im not a niner fan so i obv don't follow it as closly but it *seems* to me that there's been a bit of revisionist history wrt kaep. it seemed more to me that they took him as a bit of a gamble with a lot of upside knowing that they had smith who was at least serviceable in running their offense. and then smith got hurt and kaep immediately started crushing everyone was like duh we always knew how awesome he was, he was gonna take smiths job any second now either way.

totally agree about not drafting enough QBs. but moreso with regard to teams that don't have one. i would have 0 qualms about the vikes taking a QB in each of the first 3 rounds. I think I'd actually prefer it.

I don't pretend to know the 49ers current draft philosophy on QBs or how they felt about Alex Smith. Harbaugh took over after a year of them switching between between Smith and Troy Smith, and by the point (Alex) Smith had been in the league for a while with bad results. I'd speculate that they were looking for a replacement. But, they could just have the same perspective on it that I do and not think a high 2nd round pick is a big deal to spend acquiring another QB option.

i can see why you'd think so but it's not really revisionist. generally speaking you're not taking a QB at 36 so he can be your long-term backup, especially when your current QB situation is unstable (this was before smith's renaissance), and you're certainly not doing it for that reason trading 45, 108 and 141 to move up those 9 spots.

then they gave smith a 3 year deal last offseason at what was relatively below-market value, especially considering smith was only 27 at the time. and even before the concussion, kaepernick was getting a lot more reps than the backup of a super bowl contender should ever get during the regular season.

now i can't possibly imagine they expected kaepernick would be the starter this year, but i also can't possibly imagine harbaugh would have been so quick to leave smith on the bench if they weren't at least slightly ok with letting smith walk last offseason and kaepernick take over

ah ya i forgot they drafted kaep b4 smith did OK last year. nevermind.

how can u be this clueless?

idk brah, seems liek ther iz sum dta sayng otha stuff

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/st...ficiency/2012/

reid sseeeeems alll ovar tha place tho, ovar his carer. his run/pas ratio is aggressive tho

no there isnt data supporting that unless you cherry pick end points.

Johnny Knox has his contract with the Bears terminated, probably done playing football for good

mebbbe other stats,? u got any, or just goin of yur gut?

That sucks. That hit was brutal. I wonder if he will even try and make another team.

surely u can understand why total 4th down attempts is irrelevant

So,. no states at all? Im shoked.

Total attemps is not grate, but it's a start. But its kewl, you gots gut feels.

do u have stats proving the opposite?

quite an impasse it seems we are at eh

oh oops

wat do we hav her

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/sta...ess-index-2011

omg, well dun!

**** john fox sucks

I see CC is keeping up his flawless debate record

holmgren being near the bottom seems surprising. packers never seemed to play that conservatively

You have a feeling about how aggressive the Packers were 15 years ago?

the person i would like everyone to note on that list is MIKE TOMLIN. I've said it before but ill say it again, he gets credit for being aggressive bc he's young and black, but he is actually the 2nd most conservative coach only ahead of the freaking walrus!

gotta go with your gut

never really thought of mike tomlin as aggressive. may be pics of him hanging with ray lewis at a nightclub i don't know about tho.

pretty sure if i made the audacious claim that water was wet or the sky was blue he would clamor for a link with some sort of proof. id lean troll quite heavily at this point just bc i dont like thinking ppl are that dumb.

back when the steelers were a little fresher off their SBs tomlin would always get put on top 5 coaches lists and ppl would claim he was aggro

He's also probably the worst at using challenges in the league. Yes, worse than Marvin Lewis.

Belichick seems overrated. The gap between him and Payton or the Harbaughs (John>Jim), Pete or even a Coughlin isn't as huge as people make it out to be.