so happy to see that megatron contract, should free up things for this year and keeps the best WR in the NFL in town.

6'5", 4.3, 40 inch vertical, ~130-140 IQ

lol so sick.

Megatron's young yet and looks insane, with all kinds of silly unfair measurables. Putting his production in context relative to other WRs over their 1st five seasons though, he's not unique. Stats are just stats but all told he's pretty comparable to Fitzgerald in that range, who had some good & bad Kurt Warner years and a whole bunch of clowns QB'ing his team. Way too early to start talking GOAT for CJ.

Moss… If Moss had this or that QB or some actual WIM then who knows. I'd rather give him his due based on what he actually did.

Jerry Rice though. Tell you about goddamn Jerry Rice. Rice was so good you could subtract his final 10 seasons (which includes his career year stat-wise) and he's still easily a HOF player. And that would short him almost 10,000 yards and 66 TDs, roughly comparable to Keyshawn Johnson's 11-year career production. People talk about how good his QBs were but then when we starting comparing Young or Montana to another QB it’s Jerry Rice’s name that comes up. Then he’s got another 29 games worth of playoffs where his production works out to the equivalent of pair of 1,200 yard/12 TD seasons if prorated to 32 games.

But **** the stats, all you had to do is watch him play and consistently devastate defenders year after year. He wasn’t a LeBron type like CJ or Moss where he outjumped or outran or outmuscled everybody. He did sometimes maybe but he was more like a Wayne Gretzky who just outskated everybody and killed you with technique. You count to four and he’s free of double coverage and open somewhere you didn’t want him. He was never all that fast or really anything you could point out as physically standout but that's what was so insidious about him.

I love Megatron, he's unbelievable, but I watch Moss highlights and he was just silly:

moss was just so ****ing amazing. i mean he made daunte ****ing culpepper a near-All-Pro QB. so frustrating that what he was was still an all-time great and he STILL managed to underperform

Nice, that's nice.

so... peyton hills cost himself $30M, $10M guaranteed by not signing last fall?

tough beat.

6:29 is my favorite Moss play ever I think, how he gets by that defender without getting pushed out of bounds is just ridiculous

GMing 101:
If you have elite+youngish in a category with not so many elites you extend and don't trade.

+Revis

(I'd take Calvin over any non-QB in a heartbeat though)

Man those highlights were sick. I was pretty young and not a huge nfl fan when he was in his prime so i hadnt seen a lot of that stuff. The amount of seperation he got on people, when it was obviously that he was just running in a straight line, is insane. Also his ability to get YAC was really great. Lastly, its not like he was just a straight line deep threat, he could also take a quick out to the house.
Ya, good comparison as a guy with all the physical talents, and still underachieved his potential I think is shaq.

Economically your logic is sound, but imo when considering top 3 players at a position, its still worth it assuming you don't overpay too much. You're sacrificing a massive edge vs. pretty much every team in the league for a more balanced team. Unless your team is otherwise bereft of talent, I don't think thats the right play

it's possible if he's an actual kicker, but still suspect. was going to say the opposite wrt the bolded. i've won, i'd say hustled, a # of bets having people attempt fgs


edit: +1 to rice being the goat wr


edit2: wrt calvin, had to be done, he's super-duper elite, etc. however, i can understand doing so reticently

7:36 IMO

That acceleration is not human

Pretty good QB protection if he can just toss the ball in the general direction of the WR for +yards.

i like the play at 7:00 the best, looks like theres no way in hell he can get separation, yet manages to get a 1/2-1 step by the end of the end zone.

"The Needle Deal"

I see this argument a lot (aimed at rules not general skills increase over time) but the other side is usually not mentioned. How do you think CJ would do if you put him on some Rice1-era team? I think there's a good argument that he'd dominate even more.

He can tripple jump though. Probably GOAT RB if you can get a steady supply of stars.

this is a funny joke...isn't this near genus level??

*genius...hahahahahaha

I looked it up. An IQ of 140, depending on which scale you use, would make you either a 1-in-161 or a 1-in-261 rarity.

IQ scores have a lot of problems. I can remember what I scored as a kid, and I'm just not that real-world smart. It just happened that I had a decent vocabulary and an eye for patterns and things the test was looking for. But we're talking about receivers and not analysts. Listen to Terrell Owens speak for 5 minutes or consider Randy Moss's Wonderlic and I think we can disregard those sorts of measurements for receivers, unless they're absolute morons who can't read a playbook.

I would have no issues tradin megatron if the team sucked but you can't sacrifice winning equity now for a more balanced team later. Ffs the dude was being guarded like a punt gunner on the goal line.

calvin johnson is really really smart.

i can understand why someone from pittsburgh would be unfamiliar with such as person because why would anyone intelligent choose to be there

always love it when a randy mix gets posted, followed by 10-20 people going "zomg wtf" like clockwork. so glad he's back

If you don't like Calvin Johnson, you don't get it.

Economically I don't think the logic is sound. You have a limited number of roster spaces/snaps that can be played on an NFL team. A simple WAR/Salary is not sufficient otherwise, to use an extreme example 30 WRs with 0.1 WAR = 1 WR with 3 WAR. The relationship between salary and war for an individual player should not be linear it should be geometric and elite talent should be paid more because they are scarce and because they use up less roster spots.