his peak was so long ago tho, like 8 years? and hes primarily a pass rusher

17 sacks in a season by a DT is pretty impressive.

Also, I just noticed that I mentioned by name a then undrafted player in the writeup for my first pick and I don't think anyone said anything about it

Yeah Assani, just what the **** man?

+1

fml laroi

isn't it obvious?

no, no it isn't.

IMO, skill positions are being heavily overvalued.

Over the course of 20+ years, there are so many top wide receivers available to pick from that you can get an outstanding one even in the later rounds. They may not be good as the ones picked up to now over their career, but many will be available that had great seasons if only for a year or two. Since we're only drafting a player over an individual year rather than a career, I think there's a whole lot of great wideouts that can be found in the late rounds.

A similar issue applies to running backs. Running backs are merely a product of their offensive line. If those five guys suck, then it really doesn't matter how good you are. If they're great, they can make even a marginal running back look like a Pro Bowler.

There are so many QBs available and only 32 need to be picked. I bet if I were to lock up a QB with my last pick, he would have been better value there than in the earlier rounds. Really, it's best to load up defensive players and offensive lineman. With the exception of a few really elite players, skill positions just don't have the same value in this draft as they would in a fantasy draft.

i had Troy Pol, as my 3rd overall best player available, nice pick

I have a list of 3 players now. If they all get taken I will head explode.

It's also really hard to tell if a non-skill position player just blew up for one season or a couple of seasons unless he was recognized especially with guys who played from 1985-1990, while it's much easier to tell if a skill position player blew up during that time frame. Also the statistics for those periods aren't as available as they are now.

looking at the holt write-up, i see how much i've underrated him, i really thought he was only like 27 and hadn't put up as good numbers as listed, mainly because i was too busy jaw-dropping at the warner/faulk/undrafted WR triplets

fwiw I pmed biiiigchips last night when he was viewing this forum and told him macguy would have his pick up early tomorrow and that he was picking right after him (biiiigchips didn't respond to my pm).

I've tried to be very fast with picks but the way this draft is starting to go I plan on taking a good amount of more time to either entertain trades/decide who i'm going to pick and i'm not going to feel guilty about it one bit

So, some people said my pick of Freeney was a reach late in the second round, and that there were better DE's, but since then the picks have been Neil Smith, Peppers, Haley, and Kearse, were any of those guys at their peaks better than Freeney was? Or as good?

u forgot about Manley

But yea I think all of those u mentioned are better than Freeney although some not by much.

I like all my picks so far, but if my guy can last a few more spots I think I'm about to make my first great pick of the draft.

That'll show em

With Lewis in the middle I think it would be better to take a space eater than a speed rusher. Lewis will be roaming the field and be excellent in coverage and tackling, I think Haynesworth, Kevin Williams or a bigger DE would have been better than an undersized speed rusher like Freeney.

Dear god, I think PFR is down! ((

I think people need to chill out a bit! When we did the premiership draft it was common for one pick out of every few to take a few minutes. Yes, it would be nice if everyone had extensive boards mapped out; were living in the threads; and picked instantly while providing awesomely detailed write ups and defenses of their picks.

But it's the real world and people have busy lives or don't work with a computer all day. We'll get there in the end - it's been fun so far and I'm sure it will continue to be. Take it easy folks!!

You made me nervous. Its ok on my end.

Aren't Williams and Haynesworth DTs?

yeah back up for me too sorry for the scare!

Glad I'm not the only one almost completely relying on PFR at this point.

I said space eaters. Your building around Lewis right. Then you pick a 1-D edge rusher whose only job is to get the QB. I guess that makes some sense, but the the big problem being around Freeney is he's horrible at 1 of the 2 aspects DEs are supposed to be inherently good at. Stopping the run and getting to the QB. I also don't think Freeney is that much better than a lot of the DEs taken right now or even the next couple of rounds. I also don't want to defend my Howie pick, he's HOF but I think it's a bad pick looking how things went in the draft, DE is way too deep. I just liked that he was good at both the run and the pass and he was doubled all the time. If I had to pick it again I probally would have went Roaf or Brooks, both positions which lack some depth.

To expand on the Champ discussion and those really insane numbers.

I don't know if you caught Monday Night Countdown but he's had 13 balls his way is all this year.