehow didn't even have room to fit Caldwell on that list
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12-13-2017 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
No, he was injured and got the job back once he wasn't. As usual, you buy into the first narrative that confirms your worldview.
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
So he wasn't benched halfway through 2015? He didn't start another game that season and also didn't start week one 2016 but was active and handed off the ball in the last few minutes
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Originally Posted by Palo
His shoulder was injured and required surgery. I don't think going on IR counts as getting benched.
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
He got benched before the Falcons game and was in for a few plays while Gabba was getting checked for a concussion, he got put on IR because he wanted to get surgery
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Originally Posted by Palo
The old cosmetic shoulder surgery work dodge scam. I give up.
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
Well he says he got hurt in the Packers game a week after he played arguably the worst game of his career but sure. If you think he still elects for the surgery if he wasn't benched I don't know what to tell you
Don't think you answered this last time but am curious about your take on this.
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Originally Posted by nath
Why don't you check out where Cian ranked Kaep? I know that's subjective, but he's sure as **** done the work and I am 100% confident you haven't. You really think Houston, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Miami were all in better shape going with their backup after their starter got injured than Kaepernick? You really believe, in your 100% objective unbiased opinion, that Kaepernick is worse than Tom Savage, Brett Hundley, Scott Tolzien, Matt Cassel, Jay Cutler, and Matt Moore? You really believe he's worse than all three guys in Denver?
I think I've said itt that I think Kaep is better than all those, but understood why the Packers wanted to see what Hundley could do. I had completely written off the Packers season as soon as Rodgers went down, with Hundley or Kaep starting, and thought it made more sense to see Hundley put in to see if he could be the solution as a backup or possibly flip him later if he did well.

Not gonna touch the rest of the post
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12-13-2017 , 11:53 PM
Cutlahhhh might be better than Colin rn.

Rest of list just proves the same thing we know from 4th down decisions: NFL organizations are run by detrimentally risk-averse ppl.
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12-14-2017 , 12:34 AM
+1 to Naths post on Kaep. Pretty hilarious how the MAGA derposphere is immediately triggered when someone even suggests kaep should be a backup to a backup
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12-14-2017 , 12:36 AM
regardless of what anyone thinks about Kaeppy, if it hasn't happened by now, it almost certainly won't, this year anyway
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12-14-2017 , 01:03 AM
Everyone is also well aware of Nath's take on Kaep. It's just beating a dead horse at this point. If no one signed him this year then it's unlikely anyone ever will.

Fwiw I think most of teams Kaep could've helped this year(and there are definitely at least a few) were in cities where the signing would never fly.
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12-14-2017 , 01:08 AM
I thought someone would eventually give him a shot but now that he's filed a grievance against the owners there's no way it happens
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12-14-2017 , 01:09 AM
Why would GB sign the guy who constantly torched them? GB's fanbase is too fat to actually riot but they'd really hate him up there.

Tennessee made the most sense by far as his skill set is the closest out there to Mariota's in the FA market. When that didn't happen; it just made this discussion irrelevant. Guess if you wanna just piss people off you can still talk about him; but really it's over and it's time for all of us to move on as he's done in the NFL and everybody including him knows it.
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12-14-2017 , 01:13 AM
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Everyone is also well aware of Nath's take on Kaep. It's just beating a dead horse at this point. If no one signed him this year then it's unlikely anyone ever will.

Fwiw I think most of teams Kaep could've helped this year(and there are definitely at least a few) were in cities where the signing would never fly.

His take that kaep is being blackballed? You’re either a complete moron or a rank deplorable if you think otherwise. NLSoldier is telling on himself with his dumb kaep takes
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12-14-2017 , 01:29 AM
re Cam as accurate: pretty sure he ranked highly only after adjusting for depth of target.
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