RE: Patrick Willis
I admit it might have been early but it was mainly about:

1. He is an absolute stud
2. I looked over my list of 4-3 MLBs and there really wasn't anyone I liked nearly as much. Although #3 on my list still hasn't been drafted...

I should clear up that I wasn't criticizing the Willis pick. I actually liked it a lot. Was just showing there's a precedent in this draft for players that don't have a lot of games, and that it shouldn't be a huge factor.

You simply get the player at any age you wish. You do not get 16 guaranteed games injury free, nor do you get 16 guaranteed games where you know he won't have outside distractions(baseball). For example, I've mentioned Steve Smith's two suspensions in real life and how hes more likely to be suspended than other players in our league.

Actually I was replying to capone0. As for players who haven't played much, I think Assani has the QB with the least experience Although I also like that pick.

As for Bo, I don't think you should have to worry about him skipping games to go play baseball. You shouldn't get to consider him better or anything though because he is "concentrating on football."

Buckley = Pass interference FTL imo.

When I said focusing on football, I specifically meant playing 16 games. Not like playing better or something, because I agree that's pretty stupid.

Again, this is a football draft and we're drafting them specifically as football players. Since we don't have a salary cap or anything, I suppose I could just pay Bo a billion dollars. He would probably play 16 games for me then. I just think saying this opens up a huge can of worms.

Bo for 10-11 games is still pretty damn good though, so if everyone agrees that's the case I'll just take another running back later.

16 games for now, 11 if anyone ever starts a MLB one of these

you really think Haynesworth>Seymour?

Depending on what type of defense someone runs, I'd definitely say Haynesworth > Seymour.

I was absolutly shocked when everyone knew Bo was the best avaliable RB left (and possibly best RB in the entire draft) when he was outed in the early 4th round that like 5 RB's got taken before him and he lasted til the early 7th, which was hilariously bad.

I'd say Bo was the best pick in the draft but with so many RB's I really can't. He is the first RB taken that I thought was good value tho.

well im playing Seymour as a DE in the 43, so its hard to compare them

huh? Haynesworth is def better than Seymour and imo it's not that close

Pick makes no sense to me. There are tons of much better CBs.

im not going to get into this again, but yes right now haynesworth is better, but @ there peaks, im not so sure. but w.e

yeah, I think Seymour is great and all, but Haynesworth is a game-changer in a way Seymour never was

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this is exactly how I feel, 100%

Boy you guys are really overrating Bo Jackson. The guy never played a full season in the NFL. The most games he played in a season was 11. He never rushed for over 1000 yards and never scored more than 5 touchdowns in a season. He was officially listed as a fullback while Marcus Allen was the halfback of the team. He had absolutely no hands out of the backfield and is by all reasonable standards the most overrated running back in modern football history. Just because the guy was big and fast does not mean he would become a great NFL player. Justin Gatlin was a world-class Olympian, but couldn't even come close to being drafted, let alone making a football team. Being a good athlete does not necessarily mean that you are a great football player and I think people here fail to make that distinction with Bo Jackson.

a lot of the things Haynesworth does well are noticeable and in-your-face, so when he makes a game changing play, you know about it

a lot of the things Seymour did well in his prime were under the radar, so when he changed a game, it was often in a way that did not get a lot of attention

i'm probably biased, but I think a lot of people underestimate the various ways Richard Seymour affected a game

I was considering Bo for my last pick...but taking a RB even now doesn't make sense to me just yet. At least for my team. Though Bo would have been the greatest offensive weapon ever if he had my offensive line.

Are you seriously comparing Bo Jackson playing football to a sprinter playing football? If you watch any clips of him it's obvious that along with the physical gifts, he had great vision. I don't see how anyone can say he wasn't a great NFL player when he has the highest yards per carry of any running back in the modern era.

A ton of the things you say about not having 1000 yards or touchdowns etc mostly had to do with the Raiders not playing him enough. Again, 5.4 yards per carry for a career is just ridiculous. Even many of his peers said he could have had the all-time rushing record if he hadn't been playing baseball and hadn't gotten injured. To compare him to Justin Gatlin is just absurd.

At least it looks like I've made the most polarizing pick in the draft. I can see some argument for other running backs over him, but to say he wasn't a great football player is ridiculous imo.

bo jackson won the heisman and was completely dominant

In 1983, as a sophomore, Jackson rushed for 1,213 yards on 158 carries, for an average of 7.7 yards per carry, which was the 2nd best single-season average in SEC history (min. 100 rushes). In the 1983 Auburn-Alabama game, Jackson rushed for 256 yards on 20 rushes (12.8 yards per carry), which at the time was the sixth-most rushing yards gained in a game in SEC history and the 2nd best yard-per-rush average in a game (min. 20 attempts) in SEC history. Auburn finished the season by winning the Sugar Bowl, where Jackson was named Most Valuable Player. In 1984, Jackson's junior year (most of which Jackson missed due to injury), he earned Most Valuable Player honors at Liberty Bowl.[4]

In 1985, Jackson rushed for 1,786 yards, which was the second best single-season performance in SEC history That year, he averaged 6.4 yards per rush, which at the time was the best single-season average in SEC history. For his performance in 1985, Jackson was awarded the Heisman Trophy in what was considered the closest margin of victory ever in the history of the award, winning over University of Iowa Quarterback Chuck Long.[3]

Jackson's football number 34 was officially retired at Auburn in a halftime ceremony on October 31, 1992. His is one of only three numbers retired at Auburn, the others being 1971 Heisman Trophy winner Pat Sullivan's number 7, and Sullivan's teammate and favorite receiver, Terry Beasley (88). In 2007, Jackson was ranked #8 on ESPN's Top 25 Players In College Football History list.

The Los Angeles Raiders selected Jackson in the 7th round with the 183rd overall pick.[6] Raiders owner Al Davis supported Jackson and his baseball career and got Jackson to sign a contract by offering him a salary that was comparable to a full-time starting running back but allowing Jackson to only play part-time until the baseball season was done.

Joining the Raiders midway through the 1987 season, Jackson rushed for 554 yards on 81 carries in just seven games. Over the next three seasons, Bo Jackson would rush for 2,228 more yards and 12 touchdowns: a remarkable achievement, in light of the fact that he was a "second string".

Jackson turned in a 221-yard rushing performance on Monday Night Football in 1987 against the Seattle Seahawks. During this game, he ran over Seahawks linebacker Brian Bosworth, who had insulted Jackson and promised in a media event before the game to contain Jackson. He also made a 91-yard run to the outside, untouched down the sideline. He continued sprinting until finally slowing down as he passed through the entrance to the field tunnel to the dressing rooms with teammates soon following. Jackson scored two rushing touchdowns and one receiving touchdown in the game.

In his four seasons in the NFL, Jackson rushed for 2,782 yards and 16 touchdowns with an average yards per carry of 5.4. He also caught 40 passes for 352 yards and two touchdowns. Jackson's 221 yards on November 30, 1987, just 29 days after his first NFL carry, is still a Monday Night Football record.

Thank you.

I seriously thought I was going crazy because I think the Bo Jackson pick is pretty bad at this point. I just don't see how you can argue that he's a #1 RB much less the top RB in this league when he never ran the ball 200 times in an NFL season. Hell, he never ran the ball 175 times in a season and only once ran over 150 times in a season. Sure, he averaged a lot of yards per carry but a.) he only played in his prime and b.) he never got the ball that often. Much more impressive to average 5.0 ypc as Barry Sanders did in his career with 2500 more carries compared to Bo's 5.4 ypc.

I didn't want to get into any big arguments in this draft but I really think Bo is being tremendously overrated.

uh no, u are really underrating him. The reason he never played a full season in the NFL was because he was playing baseball and the Raideds allowed him to play baseball until the end of baseball season, then he would start playing football with the team.

Bringing up never rushed for 1000 yards means nothing, the dude was a part time back even when he was playing. Marcus Allen, a HOF on that team had much worse yards per carry than Jackson. That just shows u how dominate Jackson was. Marcus Allen was starting because Jackson was playing football and Al Davis promised Jackson he could play baseball first before football.

And lol at comparing Jackson to Gatlin. Jackson was a great athlete yes, but he was a great football player as well. And if Jackson didn't play baseball, and played football and didn't have his career cut short by injury, he probably would have gone down as the best RB in the history of the NFL.

He ran a 40 yard dash in 4.1 seconds, and weighed like 225 pounds. He was a nightmare.

People are forgetting that Bo was a workhorse in college. He could have easily carried 20-25 times a game if the Raiders had given him the ball and didn't have Marcus Allen. Obviously he didn't get a ton of carries, but that doesn't mean he can't do it.

You say he only played in his prime, I say he missed at least 3 years of what should have been his prime playing baseball. It's possible that his numbers could have been even better if he had signed with the Bucs out of college.

Saying he's a bad pick at this point when people considered Curtis Martin and Brian Westbrook good picks, well I just don't get it. I was expecting some people to not like the pick, but to seriously say he wasn't a good football player really surprises me.