I'll take Indy -1 win over Hou if anyone wants

brady quinn signed with the dolphins

I was surprised he was still in the league

So would everyone else.

He's officially reached "camp arm when your third string QB gets hurt" status.

that is close to market price, seen offers itt not even close to it

I gotcha. I'm just looking around at lines and seeing ATL's O/U at 8.5 with a pretty heavy vig on the over. Similarly, Indy is at 9.5. New Orleans is 10.5, which is why I'm comfortable betting them there.

Atlanta and Indy are two teams that have had a lot of success pulling out late-game wins, which is why I have so much uncertainty surrounding their win totals. I tried to assume closer to the mean than to "They win every close game."

wheatrich, Bovada has Tampa Bay at 7.0 O -140 U +110; you should clean up there if you feel good about your lines.

They also have Houston U 7.5 at +120. I might have to go take my own advice.

team #7 I believe

he must be getting close to a record

Tampa and Houston both under. Although Houston does get four games against Tennessee and Jacksonville, so there are 3-4 wins. Still think under for both.

I was just looking at my predictions again, and I think Chicago v. Indy is a great example of the difference a schedule makes. I actually think Chicago is the better team on a neutral field, but check this out:

Chicago Bears

BUF

@SF

@NYJ

GB

@CAR

@ATL

MIA

@NE

BYE

@GB

MIN

TB

@DET

DAL

NO

DET

@MIN

Indianapolis Colts

@DEN

PHI

@JAX

TEN

BAL

@HOU

CIN

@PIT

@NYG

BYE

NE

JAX

WAS

@CLE

HOU

@DAL

@TEN

that Indy schedule actually doesn't look that easy to me besides the obvious lolAFC aspects

could see that stretch inbetween Jax being tough.

It's an easy schedule, but I'm sure Pagano will find a way to lose against some of those cupcakes.

Clutch Andrew Luck tho

I mean, they have to play one NFC division, and unless you think Carolina's gonna regress hard and that Atlanta is still in the dumpter or something, there's a pretty solid case to be made that the LEAST is currently the softest NFC division. Indy's got it just about as good as you can have it.

The AFC South plays the NFC East and AFC North. None of those eight teams are significantly stronger than Indianapolis (or arguably at all); on top of that, Indy gets arguably the two best teams from each division at home. Plus, six games against the Texans, Titans, and Jaguars.

yea, wtf wheatrich, that whole post is just awful. I dont normally like to hate on predictions with a healthy writeup as I dont want to discourage effort in posts but Jesus man. You really think Detroit is a possibly number 1 pick team this year? No way do they not win at least 6 games. They should bounce back a bit as they are still talented offensively (MEGATRON). Not saying they will win the North or anything but really really doubtful they end up with the worst record in the league, and im a Detroit and Stafford hater.'

Zona barring Palmer or Fitz injury should be in the 8-8 pack I'd think. They got unlucky in some close games and their defense is very, very good. Their terrible oline is the only thing holding them back really, and their division being so good, but their 1st round pick last year is healthy i think and they should be at least decent on the oline aspect.

Im talking a bit out my ass here but I don't ****ing care cause compared to what nonsense you spewed it seems reasonable. Watkins has the best hands in the league already? Jesus, theres plenty of guys in the league that he needs to surpass in order to be in that conversation.

AFC:
Pats 10-6 (oline, rb fumbling issues)

Miami 8-8 (think Tannehill shows a bit of resemblance to a decent qb for some of the year)

Jets 7-9 (who knows who actually plays qb but either way I bet it ends up a mess and they keep going back and forth between Vick and Geno while CJ2.0k ends up completely done and getting benched)

Buff 5-11 (I kinda thought Manuel showed some flashes, but hes reckless and despite being big think he struggles to stay healthy and they don't know that while Fred JAckson is THE GOAT they should be feeding Spiller the ball 20 times a game especially in that weather).

North:
Bengals 10-6 (same story, Dalton struggles, they might lean on Gio as they should and be better offensively and their defense will remain top 8ish)

Steelers and Ravens both 8-8ish (just too inconsistent, I like the Steelers a bit more I think but think the Ravens offense is a little worse Rafflesburger>>Flactard

Browns: 5-11 Manziel gets the job after a putrid start by Hoyer as everybody starts calling for him, he wins a game after being terrible but somehow comes up with a game winning drive and a media frenzy starts then he quietly goes like 3-10 the rest of the way while being sacked about 43 times

South:
Indy 11-5 Luck has a true breakout year throwing for 4500 yards, rushing for 400 combining for 40tds , defense gets slightly better

Titans-same story, lose close games to mediocre teams, blown out by good teams, win close games vs bad teams. 7-9

Texans -whos playing qb? Keenum? Their defense will show flashes, im excited so long as they use clowney right...but still play a lot of 17-9 games. At least Gary is gone, future is bright. 7-9

Jags-worst team in the league, whats up with Blackmon? MJD gone....Shorts is not a legit threat to have to double team, no qb...3-13..maybe.

West:

Denver 13-3 again. They run the ball more, but Peyton still has a good year of something like 68% for 4700 yards, 44 tds and 12 picks. Defense if healthy (doubtful) could be one of the best in the league. Nevertheless, they will still lose @NE, one game to the chargers and prob Seattle or SF. Why the **** do they always play @NE? What is it? 3 years in a row at least? Shouldnt this switch up? How do they decide this?

Chargers 10-6 This defense is gonna be decent this year I think and if Denver has a couple of injuries I could see them giving them a run for the division...small shot, 15%, but a shot nonethless.

KC 8-8. Charles is a beast, and fat Andy knows this, feed that man the rock, let Alex Smith throw dumpoffs and backshoulders to Bowe...but their defense got exploited last year toward the end when they actually played some decent qbs...they won't get to play those 3rd stringers with a 2nd place schedule this year....8-8 i think will be luck and thats if Charles goes 6ypc for 1800 yards and catches 75 balls ala Marshall Faulk 2001 (Faulk only had like 1300 yards rushing that year but they had Warner)

Raiders-top 5 pick no doubt for 2016. I'll go 4-12 . Not much to say, they will be bad. Hopefully Mack is good, even tho im a Bronco fan I like the Raiders being decent ...its a fun rivalry....December games against them that matter are awesome. Carr should get a shot pretty quickly I'd think....and **** it why not?

Thats all for now....If anybody likes my write up I'll do the NFC. AFC is my division tho so i felt more comfortable doing them.

6 to not make the playoffs:
Jags, Raiders, Bucs, Vikes, Buff, Browns.

I'm shocked to see that a team that plays 12 games against the NFC has a tougher schedule than a team that plays 12 games against the lolAFC.

:thumbup:

The more the better imo.

I'm really hoping we get at least one or two teams who playoff out of nowhere but it's tough to find any prospects when going through the divisions.

so did this actually happen or is this the part where we lol at rawrs

Is Orlando Scandrick a Bronco yet?

It's still Monday in Denver imo

It wasn't ridiculous enough that the senior member (and de facto leader) of Dallas' defense is a slot corner? And an overpaid slot corner at that?

I don't get the Houston hype, Fitzpatrick is the QB... Very unlikely they make the playoffs.

NFL East is going to be a lot more even because the Eagles are as good as everyone thinks and Washington isn't as bad as everyone thinks.

Detroit is pretty much a lock to win 6 and idk where you pull the Vikings record from.. lol

Scandrick is pretty damn good...

I got no problem with the Cards 6-10 prediction. If he just sorted by consensus opinion I wouldn't wanna read it either. Nothing wrong with outright saying a few teams are vastly over/underrated in your preview.

I'd be surprised if they went 6-10 but it wouldn't shock me or anything. Someone in that division is likely going 7-9 or worse. If you got a bad QB and a bad OL, things can turn pretty fast....