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01-15-2010 , 06:43 PM

#1426

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Originally Posted by mkind0516

McNeil is a sick value in round 3, as I think he's comparable to a lot of the LT's who went in round 2. I was considering grabbing him if he made it to my pick and moving him to RT just for the sake of the value of the pick.

I don't know if the, what, 11th LT selected is sick value in the 3rd round.

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01-15-2010 , 06:44 PM

#1427

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Logan Mankins

Sort by PFF strategy indicates that he's one of best guards in the NFL, and is especially beastly at run blocking. He's also pretty young for a guard, so should help anchor my line for awhile. The Patriots have cobbled together quality running games with numerous crappy undrafted RBs in recent years, and I feel like having a sick o-line will help my offense compete against those with the elite QBs. He and Roos = bulldozing on the left side.

Team so far:
LT Michael Roos
LG Logan Mankins

DT Haloti Ngata

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01-15-2010 , 06:57 PM

#1428

mkind0516

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Originally Posted by capone0

I don't know if the, what, 11th LT selected is sick value in the 3rd round.

Considering he could've easily been picked in round 2, and would've never made it to him in round 4, it's definitely a great value.

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01-15-2010 , 06:58 PM

#1429

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gogogogog team nutwiper!

btw i think im willing to take ur phone # and text you when its your pick, and maybe anyone else as well, or via aim if that is preferred

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01-15-2010 , 07:00 PM

#1430

Etats360

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Can I give you my home address so you can come and wake me up if I'm sleeping during my turn

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01-15-2010 , 07:11 PM

#1431

SMIGLET

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sure, ill need a key to your house though.

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01-15-2010 , 07:21 PM

#1432

nath

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Don't change the actual picks made to other stuff! Christ.

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01-15-2010 , 07:28 PM

#1433

Needle77

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Thats the problem with PFF. Mankins should not be the first guard off the board. He's a no doubt a good player but I can name 3 guards off the top of my head that should go ahead of him.

Eh...he protects Brady and OL are OL I guess.

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01-15-2010 , 07:30 PM

#1434

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Figured I was falling into that trap, but I have no other way to evaluate guards. It's partially why I'm taking linemen early so at least I know I'm getting one that's good.

I think the Pats rushing attack with such mediocre RBs, especially in 2008, backs up PFF's assessment to an extent though.

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01-15-2010 , 07:34 PM

#1435

Needle77

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Dodge two more bullets pzl.

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01-15-2010 , 07:35 PM

#1436

SteelersDMW

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Yo Needle was McNeill one of the guys you were talking about?

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01-15-2010 , 07:36 PM

#1437

Etats360

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You just jinxed yourself Needle

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01-15-2010 , 07:37 PM

#1438

Needle77

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McNeil was not. But I rarely watch the Chargers play so I don't have much of an assessment on him. I've read over and over and been told that he is vastly overrated but again, his sack numbers are solid. I just don't know much on him.

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01-15-2010 , 07:38 PM

#1439

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You just jinxed yourself Needle

Probably. Especially because me and BoDoB are at a loss if our guy doesn't drop, lol.

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01-15-2010 , 07:39 PM

#1440

EPiPeN11

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Originally Posted by Needle77

Probably. Especially because me and BoDoB are at a loss if our guy doesn't drop, lol.

just take any OL who should go in the next 50 picks and argue how hes so good and was 1st round talent

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01-15-2010 , 07:39 PM

#1441

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Why isn't the amount of time an offensive lineman keep his block an available stat? Seems like the most obvious indicator of an O-lineman's pass blocking skills.

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01-15-2010 , 07:39 PM

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Probably. Especially because me and BoDoB are at a loss if our guy doesn't drop, lol.

No doubt. I've got another HS Basketball game to play at tonight. Yay Homecoming. Can you sense my excitement?

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01-15-2010 , 07:43 PM

#1443

Needle77

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just take any OL who should go in the next 50 picks and argue how hes so good and was 1st round talent

Mostly because that would be disingenuous and we all know I can't be that. But I will say this...whoever does end up with a certain player I will applaud them at the tremendous value.

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Why isn't the amount of time an offensive lineman keep his block an available stat? Seems like the most obvious indicator of an O-lineman's pass blocking skills.

Because each play is a separate entity. 3/5 step drops vs 7 step drops, PA vs non-PA. The stat wouldn't be as telling as people believe.

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No doubt. I've got another HS Basketball game to play at tonight. Yay Homecoming. Can you sense my excitement?

I'm not leaving until tomorrow but I might be out later tonight for the night. Depends on how I feel.

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01-15-2010 , 07:46 PM

#1444

Needle77

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Should be team nutwiper. They picked fast last year.

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01-15-2010 , 07:48 PM

#1445

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Is a 3/5 step drop easier to defend for x seconds than a 7 step drop because the pass rusher has to take a wider angle to where the QB is standing?

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01-15-2010 , 07:55 PM

#1446

Needle77

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You can give up the outside in a 3/5 step drop yeah. Speed rushers are at a bit of disadvantage because the QB doesn't get as deep and speed rush is all about depth. I mean its a pretty complicated thing and hard to truly discuss in text but when you see Megatron running down the sideline for a 50 yard bomb, thats a 7 step drop, when you see the quick slant route its a 3 step drop.

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01-15-2010 , 08:55 PM

#1447

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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11

just take any OL who should go in the next 50 picks and argue how hes so good and was 1st round talent

schooling people on your hyperboles? what are you thinking?!?!?

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01-15-2010 , 09:10 PM

#1448

vixticator

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No way a player remotely as good as Jennings will be there at our next pick. And, hell, if one is I'm taking him. I think there are 2 other receivers who are close with Jennings that will go very soon. Jennings isn't as physical as most of the receivers drafted but he's a smaller dude. Anyways I expect him and Ryan to have a beautiful career with eachother..

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01-15-2010 , 09:12 PM

#1449

NameOnTheCake

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yeah but he was a total fantasy bust he must suck

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01-15-2010 , 09:17 PM

#1450

mkind0516

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I don't know what this says about me, but the guy I literally flipped a coin to not pick in round 2 is still available. This would be quite the coup if he fades 4 more picks.

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