NFL Old and Ongoing Bicker about Manning vs. Brady Thread. AKA The Biggest Loser - Page 56 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

I used to 2 years ago when I was brainwashed by 2p2 to think playoffs didn't matter, then I wised up and thought what the **** this is so ***** dumb.

Still if you want a QB with playoff success not really factored in like 2p2 loves to do, Marino >> Manning

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01-26-2011 , 05:36 PM

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Epi starting to break, folding like Manning in a big game.

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01-26-2011 , 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11

I used to 2 years ago when I was brainwashed by 2p2 to think playoffs didn't matter, then I wised up and thought what the ****.

Still if you want a QB with playoff success not really factored in like 2p2 loves to do, Marino >> Manning

How on earth do you get that? Manning's regular season stats and record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marino. Manning is the GOAT of the regular season and it really isn't close.

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01-26-2011 , 05:37 PM

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How on earth do you get that? Manning's regular season stats and record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marino. Manning is the GOAT of the regular season and it really isn't close.

Manning played in a muchhhhhhhhhhh better era for passing (this is really the biggest thing) with better offensive talent throughout his career and in a dome. Marino also played much later than Manning has so far so his career stats look worse since he played past his prime (his last year was when he was 38 years old) where as Manning has not played past his prime yet since hes still in qb prime age.

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01-26-2011 , 05:39 PM

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147-93, 61361 yards, 420 tds and 252 ints in 240 starts for Marino.
That's 253.6 ypg and 1.8 TDs game and 1.0 INT per game.

Manning is 131-61 in 208 starts with 399 tds and 198 ints and 263.6 ypg.

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01-26-2011 , 05:41 PM

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147-93, 61361 yards, 420 tds and 252 ints in 240 starts for Marino.
That's 253.6 ypg and 1.8 TDs game and 1.0 INT per game.

Manning is 131-61 in 208 starts with 399 tds and 198 ints and 263.6 ypg.

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01-26-2011 , 05:57 PM

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EPiPeN11,

You are giving all kinds of excuses when facts are presented about Manning. Do you believe Bradshaw with 4 rings >>>>>> Marino even though his stats are crap? Afterall, Marino played in a muchhhhhhhhhhhh better era for passing with the likes of Montana, Elway, Kelly etc and his offensive talent is much better than Bradshaw's...

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01-26-2011 , 05:58 PM

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i can't remember 1 game off the top of my head where manning played well and the colts still lost, and no padding his stats during garbage time doesn't count. I mean maybe it happened once since he has had so many losses I can't remember all of them but I can't recall it. Also he def played horrible in the 20-3 new england game.

lol he's played well in all 4 of his post-season losses since his SB win

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@NWE 24-14, 4 ints, 23/47-4 ints is his fault.
@NWE 20-3, 1 int, 27/42-didn't plya well, but not horrible.

go watch those games again, the Pats DBs got away with so much, I mean it was laughable, there was probably 15 illegal contact/pi each game not called, Belichek is a master that knew they didn't call those in the playoffs and they exploited it

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01-26-2011 , 06:01 PM

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Epi starting to break, folding like Brady in a big game.

of course, it's playoff season for trolling now

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01-26-2011 , 06:22 PM

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they aren't excuses, it's called logic. This thread is full with a ton of nfl bobbofitos's, people who only look strictly at the stats and don't factor in stuff like offensive talent, passing era, domes, etc even if there isn't an exact # u can put on it.

And no I don't think Bradshaw > Marino or Manning, only the loveable loser fanboy tards who struggle mightily with reading comprehension or failing to pick up super obvious jokes would ever think that.

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01-26-2011 , 06:23 PM

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maybe you're just the jetto of the nfl

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01-26-2011 , 06:24 PM

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lol he's played well in all 4 of his post-season losses since his SB win

I don't remember the other 3 but he def did not play well vs the Jets. He played a bad 1st half for sure and while he played well in the 2nd half it clearly was too little too late.

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lol 15 illegal contract/pi in each game

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01-26-2011 , 06:25 PM

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maybe you're just the jetto of the nfl

i'll take that as a complement since jetto is known for only saying super obvious things that everyone already knows. although I guess that says something about the nfl regnoobs itt since even if it's obvious brady > manning they still argue the other side.

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01-26-2011 , 06:30 PM

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Explain your reasoning behind saying Marino >>> Bradshaw when Bradshaw has such a sick post season record...

Marino also played in an era that was muchhhhhhhh better for passing than Bradshaw did.

If you're consistent with your stance, you should think Bradshaw>>>Marino and Manning.

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01-26-2011 , 06:31 PM

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cause stuff like factoring in post season records doesnt come in unless the qbs are even sorta close. Marino was so much better than Bradshaw stuff like this doesn't matter. Bradshaw wasnt even elite when compared to his own era, he was a very good qb who had both a bunch of elite offensive players and an elite defense for many many years.

no one is sorting by playoff record alone, it's ur reading comprehension failing u yet again

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01-26-2011 , 06:33 PM

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Epipem is a tough talented NFL poster.

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01-26-2011 , 06:33 PM

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I seem to remember you saying playoff record is the most important. That winning playoff games dwarfs anything these guys do in regular season. Maybe you're still brainwashed by 2p2...

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01-26-2011 , 06:35 PM

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Dilfer is 5-1 all time in the playoffs with a 43% completion %. He might be the goat.

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01-26-2011 , 06:37 PM

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Dilfer is 5-1 all time in the playoffs with a 43% completion %. He might be the goat.

That sort of winning % puts him high up on that list! Not even Sanchez has that kind of playoff record.

Although it's worth noting that all of Sanchez's wins came on the road.

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01-26-2011 , 06:38 PM

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I seem to remember you saying playoff record is the most important. That winning playoff games dwarfs anything these guys do in regular season.

u mean how u play in the playoffs is the most important (with offensive talent, weather etc factored in), see the below quote to realize that does not equal playoff record, nor does it mean it's the ONLY thing that's important, it just means the most. again ur reading comprehension is failing u but thats not surprising coming from a kobe fan.

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Dilfer is 5-1 all time in the playoffs with a 43% completion %. He might be the goat.

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01-26-2011 , 06:40 PM

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u mean how u play in the playoffs is the most important, see the below quote to realize that does not equal playoff record, nor does it mean it's the ONLY thing that's important, it just is the most. again ur reading comprehension is failing u but thats not surprising coming from a kobe fan.

if playoff record is not the most important but how well you do in the playoffs, Manning>Brady. Manning's playoff stats are clearly superior to Brady's..

If you look at the regular season stats, then you better close your eyes because Manning>>>>Brady. So anyway you look at it, Manning> Brady. Unless you want to go Dilfer on us and say 14-5 and 9-10

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01-26-2011 , 06:42 PM

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thats cool that u don't factor in anything like offensive talent, weather etc and just look strictly at the stats even tho i've mentioned it 20 times itt by now. nice reading comprehension.

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01-26-2011 , 06:45 PM

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If we factor in all those factors, then we can decrease Manning's edge in playoffs and make it Manning=Brady in playoff performances. And the vastly superior regular stats that get you in playoffs in the first place means Manning>Brady

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01-26-2011 , 06:47 PM

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actually brady > manning in the playoffs. and u mean the vastly superior reg season stats that manning put up playing with far better offensive talent than brady has ever had except for the years where brady put up similar/better stats than manning?

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01-26-2011 , 06:52 PM

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actually brady > manning in the playoffs

Nope:

Peyton Manning: 2,464-of-3,880 (63.5%) for 29,460 yards; 216 TD passes, 120 INT's, 213 rushing attempts for 620 rushing yards, 9 rushing TD's, 38 fumbles (13 lost). 87.6 QB rating

Tom Brady: 2,293-of-3,639 (63.0%) for 26,364 yards; 197 TD passes, 86 INT's, 267 rushing attempts for 533 yards, 5 rushing TD's, 65 fumbles (29 lost). 85.5 QB rating

You want another try at this without going Dilfer on us?

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